Thundercat's Groooooooow

Well I guess the studio is appointment only, so I emailed the guy, and left a message on his voicemail about some lessons. I guess he also rents torch time once you don't need instruction. Personally I hope to become great friends, and that he would let me buy a torch at set up at his studio. I'd love to not have to invest in a kiln right away, and not jack up my electric bill any higher then it is.... We'll see how it all goes, I might not even be any good at it .

Thundercat said:

Things are great raider! Plants look fantastic, they are really liking the flora nova so I may actually buy some a run it for a whole cycle. Life is good all around. I'm going today to look into a glass blowing class. I found out yesterday there is 1 local guy with a studio that teachs some lessons, and seems pretty cool from the videos I've seen. Thats something 'I've wanted to do for YEARS, so I'm pretty excited about it. I would love to get the basics from some classes, and then set up a little workshop in my garage in the spring.

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i used the flora nova bloom and grow for my first DWC project and it was pretty decent, plant never had a single issue PH was always right on. i have always wanted to try blowing glass myself, hope it all works out well for ya. get some pics of your first project up

Man Matt those pins are making me want to get some mushies going again so bad. I talked about it a few months back and never pulled the trigger. I might have to bring it back to the table....

Still no word back from the glass blower guy. He may just be busy with the holidays. I'll try to get ahold of him again this week if I still havn't heard back.

yeah i want to do a whole revamp of mysystem(s) soon. maybe tax season i will take a good week off work and mess with shit.

seriously contemplating going back to soil, it was a pain to water but it was worry free

You can always toy with different auto watering type setups for the soil, drippers or somthing. I'm always on the fence about this stuff. There are aspects of soil, and of hydro that I really like. I wish I could leave my house for more then 3 days without having to really worry. My flower room should be completely fine for 3-4 days with no attention, maybe even a couple days longer but I'm not trying to find out . My veg room with my clones and such sadly needs attention atleast every 2-3 days. I suppose if I put everything in larger containers/res it would help, but I'm not there atm.

Thundercat said:

Lol Jig that is great. I went to Corning glass up in NY when I was a kid, and have loved glass blowing ever since. I've wanted for years to try it, but have never had the right situation. Classes were never local, and I havn't known anyone that does it as a hobby. Making smoking pieces will be cool, but i'm equally excited about just learning the artisic stuff like marbles and encaseings and such.

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let me know when you start I'll buy a piece from you.

@ jig thanks for the detailed response I have a feeling I'm gonna be hittin you up about this once everything's up n running. Gonna start getting everything together for the build in a couple weeks then I need to poly the garage get my lights set back up and I should have a couple months to spare since I'm still on this testing bullshit so I'm not in a huge rush to get things Rollin just need a plan ATM I'll probably go with the DM line since your recomending it and I see. Your results so I wanna emulate something that works before I go tryin my own ideas

Thundercat said:

You can always toy with different auto watering type setups for the soil, drippers or somthing. I'm always on the fence about this stuff. There are aspects of soil, and of hydro that I really like. I wish I could leave my house for more then 3 days without having to really worry. My flower room should be completely fine for 3-4 days with no attention, maybe even a couple days longer but I'm not trying to find out . My veg room with my clones and such sadly needs attention atleast every 2-3 days. I suppose if I put everything in larger containers/res it would help, but I'm not there atm.

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My attraction to growing with Wicks (I use MicroFiber Cloth) was partly for extended away time. Lets Chat before you Re-Tool your Garden! A Soil SIP (Self Irrigated Planter) would work GREAT, with No moving Parts or Electricity required. It will also give you a Much better h2o/o2 profile for your root Zone by lowering the Perched Water Table BELOW the container, and the Benefit of a couple inches of Res to draw From, which could be tied to a Controller for Extended Periods of vacation.

WooHoo! Peace

TC! Bro, hows it going ?: Good I hope. Hadnt heard from you in awhile. lol Hope all is good your way. Holla sometime. Hope you & yours have a GREAT Christmas! Did 2 updates, would like it if you would check them out. Heres a few. View attachment 2932114View attachment 2932115View attachment 2932116

Hey guys things are going good today, about to go do some christmas shopping, and take the kiddo to see frozen. It should be a fun day.

Those plants are looking killer dank, the purple in the first is beautiful, and that last picture looks awesome, what plant is that?

Thats a mix. Silver Bullet, Purple Voodoo, and Sx1. Thanks bro. Have allot of others going now, including my new F1 crosses. Incredibly F'n Purple, Poppa Smurf, & Grand Berry Bomb, & K.A.S.I "which is my 1st cross containing all Kush/Afghan/Sativa/Indica..

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Hey guys things are going good today, about to go do some christmas shopping, and take the kiddo to see frozen. It should be a fun day.

Those plants are looking killer dank, the purple in the first is beautiful, and that last picture looks awesome, what plant is that?

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She looks real sexy, the PV always does too !

Thanks for checking them out as always.. Glad 2 see/hear everything's good your way.. Have a great Christmas if I don't get to talk to you b4 then bro..

Shopping went better then usual honestly. The kiddo was real good and actually listened for the most part . We got a couple things, but most of our gifts this year are going to consist of some homemade candy boxes. I told the wife all I want is my glass blowing lesson, and I messaged the guy on facebook today since he was posting as of yesterday. Maybe he's better at returning those then phone calls we'll see.

So I took down 2 Sinmints that were both pretty well done, and were very similar all together. I also took down both Tangerine powers as they looked pretty decent, and I couldn't hold out any longer ...but really they were done. One of them has a stronger sweeter smell, but both STINK of citrus, I love it. They were honestly a pleasure to trim. I think the less smelly might have yielded a little better, I'm guessing both to be about 14g once its dry, maybe a little less they weren't really big plants. Now that I know what to expect though, I will be cloneing both of the mothers I now have of these. The Sinmints turned out real nice, should be super dank. I get alot of the "bluepower smell" from them both, some lime, berry, and perhaps coffee in there. They also weren't huge, I'm guessing around 13-14g each. The nugs on all the plants were very dense and hard so I might get a surprise on the weights. I checked a jar of platinum delight the other day, that i expected to be about an oz, and it was over 1.5.

So now that I've rambled a little, how about some pics. Heres a few of the Sinmints.





Sinmint oil material


Heres a few of the tangerine power.





And some Tangerine power oil material. SinCity seeds one I believe 3rd place at one of the oil cups this summer with some tangerine power shatter. It looked beautiful, and after growing these I can only imagine how amazing it prolly tasted. I hope I can pull something off close .



Hope you guys enjoy, and are having a great day.

WooHoo! Now I have to go searching back to the Conversation we had on additives... I may need to Mimic YOU... thats some SERIOUS FROST!

If it was only One strain, looking so Good, I would credit Genetics.... BUT? DANG!

Peace

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Watching....
Learning.......
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Awe thanks guys. I really wish I could take more credit for it, but I just try to give the girls what they need. I've always had some frosty plants I think......... but these Sin City genetics have some serious frost in them!! These plants have had 2 different nute cycles, the first half of their life they were getting Gh maxi bloom mixed roughly to the lucas formula and a little protek at the first res fill to adjust the ph up a little. About 2-3 weeks ago I changed the res and started a flora nova cycle, and they've been on that since at 1.5ml/gl and seem. I'm excited to see how the clones I took of those plants do. I put the 3 sinmint clones into flower a few weeks back, and so they are gonna be getting the flora nova their whole cycle, which reminds me I have to go buy a bottle I used the rest of my freebie last night. I've thought about trying some other brands of nutes, but I'm gonna give the flora nova at least few more months cus so far I like it .

Thundercat said:

Shopping went better then usual honestly. The kiddo was real good and actually listened for the most part . We got a couple things, but most of our gifts this year are going to consist of some homemade candy boxes. I told the wife all I want is my glass blowing lesson, and I messaged the guy on facebook today since he was posting as of yesterday. Maybe he's better at returning those then phone calls we'll see.

So I took down 2 Sinmints that were both pretty well done, and were very similar all together. I also took down both Tangerine powers as they looked pretty decent, and I couldn't hold out any longer ...but really they were done. One of them has a stronger sweeter smell, but both STINK of citrus, I love it. They were honestly a pleasure to trim. I think the less smelly might have yielded a little better, I'm guessing both to be about 14g once its dry, maybe a little less they weren't really big plants. Now that I know what to expect though, I will be cloneing both of the mothers I now have of these. The Sinmints turned out real nice, should be super dank. I get alot of the "bluepower smell" from them both, some lime, berry, and perhaps coffee in there. They also weren't huge, I'm guessing around 13-14g each. The nugs on all the plants were very dense and hard so I might get a surprise on the weights. I checked a jar of platinum delight the other day, that i expected to be about an oz, and it was over 1.5.

So now that I've rambled a little, how about some pics. Heres a few of the Sinmints.

Sinmint oil material

Heres a few of the tangerine power.

And some Tangerine power oil material. SinCity seeds one I believe 3rd place at one of the oil cups this summer with some tangerine power shatter. It looked beautiful, and after growing these I can only imagine how amazing it prolly tasted. I hope I can pull something off close .

Hope you guys enjoy, and are having a great day.

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that is serious dank.great job as always TC.looks like a white Christmas at the T.C. house.

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You know you are liked when I'm willing to go through all the work to come up with these numbers. Glad you are back SFguy.

So, I picked a random website that had all the DM gear on it for pricing. They seems a little higher than other places, but had a good selection. You could probably knock a dollar or two off if you search. But this gives a baseline. DM has a few different base nutrient lines. They have the Advance (old stuff), Gold (new stuff) and One which is all in one, no A+B. I leave out the One, and chose Advance because it's cheaper and what I use most of the time. I suggest using at least their Silica and Zone. They have a potasium booster for flower I like to use... and another product called Add 2.7... seems like snake oil to me... but I've used it and liked the results. Never done a side by side... so really not sure if it's worth the extra money. Probably not.

I did the math for a 10 gallon rez, for 8 weeks of flower. Changing the rez once per week. The 2 prices reflect using 1L bottles of the additives vs 5L bottles. Using the 5L is cheaper.

Using DM Advance Flower A+B, Silica, and Zone = $18 or $16

Adding Potash+ = $24 or $18

Adding Add 2.7 along with Potash+ = $45 or $35

You can save quite a bit buying in bulk... and that Add 2.7 really bumps up the price per crop. I use the $24 line up with the 1L bottles.

If you want to run a 100 gallon... multiply everything by 10. Anything from $160 - $350. (as you would be using the 5L and not spending the extra on 1L)

Hope that helps.

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I have used dutch masters before.The add 2.7 is needed in the formula.I had good results with dutch masters gold.Some what more production than other nute brands but was lacking in as much resin production as other nute brands.Zone is my favorite product of theirs ,keeps the res clean ,keeps from having salt build up.It will however kill all bacteria good or bad in the grow.No need in using expensive mycos.

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Man raider I've got all kinds of strains going atm, somewhere around 10 different ones. The ones I just popped were some Truepower OG, Nightmare OG, and some Dinafem White Widow.

Things are going real well man. I havn't had a real lot to say lately. Trying to figure a few things out in life...either my wife has to get a job, or I have to get back to work. My disability is up in February, and I don't want it to come down to the last minute. Really I need to help the wife find a job as I'm not supposed to be doing anything with my wrist still. I go see the Dr. for that in another week or 2 for another MRI so we'll see how that goes and what he's got to say.

I'm almost out of the bag of maxi bloom I bought, and I think I'm gonna try this floranova sample the guy at the shop gave me. The maxi granulars seemed to work well enough for me. The last couple harvests were nice and frosty, and everything progressed as expected. Really I think no matter if its the GH 3 part, the flora nova, or the maxi series since I've been running it basically all in a lucas formula it should all perform about the same. I'm not likely gonna buy any more maxi though unless I'm in need of super budget nutes. I really didn't like mixing the granulars. It seemed like unless I used warm water to disolve them first that they never fully disolved for me. I'm not sure what my next nute purchase is gonna be, however my local shop recently got in the AN conniseur PH perfect, and I really think I might try it. I'm gonna call AN and explain how I run things in a perpetual manner, and see what they have to say regarding a regimine. I can say 100% I will not be running a bunch of other add-ons, I intend to keep it as simple as possible and in the end if that means not using AN then I won't try it.

I'm about to go plant those seedlings, and harvest a few plants. I'll catch you guys later on.

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The AN guy will try and sell you the whole line up.SOME of their products are worth the extra money.There new line up for PH perfect still needs ph ajusted.At least the way i run it.I do not use a full AN line up.
Some of there products more than pay for them selfs in increased productivity and quality.
Ive heard some bad things about there connie so i have shy away from it.Ive used the sensi two part and the iguana juice and have had nothing but really good results out of it.
I use the sensi two part right now.
The new PH perfect system drops these products from the old nute formula.It drops cal mag. humic and fulvic acids,sea weed juice,It adds nirvana that takes the place of these products.
If you go to DAN www.discountAN.com or you can call 1 866 405 GROW. This company sells anything you want at a great price and free shipping over 150 dollars spent.Also all kinds of free samples if you purchase AN from them.But you can get DM . GH. anything you want from them.AT a great price..shows up to your door nice and easy peasy.
They have some really good growing advice from their reps at DAN also.They are the ones who turned me onto zone.They really dont care about pushing any specific brand they can sell you anything it is nothing to them.I like that over ANs reps who try and sell you only what they got.They told me at DAN that only two company's have their shit straight for growing with.AN and DM.I was growing with H2O2 before the zone.
I don't want to get into a huge argument over who's line up is the best or anything..this is just what THEY said..and THEY KNOW.They will sell you whatever you want.You can take their advice and throw it in the trash if you want.They will only give advice if you ask for it though.
IMO . Ive used lucas formula before.It grows a plant OK. But if you use it you are losing production.The formula will grow a plant well but not to the best of its ability.
I personally am not looking to grow a plant well..I'm looking to grow it to the best of its ability.
I think if i would have to leave my plants for a few days at a time unattended i would be growing passive hydro and in huge containers small numbers of plants,Because i wouldnt be worried about pumps failing or clogging id love to use the iguana juice ..The weed turns out outstanding on it.
A question for you TC..what is your humidity levels in your grow?

As always thanks for the compliments guys.

Max I appreciate the link, and the input. I've considered AN for a long time, and just have never pulled the trigger. One thing I like about this new grow shop I'm using is they are a AN rep, but he honestly seems to like GH products alot more. So he is glad to help me out with AN questions when I ask, but has never tried to sell me on them. I like buying local or semi-local when possible, and I don't order anything to my location. When I get things like beans I have a address I can use for them, but I don't wanna be ordering gear to that place either.

To be completely honest I couldn't tell you the humidity at any given point. In the summer I know it gets higher then I want some times, and that is seems pretty good in the winter. In the summer I run a dehumidifer to help with that. Eventually I'll have a nice climate controlled room, but its been a one step at a time kinda thing. This past summer was the first time in 4 years that I used a dehumidifier.

Now a ?? for you max, do you see something in my grow that makes you wonder about my humidity? I'm always looking to improve things when possible so if something stands out please don't hesitate.