Thundercat's Groooooooow

Well after reading that whole thread about the RO, thats definitely the way I wanna go, I just gotta go shopping now. I bought 10 gallons of distilled yesterday, and watered this morning. I used 1/2 open sesame with straight ph'd water on all the sativas, and I used 2 tsp/gal of growbig on the others. They all seem pretty happy. I havn't noticed much growth on several of the largest sativas in the last couple days. I noticed when I was watering that they have roots coming out the bottom of the grow bags already! I am thinking they might be a little root bound. I'm gonna see what happens after they have a chance to drink up this water. I may do a bag in bag transplant. I'll fill some of my other 5 gallon grow bags up half way, or maybe even 3/4, and then cut the bottom off the other and set it on top. I also put 17 of my clones into 18 oz cups today and put them under my floro light. They all had nice roots coming out of the plugs, so they should be good to go. Unfortunatly none ofthe WW clones have rooted yet, it was all sativas, but soon. I'll get more pics up this weekend once its been about a week, hopefully they will be gettin bigger again by then. Latta TC

i doubt they would be root bound .... the roots just tend to meet up at the bottom while the middle of the soil would look sparse

Thats what I was thinking, thats why I wanted to see what happens over the next couple days to see if they start growing better. I'm not sure why they've slowed down like this. It can't be from the light switch already can it? Still no signs of sex, but its only been 4 days so still pretty early for that I think. I hope they respond well to the distilled water, and open sesame!

woohoo, it also happens to be 420 right now!!

Whats up guys hows your day been. THings are well here. My girls are still looking happy so thats good. I just picked up 2 grams of some hash. We're getting ready to try that out gonna put a line in the center of this blunt. Its not real pure, its got a green color to it, but it looks like it will do the trick. I'll let ya know how it goes. Peace TC

hhaha i like the update tc. enjoy that blunt, kinda gives me an idea for some of this killer queen later

4 days later nice setup and healthy plants and ill stay tuned.

THanks little grower, the blunt was great, I'm pretty ripped. I'm gonna guess the hash came from a sativa, had kinda a fruity taste.

Thanks for stoppin by sacred, I'm hopin its gonna get real interesting soon, I'd like to see sex with in a weeks time. I'm really hoping! Gotta be patient, its gonna be hard.

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Lol, I'll be getting pics up either tonight or tomorrow not sure yet, still gotta get batteries.

Unfortunatly there still hasn't been much growth on either of the largest sativas, or the smallest. All the middle sized ones are growin well though!! I'm alittle bummed its been a week, and now signs of sex at all, but hopfully in the next few days. I'm not gonna havetime tomorrow, but maybe in the beginning of the week I'll be able to go get some more soil, and I'm gonna try giving the sativas some more soil. I'll fill up the bags prolly half way, and cut the bottom off the other bags, and set them inside the new ones. Seems like it should work pretty well. I don't know that they are root bound, but I thought maybe they wanted more space to grow. The ph was good the other day when I watered them, so that doesn't seem to be a problem. I'm going to water with some epsom salts next watering, and another does of open sesame.

I put another 10 clones into cups today, and they are under my floros as well. The WW clones I took were kinda small, but they rooted, so we'll see how they do. All the sativa clones look great. I also took 3 more larger WW clones today, 3 Kush clones, and 2 off one mango, and 1 off the other, so we'll see how all those turn out. If the WW clones root this week, I am prolly gonna throw them right into flower with the mother and just save the best clone as the new mother. Well any ways, I'll talk to you guys latta. TC

Damn dude that sounds like the description of the candy shop in my dream last night. Final chop with pic's..... check it

So I really am thinking the 2 plants that havn't really grown in the past week have got to be root bound. I'm gonna get the bag in bag transplant done, I got soil last night. THen I'm gonna water with ph'd distilled water and a teaspoon of epsom salts. I'm hoping they'll take back off and start flowering soon.

transplanting can ease off some problem conditions... but some people would say that there is no such thing as 'rootbound'... ie; you can grow a monsters scrogged bush in a 4" net pot... you just have closely watch pH and ppm and build-up, etc.

so it doesn't hurt to transplant, but ur gonna wanna figure out what stalled their growth exactly... or its likely to just happen again eventually in the bigger pot.
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I'm trying to figure that out. I'm still thinking the root of this problem goes back to the 400ppm tap water I was watering with for awhile. I'm only using distilled now, and I'm hoping after the transplant, and another good clean watering the 2 problem plants will pick back up. Should I run just some clean water through them, or do you think I should add the epsom salt to give them some mag?

I was checking in on them last night and I believe I was able to see the first signs of sex on 2-3 of the plants. I'm not gonna jump to any conclusions, but I do believe that my purple power plant #3 might be male. I hope not, but it might be. But that was a risk that has existed from the beginning when your working from seed. if it does end up being male, I'm gonna cut it back to almost nothing, and put it in my closet with my mushrooms under their 12/12 light. Once its ready maybe I'll have the pollen. Then again, maybe I'll just kill it.

OK so I was checkin out my clones today, and it seems like there are some gnats. Not a ton, but I'd like to get rid of them. Anything you guys recommend? Would safer soap spray work? Any good DIY ideas? I appreciate any help, I'd like to get rid of them before they get worse!!

if the roots are hitting fresh soil they shouldn't need anything but pure water for awhile... but a light rooting formula wouldn't hurt (something with idole butyric acid) or a light flowering formula 250 ppm'ish in RO.

as for gnats... i've tried the safer soap... and the neem oil... and some other product... and none of them took the population to zero like Malathion. you buy it at lowe's or home depot in concentrated form. it would say '50/50' malathion. mixed at 1 teaspoon per gallon of water in a drench watering for soil (making sure it wets the entire bottom of the container and all medium) or at the same ratio for a hydroponic reservoir. it kills both adults and larvae dead. but anytime you introduce new soil again... back they will come and i wouldn't use it past the halfway point of flowering 'cuz i don't know how long it takes to break down.
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Sweet man, I'll stop over at lowes and get some of that. The only plants that have the gnats are the clones in veg, so I'll give them a dose. Even if I have to do it again once they go into bigger containers, atleast it will stop them for now. Thanks man I appreciate all the help lately. The clones are in the same closet as my mushrooms, so I just don't want the gnats fucking them up!

I'm sad to say that after further inspection today, I believe I have three males. That isn't deffinite yet, but thats where I stand at the moment. My WW, and Kush are supposed to be feminized, so the only other variable is the mango, and the two plants that aren't growing much.

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Sweet man, I'll stop over at lowes and get some of that. The only plants that have the gnats are the clones in veg, so I'll give them a dose. Even if I have to do it again once they go into bigger containers, atleast it will stop them for now. Thanks man I appreciate all the help lately. The clones are in the same closet as my mushrooms, so I just don't want the gnats fucking them up!

I'm sad to say that after further inspection today, I believe I have three males. That isn't deffinite yet, but thats where I stand at the moment. My WW, and Kush are supposed to be feminized, so the only other variable is the mango, and the two plants that aren't growing much.

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sorry to hear about the males tc...looks like those which turn out to be fem will have alot of light and hopefully will be monsters!!!

I think if its just the 3 males I'll be ok, the others are pretty good size plants, and I'll still have 10 plants in 7 bags, plus a couple clones I'm gonna toss in for the hell of it.

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I think if its just the 3 males I'll be ok, the others are pretty good size plants, and I'll still have 10 plants in 7 bags, plus a couple clones I'm gonna toss in for the hell of it.

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da males might hurt this crop... but you only need one good female for the next crop i'm sure your first mushroom grow wasn't the best you ever had
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