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Oldguyrealy

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Been kicking around on Soil.

Asked my Son about Living Soil.

First off he had no idea what I was talking about. Then started putting me down about it.

Been using Happy Frog and did ok with it. Tried Sunshine 4 which was great during Hot weather but it cooled down found myself over watering.

So I thought Happy Frog. But the cost.So considering Living Soil.

My Son you have always had a great garden why are you listening to some on the internet?
 
Fangthane

Fangthane

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Lucky you. The closest nursery, 45 miles away, wanted $45 a bag for HF the last time I was there. Nowadays I usually pick it up on Amazon for $30ish a bag.
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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i dont know man get an ewc bin going you must have a ton of organic material to compost if you are eating vegetables and find some stinging nettles and borage etc throw that shit into the bin too. get a bokashi bin going as well.

i know it sounds like a ton of work but it really is not. once you set the ewc bin its almost on auto pilot. the microbial life and even small beneficial critters you get in an ewc bin is unreal. add that stuff to just some peat or coco add aeration and some food for the fungi like oats or barley and you should be ok. i havent paid for soil in years.
 
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ProPheT 216

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420 Garden said:
FFOF and layered organic feeds. Water only for the first 30 days. Then work with tea's and add more fox farm to the top surface.
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I still attest the most common issues addressed on this site are from loaded soils. It's hard to know when to add, plus what the plant needs is changing as it matures.

I think the best practice is a consistent watering of a ec the plant can easily handle. If you do that every 3 or 4 days in dwc or water your rockwool/coco 3 or 4 times a day they always have what they need right in front of them.
 
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Oldguyrealy

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crimsonecho said:
i dont know man get an ewc bin going you must have a ton of organic material to compost if you are eating vegetables and find some stinging nettles and borage etc throw that shit into the bin too. get a bokashi bin going as well.

i know it sounds like a ton of work but it really is not. once you set the ewc bin its almost on auto pilot. the microbial life and even small beneficial critters you get in an ewc bin is unreal. add that stuff to just some peat or coco add aeration and some food for the fungi like oats or barley and you should be ok. i havent paid for soil in years.
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I just really started Composting and have 4 Bins 3 of which have about a foot of pretty much compost.

I was going to turn the other day but my Son had my Spading Fork so I tried with a Spade. Got about half a bin done but found it too hard with just one Arm.

I have everything in it. Chicken Manuer, discarded soil, kitchen scraps, coffee grounds and just whatever but no meat.

I'm missing something you say you haven't bought soil. This is the part I'm missing what are you mixing with your compost?
 
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Oldguyrealy said:
I just really started Composting and have 4 Bins 3 of which have about a foot of pretty much compost.

I was going to turn the other day but my Son had my Spading Fork so I tried with a Spade. Got about half a bin done but found it too hard with just one Arm.

I have everything in it. Chicken Manuer, discarded soil, kitchen scraps, coffee grounds and just whatever but no meat.

I'm missing something you say you haven't bought soil. This is the part I'm missing what are you mixing with your compost?
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At the end of the grow, you can mix your compost into your spent soil instead of buying fresh soil or specialized amendments for your soil
 
MissinThe90’sStrains

MissinThe90’sStrains

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I started “making” soil and will probably never turn back to the expensive bagged stuff. Shopping around, I was able to find most of the needed bulk amendments for $1-$3 a pound online. If you avoid the “popular brands” and avoid ordering from build-a-soil, it’s cheap. I keep bulk bags of peat, vermiculite, and perlite around to lighten whatever cheap soil/compost I can find and it’s worked pretty well for me on a budget. Add some worm castings and good to go.
 
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LewberDewber852

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ProPheT 216 said:
I still attest the most common issues addressed on this site are from loaded soils. It's hard to know when to add, plus what the plant needs is changing as it matures.

I think the best practice is a consistent watering of a ec the plant can easily handle. If you do that every 3 or 4 days in dwc or water your rockwool/coco 3 or 4 times a day they always have what they need right in front of them.
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Prolly what his son is telling him!
I like soil and haven’t run DWC/ or coco but have seen plenty of my buddies run it a love it.
I personally just find soil growth neat and it’s symbiotic relationship with the plant.
 
LewberDewber852

LewberDewber852

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Oldguyrealy said:
Been kicking around on Soil.

Asked my Son about Living Soil.

First off he had no idea what I was talking about. Then started putting me down about it.

Been using Happy Frog and did ok with it. Tried Sunshine 4 which was great during Hot weather but it cooled down found myself over watering.

So I thought Happy Frog. But the cost. So considering Living Soil.

My Son you have always had a great garden why are you listening to some on the internet?
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Do whatever you want to do and will have most fun with. Once growing becomes a chore you probably will lose interest and results may vary.
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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Oldguyrealy said:
I just really started Composting and have 4 Bins 3 of which have about a foot of pretty much compost.

I was going to turn the other day but my Son had my Spading Fork so I tried with a Spade. Got about half a bin done but found it too hard with just one Arm.

I have everything in it. Chicken Manuer, discarded soil, kitchen scraps, coffee grounds and just whatever but no meat.

I'm missing something you say you haven't bought soil. This is the part I'm missing what are you mixing with your compost?
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if i see the soil is mostly decomposed i add fresh coco bricks but it takes time to get to that point

other than that just aeration basically (pumice, lava stones, clay pebbles whatever i have around) and some fresh organic material like bran, oats, dry pulverized cannabis leaves etc.

if i have it around i charge some spent activated carbon from my filters with some fish hydrolysate and add that too.
 
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Oldguyrealy

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LewberDewber852 said:
Do whatever you want to do and will have most fun with. Once growing becomes a chore you probably will lose interest and results may vary.
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I really think my Son has lost interest. He use to be there everyday looking at the grows now good to get him to help, my wife helps me even though I know she has no interest.

Me I can no longer drive, go hunting, fishing, cut back on my eating and no sex. What else have I?
 
420 Garden

420 Garden

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Brother, it is the time of year that many slip into depression. It is easy to let that enter into one's life. Stay strong. Talk to others, love one's in your life that make a difference. Emphasize on small things that give you happiness. Don't ever let a day go by that you don't give thanks. Try to avoid watching television news. (They spin news how they want people to view it). Instead read a news paper. That way you learn about what you are interested in, not what media wants you to see. Example: over the weekend in my bathroom I knocked a coffee cup off my sink. Broke and coffee everywhere. Took 2 hours to clean on a Sunday. Now there was a time that I would of let that ruin my entire day. I said to myself " if thats the worst thing that happens to me today, I got it made). You got this my friend.
 
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Oldguyrealy

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420 Garden said:
Brother, it is the time of year that many slip into depression. It is easy to let that enter into one's life. Stay strong. Talk to others, love one's in your life that make a difference. Emphasize on small things that give you happiness. Don't ever let a day go by that you don't give thanks. Try to avoid watching television news. (They spin news how they want people to view it). Instead read a news paper. That way you learn about what you are interested in, not what media wants you to see. Example: over the weekend in my bathroom I knocked a coffee cup off my sink. Broke and coffee everywhere. Took 2 hours to clean on a Sunday. Now there was a time that I would of let that ruin my entire day. I said to myself " if thats the worst thing that happens to me today, I got it made). You got this my friend.
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Oh I always look to my Savior.

Some might say I'm a Bible Thumper but I started focusing on what is in Heaven.

After 5 years a Guest of the state I reconsider the way my life was going.
 
cannabiscrusader

cannabiscrusader

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Old guy really
When I die, I will join my creator

eatyoterps
There is no creator, the creator is nothing

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Where do I go then?

Eyt
To nothing

Ogr
You say the creator is nothing, so I return to my creator.

Ashes to ashes dust to dust, if it wasn't for my asshole my belly would bust. Believe what you want, in the end we all return to the dirt. Our soul, that's another story. Some people are so enlightened by knowledge they ignore the inherent natural connection of the body to nature.
 
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