Thundercat's Groooooooow

Ya I've got one of those green soil moisture/ph/light testers from lowes. I just havn't tryed it cus I didn't think the moisture was the issue. I havn't been down to see them yet today, I'll post again after i do so I can let ya know how they look. I wish the soil ph part of that tester worked better. I'd like to know what its at. Everytime I've watered the ph has been around 6.3-6.5, so I'm hoping its around that in the soil too.

Thundercat said:

Ya I've got one of those green soil moisture/ph/light testers from lowes. I just havn't tryed it cus I didn't think the moisture was the issue. I havn't been down to see them yet today, I'll post again after i do so I can let ya know how they look. I wish the soil ph part of that tester worked better. I'd like to know what its at. Everytime I've watered the ph has been around 6.3-6.5, so I'm hoping its around that in the soil too.

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Check the pH from water, what drains away from pot. If fluctation is big, than some flush and less nutes would be great.

I did that when they were in the 2 liters, just havn't been able to yet with the grow bags. Then I checked it with the 2 liters, the water that came out was only .1 or .2 higher then the water I was using. I've also been using very low nute levels, and have only fed them like 2-3 times. Some of them still look like they want more N, but most are lookin good.

Well I think it was just some shock from the transplant. The ones that were droopy are all perking up nicely, and the ones I transplanted more recently are a bit droopy now. I still havn't watered yet, is it better to water at night, or in the morning? I'll either be doing it tonight, or in the morning. The 2 clones I took are both still looking great, nice and healthy, and I've got a few more clones I'm gonna take in the next couple days. I'm glad to say they are all looking good and happy!

Thundercat said:

Well I think it was just some shock from the transplant. The ones that were droopy are all perking up nicely, and the ones I transplanted more recently are a bit droopy now. I still havn't watered yet, is it better to water at night, or in the morning? I'll either be doing it tonight, or in the morning. The 2 clones I took are both still looking great, nice and healthy, and I've got a few more clones I'm gonna take in the next couple days. I'm glad to say they are all looking good and happy!

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if its not an inconvenience, water in the morning, no need to raise the humidity at night unnescesarily. deffinitely go to Wally-World and get a small digital hi/lo thermometer/hygrometer (humidity) for about 7 dollars. those damn meters from home depot are about worthless. the light reader is nice. and the moisture meter is good, though a single probe unit is better. i've tried 3 different "Soil pH" meters, one even claimed to be 'electric'. They were all worthless. My liquid pH meter is the real deal. Those things let you know what ur putting into your soil. And then you can also test the run-off. So that's what i would splurge on if you don't have one.
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Well I just watered them this morning, and I'm real happy with how they look. The biggest purple power is really starting to grow nicely again after the transplant. Its branchs are out to the edges of the grow bag, and I'm gonna lst it down as soon as they start to turn upwards. All the center growth on it is starting to really shoot up too. I'm gonna be taking a clone from the top of that plant today. When I topped it originally, only 1 sprout started, and its been using alot of energy to grow it the last couple days, and thats not where I want it to focus it energy. I want all the little side shouts along those branchs to come up, and even out the canopy on that plant. Then hopefully I'll be getting a bunch of nice colas off each of those shoots. They will be getting the air pump tomorrow, so that should help them as well. I'll put some pics up prolly tomorrow or saturday.

I'm also gonna have some pics of the mushrooms. My south americans only produced one mushroom from the first flush, but the second flush isalready starting, and I didn't even have to recase it. I ate said mushroom the other night, it wieghed about 2.5-3g or would have if I had dried it. I like the SA, good visuals, came on kinda slow, butthats prolly cus I ate it fresh, and cus I had food in my stomach when I ate it. The KS tray I cased last week also started fruiting yesterday. They are going crazy like the KS seem to do. Looks like its gonna be another great flush from them.

Nice going TC, I'm watching

DaGambler said:

if its not an inconvenience, water in the morning, no need to raise the humidity at night unnescesarily. deffinitely go to Wally-World and get a small digital hi/lo thermometer/hygrometer (humidity) for about 7 dollars. those damn meters from home depot are about worthless. the light reader is nice. and the moisture meter is good, though a single probe unit is better. i've tried 3 different "Soil pH" meters, one even claimed to be 'electric'. They were all worthless. My liquid pH meter is the real deal. Those things let you know what ur putting into your soil. And then you can also test the run-off. So that's what i would splurge on if you don't have one.
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I have a liquid ph test kit, so I can make sure what I'm feeding them. I watered them each with a half gallon of water this time, and didn't have any run off. Next time I water them I'm gonna use a full gallon, and hopefully I'll get some run off to test. I agree that the green soil ph tester is about useless. I just got a ppm test pen, but I want a Hanna combo meter with ppm/ec/ph and temp. I just couldn't spring for it this time around. I'm gonna pick up one of those thermometer/hygrometers, just havn't yet. Thats what I have for my mushrooms.

And thanks for stoppin by unity, glad to have ya. How did the smoke turn out from your grow man?

Thundercat said:

Well I just watered them this morning, and I'm real happy with how they look.

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WOHOOO...

Anychance i could get a spore print off you?

Sorry man, can't take a risk like that. You can order them from sporevisions.com or spores101.com as long as you don't live in cali, georgia, or florida.

hey t-cat! hows it goin man! puttin the cabinet together tonight! time for stinky widow and a wicked ass cross from a friend...ill hit ya up when i get some pics posted in the new journal

Thundercat said:

Ya I've got one of those green soil moisture/ph/light testers from lowes. I just havn't tryed it cus I didn't think the moisture was the issue. I havn't been down to see them yet today, I'll post again after i do so I can let ya know how they look. I wish the soil ph part of that tester worked better. I'd like to know what its at. Everytime I've watered the ph has been around 6.3-6.5, so I'm hoping its around that in the soil too.

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Go ahead and throw that tester away. The soil testers absolutely suck balls and are wildly inaccurate! The liquid tester is much more reliable than a soil tester but your best bet is to invest the $100 or so and get a good digital tester. In the long run you end up saving alot of time that way, especially if you have alot of pots to test. Also, you never have to buy more ph strips. If I had to pay a penny for every time I have tested ph it probably would have cost me a grand by now but I'm very OCD about ph.

I'm gonna get the digital as soon as I can afford it. I'm trying to be as accurate as possible with it.

Thats sweet your gettin the cab together twisted, get me the link once you've got the pics up. My tent still doesn't have ends on it, and I still need to get my ventalation worked out. I gotta find sombody to cut a hole in one end of my hood for my 1000w so I can air cool it. It won't be purfect without a piece of glass, but it should bebetter then nothing. Right now I've justgot a fan blowing on it to keep it cool.

If your having problems with heat build-up you may want to try upgrading your hood to a Vertizontal. They are pretty pricey but well worth the money. It's 4ft wide and octagonal so you could probably fit all your plants under just one light. I use this model currently and I can fit 25 plants under it in 5 gallon pots. I've used a variety of hoods in the past and comparing the heat build up in the vertizontal vs the others is like comparing night and day. It is the only hood I have ever used that remained cool enough to handle even when left on for 24 hours a day. All I have ever had to use for ventilation is a single box fan! Also, if you haven't encapsulated your grow area in mylar yet it will be the biggest return for the smallest investment that you could possibly find. Having mylar around your growing area will significantly increase the amount of available light for your plants enabling you to grow more plants using less electricity.

Well I am making my current air cooled. And I'll be hooking the ducting up to both lights and then running the air pulled out of the tent through a carbon filter for odor control. If I were to grow in a larger room where I could just cool the ambient air, I would consider a hood like your talking about, but for now I am on a budget. As far as the mylar goes, I have made the tent out of panda film with the white facing in. This is providing decent light reflection for the time being. Again this grow is on a budget, and I've already gone over it, and still need things. Lol, I guess that's how it goes though.

that is how it goes

I just keep saying its an investment!!

Thundercat said:

I just keep saying its an investment!!

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no doubt, here's hoping.
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have u tried to make a cool tube? i got a pyrex cooking tube and a hurricane lamp and slid them over my bulb and put a fan to it and it kept it cool enough that you could lick the glass without gettin burned...not that i licked the glass...lol...but it works real well and only cost 20 bucks