Topdawg Genetics

THT said:
@crisnpropa, here are a couple pics of the faster flowering uptown expression. Flash on and flash off - shitty phone camera - ill get some shots of the better expression eventually

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that looks plenty good... like I said, mine were the original, and were super airy/fluffy- maybe because it had more influence from the a5? anyway, I was doubting the quality and hype of the whole thing, the whole time it was growing and drying, but when I finally got to smoke it, the high was right on... I grew 5 top dollar sativas this year, and the uptown brown appeared to be the worst, but easily had the strongest and "craziest" kind of high... looks really aren't everything, but even still, yours looks pretty killer to me. better than mine ever did.
 
I do believe some breeders are asking too much for their beans but I also understand their side of the situation also. Tell me this, when it comes down to a whole crop from that pack of seeds, say 3lbs. Is 3 lbs of Chem flame worth a extra $100 over 3 lbs of good stuff? Not even a question in my eyes. Especially since that’s for me and my patients!
 
THT said:
Great post. of all the names I heard it called, haze was the most common, 2002 - 2006 was prime time for me, we would pay 90$ for an eighth that weighed less than 3 grams usually. crazy expensive but the shit was so much better than anything else. still searching for the expression that will match it.
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It was after the towers came down: I had just graduated highschool a few months prior, and was always on the lookout for dank bud. A friend of mine from middle school who was into beats production and amatuer rapping put me onto my first taste of the purple haze, that piff. (If I can remember correctly, highschool was a bit of a blur).
He had moved and was living across the river, and through this network of local rappers and producers I made other piff connections. The prime piff was in such demand, that is cost 20 or 25 dollars for a .8 or .9 of a gram in 'Crime-bridge' area, eventually commanding $30 for a less than a gram. Guys were making a killing off this. Because of my heavy habit I smartened it out and would cop 1 or 2 zones at a time. My guy(s) would call me from nyc saying they were coming into town with that piff, and essentially an auction or bidding war would ensue. Over the years different batches and crosses of so called piff haze would be distributed, and it got to the point where if you wanted the real piff, you had to make sure that is was 'official.' At some point, sour diesel took over the market and official piff became harder and harder to attain. My producer friend ended up moving to manhattan to pursue his career.
Anyways, a poster in this forum or another mentioned that the piff is nl5xhaze, which I have heard before in the past and I consider could be conceivably true.
Now that I think of it, I still have these guys contact info..maybe I should make an inquiry..
 
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crisnpropa said:
piff is nl5xhaze, which I have heard before in the past and I consider could be conceivably true.
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Having completed multiple runs with several different Nevilles hazes, Northern light #5's and even a few different runs of NL5/Haze, I can say definitively they are not the same. Maybe not even related. The only similarities are in some of the incense and woody type smells
 
THT said:
Having completed multiple runs with several different Nevilles hazes, Northern light #5's and even a few different runs of NL5/Haze, I can say definitively they are not the same. Maybe not even related. The only similarities are in some of the incense and woody type smells
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alright, no argument here.
 
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crisnpropa said:
Now that I think of it, I still have these guys contact info..maybe I should make an inquiry..
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if you know someone who knows, you should absolutely ask. people have been guessing forever on what the real thing is- some say Cuban black haze, some say nl/haze, some say not either- some say it is some accidental unknown X like diesel was... one person on a different forum claimed to be in with the guys who had it, and said he knew what it was, but would never tell anyone- the only thing he said, was that it was much simpler and more obvious than people were making it out to be. I think he did say that it had no chems in it too... who knows, he might have been full of shit, but who knows... One thing though, is that Uptown Brown is likely close, but not quite the real thing either, as I doubt anyone was using mango A5 in their stuff back then... but the mom might be the real thing... I think JJ needs to be more open about his sources...
 
THT said:
Having completed multiple runs with several different Nevilles hazes, Northern light #5's and even a few different runs of NL5/Haze, I can say definitively they are not the same. Maybe not even related. The only similarities are in some of the incense and woody type smells
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So have you noticed any influence from the mango haze side??
 
crisnpropa said:
Noticing that Katsu has a bandaid haze x bubba. I'm tempted. I just really miss the piff, the one that put some pep in my step. Anybody have any experience with Katsu gear?
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I have Katsu's Bubba Sis and it's great. My next will be his Bandaid Haze and his Sour Bubba. He said the Sour Bubba is the strongest he's ever smoked. He's a good guy and I'm sure you'll like his stuff.
 
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