Thwarting Dogs

As we all know that given enough time molecules detected by dogs can radiate out of a steel container so that you're toast. But that's because molecules permeate through materials.A Dewar flask with a small opening has virtually all air evacuated in a layer surrounding its surface so that no molecules will be able to travel the vacuum to outside air. There will be some leakage through the opening but a tightly sealed top covered by layers of aluminum foil and electrical tape would give you some time. For instance a flask four and a half inches wide by eighteen inches tall with a one inch opening has about a thousand cubic inches of volume inside and a surface of 500 square inches so that any leakage of molecules is .2 percent. So for instance 10 pounds of greenery would be effectively .02 pounds because of the reduced surface area. So if you like to drive around with ten pounds of pine needles it's like driving around with 9 grams of pine.For jokes I would wrap all pine needles in saran wrap and drop into flask not touching the opening or the pine. I would then put a few tablespoons of Indian white chili powder inside the top and seal. As anybody who has disturbed a container of white chili powder it is extremely potent more powerful than tear gas and any molecules that may escape would be displeasing to the nose. For added jokes one could place container in a wooded tube, filled with unscented melted wax, placed in freezer to chill, and the top sealed with epoxy. For added benefit the flask could be placed in dishwasher and because it's an extremely good insulator will not raise temperature inside although I would previously regrigerate my pine needles first. To clean the inside something like long soakings of acetone followed by mouthwash and then water to get all polar and nonpolar benefit.
 
I agree. It has nothing to do with growing but simply keeping smells at bay when a medical card holder moves for instance and needs their own special brand of medication when they get to their new place. But I would imagine that some would be interested in it.
 
It's funny. This guy is outraged my post was placed under the wrong heading or some b.s. When will this obsessive rain man desire for order end with these internet couch warriors. I always laugh at people like that because they just go away when you do.
 

dadio161

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lmao.
and your wonderfull thread just got soooo many responses.
People like you will just sober up and go away.
You come on here and jibber away and have nothing to offer.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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It's funny. This guy is outraged my post was placed under the wrong heading or some b.s. When will this obsessive rain man desire for order end with these internet couch warriors. I always laugh at people like that because they just go away when you do.
id say keeping smells at bay is entirely relevent to growing

STFU dadio169
 

growone

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i find the thread reasonable, and this is interesting, enough molecules can through steel to be dog detectable?
on the other hand, glass jars should be impervious to molecular transport, at least for the glass part
i had seen a method where the jars are immersed in a solution of bleach, all cannabis odor molecules are destroyed
lid area would be the trickier part
 

Samwell Seed Well

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i find the thread reasonable, and this is interesting, enough molecules can through steel to be dog detectable?
on the other hand, glass jars should be impervious to molecular transport, at least for the glass part
i had seen a method where the jars are immersed in a solution of bleach, all cannabis odor molecules are destroyed
lid area would be the trickier part
without an atmosphere or vacuum present elements are permeable( for the most part) enough to let small particles like terpines permeate
particles that effect the smell recepters are very very small

i wouldnt travel with a glass jar big enough to fit ten pounds . . .id be to afraid it would break
 

growone

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without an atmosphere or vacuum present all elements are permeable( for the most part) enough to let small particles like terpines permeate particles that effect the smell recepters are very very small
i suppose that is true to a point, but even molecular hydrogen, which is about the most permeable molecule there is, does not make much progress through glass
hydrogen does penetrate steel more easily, though easy is comparative
complicated topic to be sure
 

Samwell Seed Well

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id like to bury them on my property and store shit in them . . . dewar flask very cool

i have glass jars, they always break, and lids dont always seal after use adn wash then use then wash then use then wash .. .they get corroded/rusty
 

growone

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i know dogs are good, but airtight containers buried in the ground should be pretty safe
depends a lot on how large a stash and how determined the search is
 
I think that if you previously reefrigerate what you put in there and maybe put one of those plastic block of ice that you put in igloos that it would stay cold for a long time because I think the inner flask is coated in silver or some other highly reflective matterial and wouldn't have to worry about mold. Also to the other person it's the vacuum surrounding it that makes it's so if a molecule pops through the inner lining there's so little air in the vacuum area that a molecule will just float there because you need molecules to diffuse or bounce to the other side. I imagine a cartel could manufacture one with no opening.
 

growone

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i have a healthy respect for dogs and their abilities, but there comes a point where they are not the main risk
digging leaves its own trail, and LEO is good at finding buried stuff if they suspect there is buried stuff
 
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