Transplanted and now they look sick

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Cookiezealous

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Sergeant420 said:
Looking good . Did you know that over feeding a seedling can create mutants I believe look at what I did to a banana seed from my own plants this is peanut butter the banana incase you don’t know came from self pollenated plant so I plants 4 seeds an fed as seedling a strong feed only to stunt an I believe create a genetic mutation. Have a look at it so I never topped it but looks like I did I wired it apart due to being close up on its self .certain strains dislike feeding as seedling
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I had no clue
 
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Look 100 times better. They should be normal in a week. Going to give them 4 weeks in veg once they are healthy and flip it. The runtz mint X strawberries and cream is strong . Its not pretty, but one good rip and I’m happy and I use hash all the time.
 

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Cookiezealous said:
Look 100 times better. They should be normal in a week. Going to give them 4 weeks in veg once they are healthy and flip it. The runtz mint X strawberries and cream is strong . Its not pretty, but one good rip and I’m happy and I use hash all the time.
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They just sad you where not around to pamper them lol
 
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madvillian420 said:
pretty sure people referring to soil being "too hot" they dont mean the literal temperature. Its a reference to all the raw unprocessed nutrients and fertilizers that would "burn" a young plant by being too powerful. Maybe the temps would actually rise a bit like a compost pile does but i dont think thats whats actually killing plants. OP is using Buildasoil 3.0, a ready to use bagged soil that has in theory already been "cooked"

My humidity is same as yours OP, dont go crazy chasing your tail trying to raise it. You can grow perfectly healthy crops as is.
Ive had plenty of plants that looked like this at one point, they almost always bounced back.

Youre doing organics now, embracing the use of worm castings and various teas and amendments is gonna be super beneficial in avoiding sad plants in the future. The problem with waiting until issues arise to topdress is that most dry amendments take some time to break down and become bioavailable.
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No, he's right. The microbial activity, during the decomposition process, raises the soil temp. You ever see a compost pile steaming on a chilly morning? Shit gets pretty hot. Lol
 
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No, he's right. The microbial activity, during the decomposition process, raises the soil temp. You ever see a compost pile steaming on a chilly morning? Shit gets pretty hot. Lol
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I already referenced a compost pile in the post you quoted.

Sure soil thats "hot" is literally warmer than normal and i suppose could nuke young roots, however is it just a coincidence that the measured PPM of these "hot" soils is usually off the charts? Which would also quickly kill a young plant. So i guess its a matter of what kills it first lol
 
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madvillian420 said:
I already referenced a compost pile in the post you quoted.

Sure soil thats "hot" is literally warmer than normal and i suppose could nuke young roots, however is it just a coincidence that the measured PPM of these "hot" soils is usually off the charts? Which would also quickly kill a young plant. So i guess its a matter of what kills it first lol
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Agreed.
 
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madvillian420 said:
I already referenced a compost pile in the post you quoted.

Sure soil thats "hot" is literally warmer than normal and i suppose could nuke young roots, however is it just a coincidence that the measured PPM of these "hot" soils is usually off the charts? Which would also quickly kill a young plant. So i guess its a matter of what kills it first lol
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Every time I’ve taken a clone and put it directly into build a soil it’s cooked in less than a day.
It’s crazy, it looks like… It looks like you burned it, ……..it just turns into dust. But as far as super soil goes it’s got a lot more going on than big rootz. Big rootz is amazing but it’s really hard to get most of the time. It the quality is always perfect. Sometimes build a soil will be very dry and hydrophobic. I’m pretty happy with both of them though. I use baby big rootz for cutting because it’s really weak. Once I moved to Colorado, I started running into all these random problems. I think the biggest thing was that it’s a completely different environment than what I’m used to, had to get used to all of it. I’ve always had to battle heat, I’ve never had a problem with cold. The air is also super dry out here and everyone’s growing style is a lot different. It’s kind of cool, it’s almost like different growing cultures.
 
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Cookiezealous said:
Every time I’ve taken a clone and put it directly into build a soil it’s cooked in less than a day.
It’s crazy, it looks like… It looks like you burned it, ……..it just turns into dust. But as far as super soil goes it’s got a lot more going on than big rootz. Big rootz is amazing but it’s really hard to get most of the time. It the quality is always perfect. Sometimes build a soil will be very dry and hydrophobic. I’m pretty happy with both of them though. I use baby big rootz for cutting because it’s really weak. Once I moved to Colorado, I started running into all these random problems. I think the biggest thing was that it’s a completely different environment than what I’m used to, had to get used to all of it. I’ve always had to battle heat, I’ve never had a problem with cold. The air is also super dry out here and everyone’s growing style is a lot different. It’s kind of cool, it’s almost like different growing cultures.
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ive only done young 1gal plants transplanted into build a soil, and they flourished. They were in Ocean forest before that. Never used big rootz. We have this stuff in the midwest called Indicanja locally that seems okay but i saw someone post a soil analysis of it here and it was on the weaker side for a ~$35 bag of dirt.
 
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madvillian420 said:
ive only done young 1gal plants transplanted into build a soil, and they flourished. They were in Ocean forest before that. Never used big rootz. WE have this stuff called Indicanja locally that seems okay but i saw someone post a soil analysis of it here and it was on the weaker side for a ~$35 bag of dirt.
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Idk why honestly people make extra expense an pay so much for shit all around us an can be made better to suite you or strains more yourself. I won’t pay that money for soil Ive grown outdoors alot younger there was areas we loved fir the soil an to me that’s what you need is a good soil made up yourself you know what’s in it what ph is how well it drains all you. To me it’s part of it all I’ll buy a good clean potting mix add what I like I think it’s only wise to use sterile soil then build yourself cook it off an plant to me it’s one more part of understanding growing is your medium used an made this ofc is my way . I’m not telling people to do this if they like so much the extra expense or think it makes such a difference.
I myself don’t to me it’s about getting results as easily cheaply as possible with good strain an a lot of hands on care .
Just thought I’d add my bit to convo I’ve been following
 
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Cookiezealous said:
Every time I’ve taken a clone and put it directly into build a soil it’s cooked in less than a day.
It’s crazy, it looks like… It looks like you burned it, ……..it just turns into dust. But as far as super soil goes it’s got a lot more going on than big rootz. Big rootz is amazing but it’s really hard to get most of the time. It the quality is always perfect. Sometimes build a soil will be very dry and hydrophobic. I’m pretty happy with both of them though. I use baby big rootz for cutting because it’s really weak. Once I moved to Colorado, I started running into all these random problems. I think the biggest thing was that it’s a completely different environment than what I’m used to, had to get used to all of it. I’ve always had to battle heat, I’ve never had a problem with cold. The air is also super dry out here and everyone’s growing style is a lot different. It’s kind of cool, it’s almost like different growing cultures.
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Damn must be easily attacked strain by the nitrogen or the soil is richer by far then it should be fir a growing medium
 
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Sergeant420 said:
I myself don’t to me it’s about getting results as easily cheaply as possible
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i agree with that sentence except for the underlined part. I dont live on a super tight budget, and i grow in strictly organic soil. Ive seen enough evidence from my results, the multiple in person convos ive had with them and also social media/youtube to believe that the folks at buildasoil care about their soil and the quality of the amendments inside it, probably more so than most bagged soil companies in the lesser/same price range. Im that guy who pays twice as much for organic produce, and meat without losing any sleep. quality comes first, ill cut corners somewhere else. Not on what i eat or what i smoke.

No- it isnt the "cheapest". Im also under no illusion that i couldnt just source these ingredients myself in bulk and "build", "cook" and bag my own soil of the same caliber for less money. I then need to store my bags of dirt and all those bulk bags/containers of amendments somewhere. and hope for mold or rot or rodents or gnats, etc not to ruin it. I just have no intention or desire to do so. You can also build and wire your own lights and breed your own seeds and collect rainwater instead of using the tap lol, i dont do any of that either. it just depends on where you draw the line.

You grew outdoors and it the soil was great? probably because it was rich with life! which is exactly what a good bagged soil company is aiming to replicate.

sorry for the extended rant im stoned to the gills.
 
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madvillian420 said:
i agree with that sentence except for the underlined part. I dont live on a super tight budget, and i grow in strictly organic soil. Ive seen enough evidence from my results, the multiple in person convos ive had with them and also social media/youtube to believe that the folks at buildasoil care about their soil and the quality of the amendments inside it, probably more so than most bagged soil companies in the lesser/same price range. Im that guy who pays twice as much for organic produce, and meat without losing any sleep. quality comes first, ill cut corners somewhere else. Not on what i eat or what i smoke.

No- it isnt the "cheapest". Im also under no illusion that i couldnt just source these ingredients myself in bulk and "build", "cook" and bag my own soil of the same caliber for less money. I then need to store my bags of dirt and all those bulk bags/containers of amendments somewhere. and hope for mold or rot or rodents or gnats, etc not to ruin it. I just have no intention or desire to do so. You can also build and wire your own lights and breed your own seeds and collect rainwater instead of using the tap lol, i dont do any of that either. it just depends on where you draw the line.

You grew outdoors and it the soil was great? probably because it was rich with life! which is exactly what a good bagged soil company is aiming to replicate.

sorry for the extended rant im stoned to the gills.
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Quality is always my first priority too but not waste but again I’m not saying your wasting I’m all organic all built by me old country boy .
An alive it is I Just don’t see the reason for it unless your doing all professionally then I might see reason to try .
I get your sentiment you gut the spare cash so why not I get that if I had I might try just adding my two cents .
 
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Sergeant420

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madvillian420 said:
i agree with that sentence except for the underlined part. I dont live on a super tight budget, and i grow in strictly organic soil. Ive seen enough evidence from my results, the multiple in person convos ive had with them and also social media/youtube to believe that the folks at buildasoil care about their soil and the quality of the amendments inside it, probably more so than most bagged soil companies in the lesser/same price range. Im that guy who pays twice as much for organic produce, and meat without losing any sleep. quality comes first, ill cut corners somewhere else. Not on what i eat or what i smoke.

No- it isnt the "cheapest". Im also under no illusion that i couldnt just source these ingredients myself in bulk and "build", "cook" and bag my own soil of the same caliber for less money. I then need to store my bags of dirt and all those bulk bags/containers of amendments somewhere. and hope for mold or rot or rodents or gnats, etc not to ruin it. I just have no intention or desire to do so. You can also build and wire your own lights and breed your own seeds and collect rainwater instead of using the tap lol, i dont do any of that either. it just depends on where you draw the line.

You grew outdoors and it the soil was great? probably because it was rich with life! which is exactly what a good bagged soil company is aiming to replicate.

sorry for the extended rant im stoned to the gills.
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Another point is I build soil fir season and reuse that same soil I need store very little what I do store fits in one bag airing but sealed stopping or showing me of anything had a go gnats are a normal they come they go . I use tap water I have a few my own seeds from bananas on plants beside that all bought an organic end of season I re fert re bag cook it off re issue
 
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