To Flush or Not to Flush

McFonz said:

1. I've used the 2\3 days of darkness method. No bud rot.
Just my venting and no light.
You can analyze it as much as you want, it still worked for me.

2. I've harvested my biobizz fed babies without a flush and you could destinctively smell \ taste it.
I even got someone to tell its biobizz without knowing anything about it.

3. my mumbo jumbo doesn't envolve spending a nickel.


I rarely visit Tel Aviv. There are a lot of things there, I just can't stand this city so I evoid getting there.
There is mollasses to be found but I haven't found anything is the "resonable" range.

In Tel Aviv its usually more of a polution wave rather than a breeze blowing in your face.
There's a place in Givataim (1km from Tel Aviv) where's the planitarium is that you can see at certain times a purple aura of polution above Tel Aviv.

And the people there are total dush-bags.

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Yeah well ill stick with the scientifically proven stuff instead of the "it works for me, so ill ignore what the scientific community have known for 150 years" mumbo jumbo. In my climate your bud wouldn't last a day once the temp's dip & whats the point of having your flower room lights off for 3 days, restricting what you can put in it?! ...also i have never ever heard of bud smelling & tasting like the nutrient you are feeding it with! And i've been at this for me than a handfull of grows!rofl!

Just out of curiosity, what was your feeding doses for the Biobizz per litre ?

Sad to hear that Tel Aviv has gone to the dog's. Was once a real nice place to visit.

speeka said:

Yeah well ill stick with the scientifically proven stuff instead of the "it works for me, so ill ignore what the scientific community have known for 150 years" mumbo jumbo. In my climate your bud wouldn't last a day once the temp's dip & whats the point of having your flower room lights off for 3 days, restricting what you can put in it?! ...also i have never ever heard of bud smelling & tasting like the nutrient you are feeding it with! And i've been at this for me than a handfull of grows!rofl!

Just out of curiosity, what was your feeding doses for the Biobizz per litre ?

Sad to hear that Tel Aviv has gone to the dog's. Was once a real nice place to visit.

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There are no scientific facts. Thoes 'facts' always change for some reason.
It might be a 'fact', but for me it works better than the other method so why not?

I don't know any reason lack of light would create mold. when you dry your herb you do it in a dark place, right? (i don't but whatever)
that should decrease the chances of rot, said by some people with 'scientific facts'.

If you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I've been using hard feeding of up to 12ml\L of BioBloom.

Tel Aviv been that way for the last decade.
I used to live close to Tel Aviv and never liked it.
There are lots of speciality shops, music shows etc. in there. In kind of "the heart of Israel" but it all packed in a tiny place filled with polution and people live in a bubble that Tel Aviv is the only place worth living. they rarely find a reason to leave Tel Aviv.
As the real estate priced went totaly crazy (1000 bucks per month for a 2 bedroom apartment in the yard of some synagog considered a great find) people with too much month and too much atitude came and became the majority.

i use these fer my supplement feedings. they have all kinds a lil goodies to help.

madcaps123 said:

So about 90% of the things I read say that for the last two weeks you should give your plant nothing but water. During this time the fan leaves will turn yellow and fall off.....

But every now and then I come across someone that swears by nutes till the end.

I understand there will be a difference in flavor, but what other differences are there, does giving nutes till the end increase yield?

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Bro, I'd leech them. I leech always. If your feeding properly its not starving your plant. Your plant should have enough food in the soil by the last 2 weeks of flower to make it to the end on just water. You wanna get all that nasty shit outta there to optimize the taste. I know I dont want no chemical tasting bud and if your using organics still flush, Who wants to smoke bud that tastes like fish waste or guano. Even though the nutrients are used mostly in the nitrogen cycle, I wouldnt risk sacrificing taste for yield.

McFonz said:

There are no scientific facts. Thoes 'facts' always change for some reason.
It might be a 'fact', but for me it works better than the other method so why not?

I don't know any reason lack of light would create mold. when you dry your herb you do it in a dark place, right? (i don't but whatever)
that should decrease the chances of rot, said by some people with 'scientific facts'.



I've been using hard feeding of up to 12ml\L of BioBloom.

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No they dont.. science is science & the results have been the same for atleast 150 years.

The IACR Rothampstead research station has had an ongoing experiment running continuously for over a 150 years.
Using a field that has never had any fertiliser added to it. It has had a crop after crop of wheat taken off it from the start. They measure how much nutrient the crop takes out every year. They have sumps that collect the water that percolates through the top soil to ground water to check nutrient leaching. The average rain fall has been round 612 ml a year. The nutrient reserves in the top 22cm of soil are still around 2520 kilos of phosphorus and 7017 kilos of potash per hectare.
The IACR soil research team are going to be really sad to hear every thing they have found to date has been totally wrong & all they had to do is come to Weed forum to find out the truth.
So are all the horticultural science and advisory institutions world wide. As they all use the IACR data as the primary source to calculate nearly every thing to do with soil science relating to nutrient retention and leaching in the temperate zone.

http://www.rothamsted.ac.uk/

The nutrient reserve levels haven't changed in 150 years( to a field that has never been fertilized) because...


You can not flush chemicals out of plants.

Neither can you flush the nutrients from the compost.

You can dilute an excess of chemical salt held by the compost if you over fertilise as long as you run lots of water through the compost before it gets locked into it.

You not knowing something is not the same as it not existing, your flower room will have a higher relative humidity without any lights on to warm the air. Colder air will cause higher RH. More science.

12ml per litre of Biobizz bloom?!?!?! no wonder your bud tasted of biobizz, did you foilar feed too?Without a doubt you are feeding incorrectly. The highest ive ever heard the bloom used is 3-4 ml /L , used at the peak of flower. Dude, i would do a lot more reading.(Not just in cannabis cultivation forums)

I'm not here to justify myself.
I don't know much about wheat.

I know what I got from trying out methods.

The BioBizz bottle says 5ml\L. I used more as the plant recieved it well.
The round that tasted like BioBizz was given ferts exactly by the BioBizz chart.

I wasn't foliar feeding except this time around. And never after week 3 of flowering.


I'm not the arguing type, so you can continue your rumbling with someone else.

I always flush 9 days before harvest so I have a cleaner burning, smoother smoke.
I have some "the Church" in bloom and 3 other strains )not important) anyways I had to move them to a safe house for 24 hrs and had to cut the light after 5 hrs of 12/on and once returned home they missed the first 5.5 hrs of light, but I noticed right away how the buds on the church where just nubs when they went to the safehouse and into a dark room, then when I brought them home and turned on the light that is when I saw those nubs looking like BUDS. They had grown in the dark atleast 1/4 inch.
Experiments will be done at harvest time. I plan on going dark for 4 days before harvest.

Don't let your leaves die. If you can achieve that with flushing then go ahead but it's not necessary. However, flushing to the point of killing your leaves makes no sense at all. Photosynthesis does not occur within a yellow leaf and certainly not within a dead one that has fallen off. It is maximizing this photosynthetic process that should be our real goal as growers. Eliminating leaves does the opposite of that. Just don't starve your plants.

McFonz said:

I'm not here to justify myself.
I don't know much about wheat.

I know what I got from trying out methods.

The BioBizz bottle says 5ml\L. I used more as the plant recieved it well.
The round that tasted like BioBizz was given ferts exactly by the BioBizz chart.

I wasn't foliar feeding except this time around. And never after week 3 of flowering.


I'm not the arguing type, so you can continue your rumbling with someone else.

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Well this wasn't about your ego, it was about Novices spreading myth's as fact's when science clearly says the opposite, you want to continue talking rubbish as if its facts go ahead...most would be happy to have learned something new. Not stick their head in the sand.
wheat or weed the results are going to be the same but i'll let your Bio bizz comments speak for the validity of your method's.
If you flush or not is your business, but whether it actually works the way you think it does is another thing entirely.