To pray or not to pray?

thumper60

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ChronicWonders. said:
When did you start that elephant ear? I always transplant mine and I’m gonna start them, dahlias, canna and coleus this year indoors before moving them out...

Sorry off topic lol.
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tell ya one thing dahlias Hate to be transplanted,just plant in ground when its warm
 
3rd Monkey

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thumper60 said:
zinnias easy,how do u keep the root ball intact on dahlias its just a bunch of potatos iam talking the dinner plate dahlias.View attachment 4296565
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I start them in coco in the cheap 1 gallon black pots. Cut 4 slits down the sides so they fold down and put the tubers in the ground. Transplant done.

Makes it much easier to bring them back in over the winter too. Coco just falls off.
 
ChronicWonders.

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thumper60 said:
tell ya one thing dahlias Hate to be transplanted,just plant in ground when its warm
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I transplant them every year. My oma has typically started them late March and then I’ll take them and keep them on the south side of the house until around Memorial Day before planting them. I plant all the soil with them to try and not disturb them as much as possible. I get award winning blooms, but don’t have the desire to mess with umbrellas and such around here anymore.
 
thumper60

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3rd Monkey said:
I start them in coco in the cheap 1 gallon black pots. Cut 4 slits down the sides so they fold down and put the tubers in the ground. Transplant done.

Makes it much easier to bring them back in over the winter too. Coco just falls off.
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one of my tubers wont even fit in a 1 gal pot,i just don't see a need to rush them early I like to plant a few every week right thur june-early jul still blooming in sept.do u grow the dinner plates?
 
3rd Monkey

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thumper60 said:
one of my tubers wont even fit in a 1 gal pot,i just don't see a need to rush them early I like to plant a few every week right thur june-early jul still blooming in sept.do u grow the dinner plates?
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Yea, Babylon or something. Saved them from my moms, now the kids won't let me stop lol. I don't care much for flowers but I like my honey, so it is what it is.

I do the 12"x12" black pots. My tubers are usually only around 2 hands full. I thought they were big lol.
 
ISK

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I'm growing two Green Crack gals, exact same conditions but yet one is praying like crazy (mostly the upper leaves) and her sister is normal.

As to why only one is praying is beyond me, but they are both equally healthy....go figure

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Thundercat

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ISK said:
I'm growing two Green Crack gals, exact same conditions but yet one is praying like crazy (mostly the upper leaves) and her sister is normal.

As to why only one is praying is beyond me, but they are both equally healthy....go figure

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Are they clones? I would guess they could be slightly different phenotypes if not, and are just reacting a little different to the environment.
 
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Thundercat said:
Are they clones? I would guess they could be slightly different phenotypes if not, and are just reacting a little different to the environment.
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They are not clones but came from the same seed package, so I would agree that the phenotypes are likely different
 
Aussieaceae

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I've always found a praying plant is a healthy one. Indoor or outdoor.

I'd be wondering what's up if they weren't tbh.

Don't see leaves praying as a bad thing at all. Generally a sign of good health.
 
Thundercat

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ISK said:
They are not clones but came from the same seed package, so I would agree that the phenotypes are likely different
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Yep I'm sure its just a slight pheno difference. It should be interesting to see if they have any other differences, like smell or flavor since the growth seems pretty similar so far.
 
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Yep I'm sure its just a slight pheno difference. It should be interesting to see if they have any other differences, like smell or flavor since the growth seems pretty similar so far.
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The one that is praying is taller and thinner, the normal one is shorter and fatter but she sits on books to give her the same distance to the light
 
chick3n2011

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Am I the only one who thinks that leaves 'praying' is simply the plant adjusting the angle of its leaves to increase reception to light, therefore absorption? Almost anything a plant does that's automatic is for its benefit and is the result of many generations of evolution.
 
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chick3n2011 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that leaves 'praying' is simply the plant adjusting the angle of its leaves to increase reception to light, therefore absorption? Almost anything a plant does that's automatic is for its benefit and is the result of many generations of evolution.
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I think it's adjusting for sure, but not necessarily for light reception in all cases.

Example. Outdoors, the plant is stationary. The earth rotates, changing angles of light that hits the plant. In my garden specifically, the sun will never touch the backside of the plant, yet the petioles will be firm and the leaves at attention... In the shade.

They aren't adjusting for light reception, but transpiration since the front is taking in all the energy, yet the whole plant breathes.
 
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