This makes you wonder How many illegals are using stolen identities out there.

Terps said:

It will be automated before you know it

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Fogdog said:

The typical farm labor family earns around $10,000 a year.

Estimates of the number of farmworkers employed in the United States vary. According to Robert Guenther, senior vice president for public policy for the United Fresh Produce Association, a produce industry trade group, it’s about 1.5 million to 2 million.

And the pay? Between $10 and $12 an hour, generally. Sometimes a bit more, sometimes less. But, because there isn’t year-round work, according to Salvador, “these families are earning $10,000 a year.”

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I suppose some, like @Terps and @Ripped Farmer want to punish people for being poor. $10,000 a year is well below poverty scale. From what I've seen, the poor in this country work much harder than the average wage earner. Up those wages to the median wages in this country, say, $35,000 and improve working conditions, throw in health care benefits and a pension for 20 years of service. You'll see people taking those jobs.

Nobody should work full time for less than a living wage.

Regarding cost:

A wage increase will mostly affect fruits and vegetables, because commodity crops — corn, soy, wheat, cotton, and others — are highly mechanized, so most of the work is done by machines. With produce, about a quarter of every dollar we spend at the supermarket goes to the farmer. A third of that quarter — about 8 cents of your produce dollar — goes to the farmworker.

8 cents goes to the worker picking produce. If workers were paid triple the current yearly wage, we'd pay 16 cents more than we currently do. At 50k per year per family, we'd pay 32 cents more for every dollar we currently pay. Produce is only a fraction of the total amount spent of food -- about $6,000 total amount for the average family, We aren't talking about a financial disaster to the nation if farm workers were paid a living wage. Yes, Americans would take those jobs.

Ripper would starve people to the point of taking what he'd offer. Republicans are just that way.

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Ripped Farmer said:

A living wage for one person, but what you liberals want is a living wage for that one person to afford nice toys and be able to squirt out 2.5 kids.

A living wage should be based on 50-60 hours a week for one person splitting the rent with another working person. You want to be able to afford your own place, kids, a nice car? Then be worth more than a burger flipper or a basic laborer that only requires a 3rd grade education. My children do all that stuff as chores, but omg lets pay some dude 50-60k a year for the same basic shit in the real world and cut him lose after a 8 hours of work with 1.5 hours of breaks mixed in.

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Ripped Farmer said:

A living wage for one person, but what you liberals want is a living wage for that one person to afford nice toys and be able to squirt out 2.5 kids.

A living wage should be based on 50-60 hours a week for one person splitting the rent with another working person. You want to be able to afford your own place, kids, a nice car? Then be worth more than a burger flipper or a basic laborer that only requires a 3rd grade education. My children do all that stuff as chores, but omg lets pay some dude 50-60k a year for the same basic shit in the real world and cut him lose after a 8 hours of work with 1.5 hours of breaks mixed in.

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Fogdog said:

The typical farm labor family earns around $10,000 a year.

Estimates of the number of farmworkers employed in the United States vary. According to Robert Guenther, senior vice president for public policy for the United Fresh Produce Association, a produce industry trade group, it’s about 1.5 million to 2 million.

And the pay? Between $10 and $12 an hour, generally. Sometimes a bit more, sometimes less. But, because there isn’t year-round work, according to Salvador, “these families are earning $10,000 a year.”

link to article is found in bold text.

I suppose some, like @Terps and @Ripped Farmer want to punish people for being poor. $10,000 a year is well below poverty scale. From what I've seen, the poor in this country work much harder than the average wage earner. Up those wages to the median wages in this country, say, $35,000 and improve working conditions, throw in health care benefits and a pension for 20 years of service. You'll see people taking those jobs.

Nobody should work full time for less than a living wage.

Regarding cost:

A wage increase will mostly affect fruits and vegetables, because commodity crops — corn, soy, wheat, cotton, and others — are highly mechanized, so most of the work is done by machines. With produce, about a quarter of every dollar we spend at the supermarket goes to the farmer. A third of that quarter — about 8 cents of your produce dollar — goes to the farmworker.

8 cents goes to the worker picking produce. If workers were paid triple the current yearly wage, we'd pay 16 cents more than we currently do. At 50k per year per family, we'd pay 32 cents more for every dollar we currently pay. Produce is only a fraction of the total amount spent of food -- about $6,000 total amount for the average family, We aren't talking about a financial disaster to the nation if farm workers were paid a living wage. Yes, Americans would take those jobs.

Ripper would starve people to the point of taking what he'd offer. Republicans are just that way.

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Ripped Farmer said:

A living wage for one person, but what you liberals want is a living wage for that one person to afford nice toys and be able to squirt out 2.5 kids.

A living wage should be based on 50-60 hours a week for one person splitting the rent with another working person. You want to be able to afford your own place, kids, a nice car? Then be worth more than a burger flipper or a basic laborer that only requires a 3rd grade education. My children do all that stuff as chores, but omg lets pay some dude 50-60k a year for the same basic shit in the real world and cut him lose after a 8 hours of work with 1.5 hours of breaks mixed in.

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choomer said:

Then why don't those immigrant laborers just stay at home where that $10,000/yr. sum is a princely yearly income?

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UncleBuck said:

Why don’t you turn yourself into the authorities for all your illegal crimes?

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choomer said:

Why don't you answer the question?
Is it beyond your mental capacity and you need to obfuscate that fact by conflating bogus arguments and name calling?

Only you can make you look more stupid than you presently are.
Only you.

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UncleBuck said:

How many years in prison do you think you would get for your federal felony crimes, illegal?
Your skinny stringbean ass would get raped so hard in prison. They would pull your girly hair as they ripped your nazi asshole in half

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choomer said:

I'll take it on faith since you have such a specific understanding of these things.

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UncleBuck said:

We’ve seen your picture, stringbean
Your girly ass would be traded in prison like no other
When you gonna turn yourself in, ya two faced bitch?

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choomer said:

Then why don't those immigrant laborers just stay at home where that $10,000/yr. sum is a princely yearly income?

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Fogdog said:

an INCEL like you will never know.

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SneekyNinja said:

You're an illegal...


Read about these dudes, had heard the term but didn't realise how sad those motherfuckers actually are

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srh88 said:

Would you rather pay a real living wage or higher taxes on health care and law enforcement. Communities with less work are more prone to crime. Who do you think ultimately pays unpaid health costs? A real living wage is cheaper in the long run

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