trayvan martin

londonfog said:
thanks for telling what you really are
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If by that you mean someone who doesn't know everything, doesn't know the reasons others have for everything they do.

I don't recall much fuss over wearing native American stuff for Halloween. Plenty of people dress up as gypsies or Arab theme stereotyped costumes.

But rub some black shoe polish on, and you've committed a great sin. I don't get it.
 
GreatwhiteNorth said:
Good point.
By that logic, would this be considered Racist or just funny ?

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Yup. In reality that is no different than painting yourself black.

There was a big scandal at my college when I was there. One of the fraternal organizations had a party where they all went in black face. The university held a hearing to discuss placing them on suspension. I thought it was absurd.
 
Harrekin said:
Don't mean to sound retarded, but why would that potentially be considered racist?
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Someone costumes in "black face" and is called Racist.
Someone dresses as a Japanese Sumo and it's called ??

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-nightclub-blasted-for-blackface-photo-1.2255492

https://news.vice.com/article/the-netherlands-has-decided-traditional-black-face-is-racist

http://news.msn.com/world/dunkin-donuts-blasted-for-racist-ad-in-thailand

Just an observation - personally I think they are both just stupid costumes.
 
there is no tradition of dressing like a sumo to mock and dehumanize Japanese people. Come on guys, do any of you know American history? Google minstrel show
 
SmokeyDan said:
If by that you mean someone who doesn't know everything, doesn't know the reasons others have for everything they do.

I don't recall much fuss over wearing native American stuff for Halloween. Plenty of people dress up as gypsies or Arab theme stereotyped costumes.

But rub some black shoe polish on, and you've committed a great sin. I don't get it.
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Asshat you stated that a costume making fun of a dead black/brown youth is epic. It's tasteless and wrong. Have no problem with some white/pink person wanting to pretend to be black as a costume. Same way I have no problem with a white/pink person wanting to get a tan to get darker, but to mock a dead Trayvon is classless and tasteless and says a lot about you as a person.
 
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londonfog said:
Asshat you stated that a costume making fun of a dead black youth is epic. It's tasteless and wrong. Have no problem with some white/pink person wanting to pretend to be black as a costume. Same way I have no problem with a white/pink person wanting to get a tan to get darker, but to mock a dead Trayvon is classless and tasteless and says a lot about you as a person.
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People make fun of dead people all the time.

That Martin kid didn't deserve to die, but that don't mean I can't make fun of his dead ass for getting owned like a bitch by some short, overweight white hispanic nerd.
 
GreatwhiteNorth said:
No?

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First and foremost, I know trying to have a meaningful dialogue in this section is about as smart as farting into a fan in the summertime, so I'll be brief. I don't believe your sumo picture and samurai videos make your point that they're both just stupid costumes.

Both the sumo and samurai are grade A bad mother fuckers in Japanese society. They are powerful, and respected. When someone puts on a sumo or samurai costume it doesn't denigrate all Japanese people. Nobody treated John Belushi or Richard Pryor like shit, they had swords.

When someone paints their face black like in that vile Trayvon costume, given the history of blackface and its portrayal of blacks


it seems worse.

That's just my two cents. As a black guy, I'd prefer if all racists slathered their faces in grease paint and said nigger as often as they liked. It makes for easier identification. Maybe if I were Japanese I'd be mad as fuck right now about your videos but at least they're from 40 years ago. Trayvon is a little newer and still stings for a lot of us.
 
@ Travisw. I used the Sumo example because I saw the pic in an online newspaper I read this am & though it pertinent to this thread.
I too think the Treyvon costume is over the top, but some in our society cope with emotions by joking. Think of all the morbid jokes about Christa McAuliffe, Chris Farley, JFK, Sony Bono, ... ad-infinitum.

They are tasteless and crass, but they are a fact of life for those that repeat them, and those of us that hear them.
 
GreatwhiteNorth said:
@ Travisw. I used the Sumo example because I saw the pic in an online newspaper I read this am & though it pertinent to this thread.
I too think the Treyvon costume is over the top, but some in our society cope with emotions by joking. Think of all the morbid jokes about Christa McAuliffe, Chris Farley, JFK, Sony Bono, ... ad-infinitum.

They are tasteless and crass, but they are a fact of life for those that repeat them, and those of us that hear them.
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Why can't a joke be a joke?

I knew this pc shit was going sour when comedians started getting flack for their jokes more commonly a few years ago, before that they had a sort of "jester" status where they could say whatever they wanted.
 
Trayvon might have grown up and become a decent guy, we will never know. Unfortunately for him, he tried to murder a guy and came up short. Shit happens.
 
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