Thug pug genetics anyone?

Couple of pbb@ around 23 days,sorry for the poor pics will get some better shots tomorrow, next round will be electric snowman,ob wan and death breath or dead bananas can’t decide lol
 

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Misterpfffff said:
Right, I'm just thinking if someone is going to compare HPS vs CMH that they ought to compare to the industry standard of 1000W HPS not just a 600w - to the equivalent in CMH lighting.
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I mean I'm not sure the 630w cmh is comparable to a 1000w hps. You see some people saying it can replace a 1000w hps but I'm not to sure about that claim. I have to run them by themselves. Cmh do grow some beautiful plants but I think a 1000hps will get better yields than a 630 cmh. Some people might not agree with this, but I'm not saying if a definitive. I just can't see 4- 630cmh outperforming 4-1000w hps. I am going to upgrade my lights soon to cut down on my electric consumption probably am going to switch over to cmh. Now if you bring into the factor double ended 1000 hps, forget about it-those de can outperform any lights. They just need the height to run em.
 
Swarmxking said:
Yall ever run cmh?
Makes em piss crystals View attachment 4613400

I personally think top notch led is the best tied with cmh (the new 1000w cmh gonna shit on everything)

Hps is cool and good yield but I can run a clone under 315cmh and one under my 600 hps and get a way better product under cmh. Strain and cut depending ofc
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Ya my plants seem happier under cmh, didn't know they are going to make a 1000w cmh, that's fucking awesome! One thing I notice is cmh cuts down the early yellowing that hps can sometimes cause, i actually rotate 1000w metal halide bulbs in my flower room(plants love it) I veg with t5s and my plants would be get a lil stressed going straight from being under t5s to getting slammed under 1000w hps. I tend to dial it down to 500w the first few days, then up to 750 for a few more, then crank it up to the full 1000w and off to the races. Seems to help the plants out. Cmh definitely produces some triched out plants, looks like i dumped some fishscale blow all over my plants!
 
Swarmxking said:
Yall ever run cmh?
Makes em piss crystals View attachment 4613400

I personally think top notch led is the best tied with cmh (the new 1000w cmh gonna shit on everything)

Hps is cool and good yield but I can run a clone under 315cmh and one under my 600 hps and get a way better product under cmh. Strain and cut depending ofc
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Also you are talking about the double ended 1000 w cmh right? Those are already available. They also have double ended 630 cmh that have been available for a while. Heard something about the high frequency ballast being a lil sketchy though.
 
Dividedsky said:
Timber leds looks good, seen some awesome runs with fluence
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Run timber now 400, ran the 315 cmh. It seem the cmh finishes faster, yields excellent too, but the timber led out does it. Both save on efficiency. Both good lights in my opinion. I also have a custom made cob led strips (240-410 watts) Like it too. I can run canopy little closer, and runs a little cooler. Yields very good too. Very efficient. Had success with all 3
 
Pig4buzz said:
Run timber now 400, ran the 315 cmh. It seem the cmh finishes faster, yields excellent too, but the timber led out does it. Both save on efficiency. Both good lights in my opinion. I also have a custom made cob led strips (240-410 watts) Like it too. I can run canopy little closer, and runs a little cooler. Yields very good too. Very efficient. Had success with all 3
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Ya I was checking out the timber redwood or the fattyvs, was going to run it in a 4x4 or 5x5 tent as an extra flower space. Haven't pulled the trigger because I heard there almost to powerful to flower with in tent and you can burn the plants especially if you have strains that have a good stretch. I have a mini split in the room I would have the tent though. Might just throw a 630 cmh in a 4x4 and call it a day.
 
Dividedsky said:
Ya I was checking out the timber redwood or the fattyvs, was going to run it in a 4x4 or 5x5 tent as an extra flower space. Haven't pulled the trigger because I heard there almost to powerful to flower with in tent and you can burn the plants especially if you have strains that have a good stretch. I have a mini split in the room I would have the tent though. Might just throw a 630 cmh in a 4x4 and call it a day.
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That’s where the dimmer comes in handy on those stretchers
 
I just found a 140 watt LED that is supposed to be a retrofit for a 1000 watt cmh.. it has the same ceramic screw in fixture as for a 1000 watt hps so I'm gonna pop that bitch in my 1000 watt hps &see if she'll roll. Anyone think that's a bad idea?
 
Dividedsky said:
Ya my plants seem happier under cmh, didn't know they are going to make a 1000w cmh, that's fucking awesome! One thing I notice is cmh cuts down the early yellowing that hps can sometimes cause, i actually rotate 1000w metal halide bulbs in my flower room(plants love it) I veg with t5s and my plants would be get a lil stressed going straight from being under t5s to getting slammed under 1000w hps. I tend to dial it down to 500w the first few days, then up to 750 for a few more, then crank it up to the full 1000w and off to the races. Seems to help the plants out. Cmh definitely produces some triched out plants, looks like i dumped some fishscale blow all over my plants!
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Thanks for sharing.

I veg under 240w meanwell/samsung led quantum board w dimmer and they dont get shocked out when i throw under cmh.

I've been thinking about t5 setup for veg for power savings.
 
Swarmxking said:
Thanks for sharing.

I veg under 240w meanwell/samsung led quantum board w dimmer and they dont get shocked out when i throw under cmh.

I've been thinking about t5 setup for veg for power savings.
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Most people run the 4' t5 bulbs which pull 54 watts each bulb. I runing at the moment 29 t5 bulbs which is 1566 watts. People tend to forget that to cover a good amount of area your going to have to use a decent amount of electricity even with t5s. That said I love t5s for veg. Love the coverage and how close I can get them to plants. I always get the best possible node structure when vegging with t5s.
 
Swarmxking said:
Thanks for sharing.

I veg under 240w meanwell/samsung led quantum board w dimmer and they dont get shocked out when i throw under cmh.

I've been thinking about t5 setup for veg for power savings.
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I run a 50 watt hlg light in a 3x3 and it's plenty for moms and little solo veggers. No heat and I leave it on 24/7. Really efficient
 
Dividedsky said:
Ya I was checking out the timber redwood or the fattyvs, was going to run it in a 4x4 or 5x5 tent as an extra flower space. Haven't pulled the trigger because I heard there almost to powerful to flower with in tent and you can burn the plants especially if you have strains that have a good stretch. I have a mini split in the room I would have the tent though. Might just throw a 630 cmh in a 4x4 and call it a day.
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Was just looking at this thread and saw this. The Timber Fatty VS is a powerful light, I run one in a 5x5 tent and it can easily put the hurt on the plants. I tend to run mine at about 80% with good results. I can't speak of the Redwood yet, I am currently setting up 2 4x4 tents and have 2 Redwoods on order being shipped next week. I will keep you informed if your interested.
 
I run two of the older timber 200 W bars in 3500k I believe. 3 years running with them and I love them for my little space. I run them through veg through flower on them. Divided, that picture of your lanky PBB looks a lot like one I grew and that plant finished relatively quick, around 65 days I believe. Minuscule yields on mine but it was also flowered at a small size and got over crowded by the other plants. Smell was off the charts, good luck
 
Flatrate said:
Was just looking at this thread and saw this. The Timber Fatty VS is a powerful light, I run one in a 5x5 tent and it can easily put the hurt on the plants. I tend to run mine at about 80% with good results. I can't speak of the Redwood yet, I am currently setting up 2 4x4 tents and have 2 Redwoods on order being shipped next week. I will keep you informed if your interested.
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Ya that what I thought, the fatty is way to powerful on full blast in a 5x5. I like how it has the middle panel of chips that the redwood doesn't have, just curios how are your yield pull and quality under the fatty?
 
Growitpondifarm said:
I run two of the older timber 200 W bars in 3500k I believe. 3 years running with them and I love them for my little space. I run them through veg through flower on them. Divided, that picture of your lanky PBB looks a lot like one I grew and that plant finished relatively quick, around 65 days I believe. Minuscule yields on mine but it was also flowered at a small size and got over crowded by the other plants. Smell was off the charts, good luck
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Ya she doesn't look to be a big yielder but who's know.... she starting to swell up..I've been keep my co2 levels near perfect which is having very positive results!
 
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