Thug pug genetics anyone?

I can’t speak to the growth characteristics but I’ve sampled quite a bit of peanut butter breath at this point and I can say the terps are all over the place. I got a couple packs of those and I’m anxious to try them but I know I’m gonna need some space because that’s gonna be a wide hunt.
 
stayatdefcon said:
Right on - been liking the results? It's been tough to find an LED that performs like HPS and doesn't give them that LED stress look.
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I think current LEDs outperform HPS tbh. I've had a small cob led tent for a few years now, and I made the switch with my main tent at end of last year. Plants look happier than ever and my yields are up. The only time I've seen any stress is from putting too much light in the small tent, but the dimmer fixes that.
 
Bubbles Depot said:
I think current LEDs outperform HPS tbh. I've had a small cob led tent for a few years now, and I made the switch with my main tent at end of last year. Plants look happier than ever and my yields are up. The only time I've seen any stress is from putting too much light in the small tent, but the dimmer fixes that.
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Yall ever run cmh?
Makes em piss crystals 20200701_135425.jpg

I personally think top notch led is the best tied with cmh (the new 1000w cmh gonna shit on everything)

Hps is cool and good yield but I can run a clone under 315cmh and one under my 600 hps and get a way better product under cmh. Strain and cut depending ofc
 
Bubbles Depot said:
What issues did you have in veg?
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I think it was more related to the soil I was using....Nectar nutes don't appear to play well at all with foxfarm oceanforest - soon as I switched back to Nectar #4 they went right back to being happy.

But from what I've read and been told - LEDs full white spectrum cause the plant to need more micronutrients than MH or HPS do, and I noticed my ladies were eeeeeating up the magnesium, I've since been adding in 2-3x the amount of magnesium that I ever have before and they're back to normal. So that's the only real difference I've noticed.

Since I flipped to bloom, they stopped showing the 'need' for anything.....just looks good all the time. Veg took a little more effort to keep them looking 100
 
Swarmxking said:
Yall ever run cmh?
Makes em piss crystals View attachment 4613400

I personally think top notch led is the best tied with cmh (the new 1000w cmh gonna shit on everything)

Hps is cool and good yield but I can run a clone under 315cmh and one under my 600 hps and get a way better product under cmh. Strain and cut depending ofc
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I was actually planning on switching to cmh for the resin and terps, when I stumbled on to the leds. Still planning to try cmh one day because of pictures like that!
 
Swarmxking said:
Yall ever run cmh?
Makes em piss crystals View attachment 4613400

I personally think top notch led is the best tied with cmh (the new 1000w cmh gonna shit on everything)

Hps is cool and good yield but I can run a clone under 315cmh and one under my 600 hps and get a way better product under cmh. Strain and cut depending ofc
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My issue with HPS is that I don't believe 600 to be 'enough' in general.

If you run a 1k HPS you get wayyyy more to your ladies than 600w.
But then I guess you'd be comparing the 1k HPS to a bigger CMH type (I don't know them but I recall some CMH 600 something).
 
Misterpfffff said:
I think it was more related to the soil I was using....Nectar nutes don't appear to play well at all with foxfarm oceanforest - soon as I switched back to Nectar #4 they went right back to being happy.

But from what I've read and been told - LEDs full white spectrum cause the plant to need more micronutrients than MH or HPS do, and I noticed my ladies were eeeeeating up the magnesium, I've since been adding in 2-3x the amount of magnesium that I ever have before and they're back to normal. So that's the only real difference I've noticed.

Since I flipped to bloom, they stopped showing the 'need' for anything.....just looks good all the time. Veg took a little more effort to keep them looking 100
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Ah ok, I use a living soil mix, so they must have been able to find everything they needed. I do find young plants can get stressed by the light intensity though, so i rarely run them above 50% for veg and they seem happier for it.
 
Misterpfffff said:
My issue with HPS is that I don't believe 600 to be 'enough' in general.

If you run a 1k HPS you get wayyyy more to your ladies than 600w.
But then I guess you'd be comparing the 1k HPS to a bigger CMH type (I don't know them but I recall some CMH 600 something).
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315, 630, 630 de, 945w are the cmh wattages. They also have ceramic hps in the 1000 water. Ive used a 315 and the whole spectrum is great they are best for supplement I found lacking in the power dept. Either mix cmh with hps but then you got crazy amounts of heat or mix with led strips and cobs.
 
nc208 said:
315, 630, 630 de, 945w are the cmh wattages. They also have ceramic hps in the 1000 water. Ive used a 315 and the whole spectrum is great they are best for supplement I found lacking in the power dept. Either mix cmh with hps but then you got crazy amounts of heat or mix with led strips and cobs.
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Yeah honestly I think my ideal setup would be cmh/led

I've been thinking about a 5x5 with 2x 315 cmh and 2x 240w long board quantum boards on the top.

This is a good pheno
But its grown inna 5x5 under 2x 315w cmh

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Misterpfffff said:
My issue with HPS is that I don't believe 600 to be 'enough' in general.

If you run a 1k HPS you get wayyyy more to your ladies than 600w.
But then I guess you'd be comparing the 1k HPS to a bigger CMH type (I don't know them but I recall some CMH 600 something).
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I run a 630 cmh in the middle of my room and love it. I have it mixed in with 4- 1000watter hps. Also people love regular 600w hps. They are awesome, less heat and you can get em closer to your plants and run more lights. 600w hps are great for people doing small grows also in a 3x3 or 4x4 grow tent.
 
Dividedsky said:
I run a 630 cmh in the middle of my room and love it. I have it mixed in with 4- 1000watter hps. Also people love regular 600w hps. They are awesome, less heat and you can get em closer to your plants and run more lights. 600w hps are great for people doing small grows also in a 3x3 or 4x4 grow tent.
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Right, I'm just thinking if someone is going to compare HPS vs CMH that they ought to compare to the industry standard of 1000W HPS not just a 600w - to the equivalent in CMH lighting.
 
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