Transplanted and now they look sick

Sergeant420

Sergeant420

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Cookiezealous said:
These plants were super healthy, put them in a 10 gallon pot to prepare for flower, the next day they were sick. I was using an HLG 600 R spec, but I kept having problems with that , so I switched it out today for a milder LED that I’ve used in the past .
I believe that they keep getting sick because of the power of that light, I don’t think the living soil has enough juice going to allow them to keep up. The only plant that’s still doing well is the one that was off to the side not under it directly. They aren’t drinking water, I’m letting them dry out before I water them again.
I’m gonna give them a week and see if they bounce back, but everytime I switch tents and they get under that light, almost immediately they have problems. Temps at 74
Humidity ranges between 45-30, closer to 40 all day.
build a soil 3.0
Filtered water
Should have no issues
My small tent is fine using the same soil, different light, but the same water. Why does this keep happening? Is it transplant shock?
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Reading this I see also your soil is not what you’d like an your humidity very low both could be issues on top on veg You’d want above 50% in flower right about your daily 30-40
 
MtRainDog

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OP if I had to guess, the soil doesn't have enough food for your plants and the bigger badder light quickly brings the matter to.. light.

If they aren't drinking water, perhaps temps are too cold, or they don't have a large healthy root system yet.

Get a fan blowing over that soil to help speed the drying out. Keep in mind some plants don't like drying out too much either. Soil with enough aeration makes it almost impossible to over-water, so don't be scared if you don't do a hard dry back cuz some plants hate that shit.
I looked up your soil recipe and it should be well aerated enough.

Just things to maybe think about or try.
 
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Cookiezealous

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I always come on here when I’m messing something up, never for the wins. I like to hear everyone’s perspective for sure. Growing is learning That’s why I’m trying this out, but as always the hardest thing to do is not over complicate things so I’m trying to just sit and let Mother Nature work. I’m drying it out because I think they were over watered when I went out of town. That might be why they freaked after transplanting. I added root wise microbial into the hole before I put the plant in. Should have enough juice to make it through with a top dress in flower. They are one gallons going into 10 gallons, probably a 3 week veg and flip, but not anymore, might need more time. The soil thing is so simple that I mess it up because I can’t believe it’s that simple. Definitely need my humidity to be better. This light is much milder so I don’t need the ac anymore and it dries that tent out like crazy. I appreciate learning from everyone . By the way they look scarred because they were revegged. I had to cut the old bud sites off once they were ready to go.
 
Sergeant420

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Cookiezealous said:
I always come on here when I’m messing something up, never for the wins. I like to hear everyone’s perspective for sure. Growing is learning That’s why I’m trying this out, but as always the hardest thing to do is not over complicate things so I’m trying to just sit and let Mother Nature work. I’m drying it out because I think they were over watered when I went out of town. That might be why they freaked after transplanting. I added root wise microbial into the hole before I put the plant in. Should have enough juice to make it through with a top dress in flower. They are one gallons going into 10 gallons, probably a 3 week veg and flip, but not anymore, might need more time. The soil thing is so simple that I mess it up because I can’t believe it’s that simple. Definitely need my humidity to be better. This light is much milder so I don’t need the ac anymore and it dries that tent out like crazy. I appreciate learning from everyone . By the way they look scarred because they were revegged. I had to cut the old bud sites off once they were ready to go.
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Sergeant420

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I was also thinking you know if u made your soil mix an added straight to pot can have issues with soil temp one of the other guys brought it up something I learned hard way .
So what I’m saying is if u made a rich mix of soil up added ferts to it the heat in the soil raises dramatically an it will kill or stunt growth of seedlings so that’s another one fir you to think on
 
madvillian420

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pretty sure people referring to soil being "too hot" they dont mean the literal temperature. Its a reference to all the raw unprocessed nutrients and fertilizers that would "burn" a young plant by being too powerful. Maybe the temps would actually rise a bit like a compost pile does but i dont think thats whats actually killing plants. OP is using Buildasoil 3.0, a ready to use bagged soil that has in theory already been "cooked"

My humidity is same as yours OP, dont go crazy chasing your tail trying to raise it. You can grow perfectly healthy crops as is.
Ive had plenty of plants that looked like this at one point, they almost always bounced back.

Youre doing organics now, embracing the use of worm castings and various teas and amendments is gonna be super beneficial in avoiding sad plants in the future. The problem with waiting until issues arise to topdress is that most dry amendments take some time to break down and become bioavailable.
 
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madvillian420 said:
pretty sure people referring to soil being "too hot" they dont mean the literal temperature. Its a reference to all the raw unprocessed nutrients and fertilizers that would "burn" a young plant by being too powerful. Maybe the temps would actually rise a bit like a compost pile does but i dont think thats whats actually killing plants. OP is using Buildasoil 3.0, a ready to use bagged soil that has in theory already been "cooked"

My humidity is same as yours OP, dont go crazy chasing your tail trying to raise it. You can grow perfectly healthy crops as is.
Ive had plenty of plants that looked like this at one point, they almost always bounced back.

Youre doing organics now, embracing the use of worm castings and various teas and amendments is gonna be super beneficial in avoiding sad plants in the future. The problem with waiting until issues arise to topdress is that most dry amendments take some time to break down and become bioavailable.
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Thank you so much for the input
I did add worm castings to the hole as well
So I put the first layer of soil
Threw down some worm castings
Threw in some root wise microbial inoculant
Put the plant in the hole, filled it up
I honestly think it’s stress from when I went out of town, I put them in a different room, and the room was colder and had zero airflow, because I was only gonna be gone for a couple days
I think they sat stagnant in the water I provided before I left
I’ve never seen a plant get sick immediately in soil
It’s usually a week later, you see the results of what you did
If I was gonna give anybody else advice, I would say put it in Fresh soil give it a nice watering and let nature do the rest
So I’m trying to follow the same advice lol
I was on Reddit
Those dudes are mean
They attacked like soil pirates, but I’m not sure what I said to them lol I just told them what I did and they started trying to“out organic”me. I’ve kind of always liked roll it up because everyone comes together here. I talk too much onthese posts, but I’m trying to bring our community together. If you look around the world, the people that grow these plants are still sticking together like a little family and I love it. Thank you for your help.
Appreciate you
 
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Cookiezealous

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The weird thing is, is that one of the plants out of the five is totally fine, I think it was a matter of overwatering, that’s why I was letting it dry back so much but I got so much crap for that
I added beneficial’s to help compensate.
It’s gotta be in overwatering thing or maybe that plants just hardier.
 

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madvillian420 said:
pretty sure people referring to soil being "too hot" they dont mean the literal temperature. It’s a reference to all the raw unprocessed nutrients and fertilizers that would "burn" a young plant by being too powerful. Maybe the temps would actually rise a bit like a compost pile does but i dont think thats whats actually killing plants. OP is using Buildasoil 3.0, a ready to use bagged soil that has in theory already been "cooked"
I’ve made up rich soil put temp gauge in to find it nearing 40 Celsius an watched the temp drop trust me what do you think makes a battery to the plant energy it should be ball park 20 Celsius an was twice this was from adding dynamic lifter an a few things like blood bone an cow manure I ended up adding some more soil to water it out but yeah temp was high an I planted seedlings in it 1st time straight up did nothing good for them that’s co sho lol

My humidity is same as yours OP, dont go crazy chasing your tail trying to raise it. You can grow perfectly healthy crops as is.
Ive had plenty of plants that looked like this at one point, they almost always bounced back.

Youre doing organics now, embracing the use of worm castings and various teas and amendments is gonna be super beneficial in avoiding sad plants in the future. The problem with waiting until issues arise to topdress is that most dry amendments take some time to break down and become bioavailable.
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Sergeant420

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I made soil a rich soil up an planted seedlings in it killing them I was wondering why an started looking at my soil I put temp probe in i was reaching 38 Celsius when should of been closer to 20 let it cook an took 5 odd days to return to normal temp energy that’s what ferts are so when you add multiple together you create a battery of a type that battery feeds plants compost is perfect eg heat created from one can create fire ..
So it’s temp an lack of knowing id create that reaction that made my seedlings die I used exactly that soil 5 days later to great effect on my plants although over feeding easily due to how rich soil was ..
my actual ferts where dynamic lifter , blood bone ,dolamite ,cow manure ,worm castings .
Perlite an yes to much of it lol so temps are real my using it that temp an lacking what I know now was my novice mistake
 
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Cookiezealous

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Sergeant420 said:
I made soil a rich soil up an planted seedlings in it killing them I was wondering why an started looking at my soil I put temp probe in i was reaching 38 Celsius when should of been closer to 20 let it cook an took 5 odd days to return to normal temp energy that’s what ferts are so when you add multiple together you create a battery of a type that battery feeds plants compost is perfect eg heat created from one can create fire ..
So it’s temp an lack of knowing id create that reaction that made my seedlings die I used exactly that soil 5 days later to great effect on my plants although over feeding easily due to how rich soil was ..
my actual ferts where dynamic lifter , blood bone ,dolamite ,cow manure ,worm castings .
Perlite an yes to much of it lol so temps are real my using it that temp an lacking what I know now was my novice mistake
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Yeah, that’s crazy, I would’ve never thought of that
I’m glad theyre OK now though
 
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Cookiezealous

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So, in conclusion, I waited a couple days,
They had microbials and beneficial’s added to them already, so drying them out, obviously wasn’t helping the soil, but in case they were overwatered it was an evil I was willing to take part in.
Gave them a good watering
They are bouncing back, still some of the leaves are crows on one of them, but that is the most finicky plant
smac down by exotic
I popped an entire pack, and every single seed was trash, except one
Everyone of them had crazy mutations
It was really weird
Even this plant
every time you do anything the plant gets stressed
But the flower is awesome
So, they still look a little weird, but they are coming back nicely
Appreciate you guys
 

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Looking good . Did you know that over feeding a seedling can create mutants I believe look at what I did to a banana seed from my own plants this is peanut butter the banana incase you don’t know came from self pollenated plant so I plants 4 seeds an fed as seedling a strong feed only to stunt an I believe create a genetic mutation. Have a look at it so I never topped it but looks like I did I wired it apart due to being close up on its self .certain strains dislike feeding as seedling
 

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