charles lewis
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This was a nice read. I think when brick top say fake he means that scientifictly its not the body stone of natural cbd. It still works but aint the same shit.
yes, old thread, bumped up to ignite yet another argument. but hey, whatever gets us away from this dumbshit election, right?i know im pretty late, but its the best thread i ever read.
Bricktop you are a cannabis genius, and you completely redefine the way i will harvest my weed in the future.
In fact, i join this forum only to thanks you a bunch I got 3 big plants right now, with 95/5% cloudy/amber. I will harvest tm morning.
cannabidol is active. it's degraded delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol. it produces sedative effects, unwanted for a good giggly high, necessary for a good sleepy stone. i will say this; it takes MONTHS to take a strain 'too long' to where it decreases effect. as the old saying goes, ''if you think it's done, wait another week''. most who follow this rule experience tremendous gains in final yield/weight, with some of the most potent stuff you can find.I thought CBD wasn't psychoactive at all? Most connoisseurs I know say CBD makes them less high. Like if they smoke a really high CBD strain and then smoke a super potent THC strain, they won't get very high.
I know it all depends on personal preference, but if I pick before 30% amber or so, the high doesn't last very long. Maybe 45 minutes. By letting my plants go to 50% amber, the high lasts much longer and though it's more stony, I don't feel tired unless I'm sitting down or it is at night.
Maybe more experienced people can chime in.
it certainly is! but there are a few more old sayings that apply here... 'there's my way, there's your way, and then there's the RIGHT way', and 'there are a thousand ways to do anything, but only 87 of them work'...im not very experienced, but i think its all about personnal choice!
i 1000% agreeit's always up to you, but if you are uncertain, experiment. harvest at different stages, find what works for you. the best part of having multiple (thousands) of strains is being able to find one that custom fits your needs. once you have your keeper/s, you're golden.
Well welcome anyway, hope you stick around.Damn. I signed up to talk to BrickTop and now I see he's gone.
This thread was great, thanks for the info. I would have liked to understand this sooner. If you are trying to help patients with medical marijuana, the drowsiness/disorientation from CBNs can be a very negative factor as it affects the desire to eat.
Just like a tomato pick the first top buds @ cloudy heads,wait 10 days and pick another section(these will have more of a mixed color)do this into the cold season and compare your favorite smoke,as well as increase your yield bye 40%I'm trying to harvest an Indica plant (N.L.) at the correct time, I want a couchlock/narcotic high that can put me to sleep.
I'm starting to believe that harvesting at peak THC (cloudy) is what will give the best effect, and that this will give couch-lock effect if it's an Indica. So no need to wait for 50% amber before harvest. Correct?
I expect a lot of the cloudy ones to turn amber during curing, and that amber (when harvested) will turn into "shit" (overripe) during the cure.
Great, detailed information (and educational). Thank you!CBD is what gives a true body stone, a true couch-lock stone. Since CBD has almost been totally bred out of modern strains smokers who like couch-lock have had to resort to giving up THC, throwing away THC, intentionally allowing the level of THC to drop as it oxidizes and become CBN so they can get a fake body stone from it, a false couch-lock stone from it. That is what amber trichomes actually mean. Amber is a sign of oxidized THC, THC that has been lost and transformed into a substance that is only mildly psychoactive.
Most couch-lock lovers refuse to accept and believe that fact, but nonetheless, it is a fact.
CANNABIDIOL (CBD)
Cannabidiol is nonpsychoactive and was initially thought to have no effect on the psycho activity of THC. Recent evidence however show that smokers of cannabis are less likely to experience schizophrenia-like symptoms if there is a higher CBD to THC ratio. Experiments show that participants experienced less intense psychotic effects when intravenous THC was co-administered with CBD. It has been hypothesized that CBD acts as an allosteric antagonist at the CB1 receptor and thus alters the psychoactive effects of THC, resulting in a more easily manageable high.
CBD is generally considered to have more medicinal properties than THC. It appears to relieve convulsion, inflammation (and thereby also migraines), anxiety and nausea. That is why strains with a high concentration of CBD is suitable for medicinal use.
Although CBD has its own particular medicinal value it is not more important than THC when it comes to treating various afflictions. It is the interaction between the two that gives rise to the effect that sometimes alleviates the symptoms of various medical conditions.
CBD has a greater affinity for the CB2 receptor than for the CB1 receptor, meaning that its effect is mostly in the body and not so much in the head. CBD shares a precursor with THC and is the main cannabinoid in low-THC cannabis strains like hemp.
Landrace strains, usually of indica heritage, contain higher concentrations of CBD than recreational drug strains, which are usually bred towards a higher concentration of THC. This is the reason why strains containing high ratios of CBD can be difficult to find.
TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL (THC)
Tetrahydrocannabinol, also known as delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC), is the primary psychoactive component found in the cannabis plant. It was first isolated by Raphael Mechoulam, Yechiel Gaoni, and Habib Edery from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, in 1964.
This is the main compound that gives rise to the high that is tightly linked with the cannabis plant. It affects several areas of the brain simultaneously and can therefore give rise to an assortment of experiences, ranging from altered perception of time and the self, to feelings of euphoria and relaxation all through the body.
Medically, it appears to be analgetic, meaning that it is capable of alleviating even severe pain. It is also known to be neuroprotective, which rules out the possibility of brain damage, which was initially proposed to follow from heavy use of the plant. It has approximately equal affinity for the CB1 and CB2 receptors. By binding to CB1 receptors (the ones in brain) it produces the high that we are so familiar with. That is why the effects of THC is more cerebral, than the effect of CBD, which seems to have a greater affinity for the CB2 receptor.
CANNABINOL (CBN)
Cannabinol is the primary degradation product of THC and increases in concentration with plant age. The concentration of this product in the bud is heavily dependent on the time of harvest. Harvesting the bud at a late stage also means that the concentration of CBN in relation to THC will be higher when compared to the peak of THC production.
CBN content increases as THC degrades. It is only mildly psychoactive and can cause "fuzzy head", drowsiness, disorientation and sleepiness in the smoker, properties that can be considered unpleasant in nature compared to the clear high of the THC. Its affinity to the CB2 receptors is higher than for the CB1 receptor, meaning that it mostly affects the body.
THC BIOSYNTHESIS
I won't be having any more kids. Next cat or dog I adopt will be named Brick Top for sure!Goodie gumdrops .... but if you want to make me happy name your first, or next, kid after me.
Wouldn't it be fun to have a little Brick Top of your own around the house?
I fondly remember my father growing "skunk" for yrs and yrs and it smelled exactly as you described. No sweetness...just straight up pungent skunk spray. Back then (70-80s) everything was grown outside and oddly, it never really smelled in the fields unless it was during a rough fall storm. I do remember it smelling up our barn when he dried it. Processing was quick and swift back then though. After he passed my brother found a foot locker with some coffee cans full of seeds he must've forgotten about. I doubt they'd germ and its hard to say what they are or where they came from so we just keep em for the sake of memories.Sorry to be blathering on and on...but I just remembered something I wanted to pose to all the newer generation smokers who might be slightly skeptical of another "well-back-in-MY-day" anecdote....
Just as an example....I'm sure most of us have had the experience of driving somewhere along some lonely highway or backroad, late at night....moving at a pretty fast speed....when, suddenly, you start to smell a skunk.....and you're car is moving down the road for maybe a mile or two before the stench finally starts to dissipate a bit! I always marvel at the "stickiness" of those molecules that hang in the air and form an invisible "mist" in the air that will stick to anything in the vicinity. Even that quick exposure to those airborne molecules is enough to "mark" you!
IF people were to grow the real skunk strain in a commercial greenhouse, the odor of that greenhouse would be smelled for miles and miles -in much the same way that real skunk-spray can be smelled...doesn't matter how fast you run through that smell...it WILL stick to you! Furthermore, one of my best buddies is one of the owners of a commercial grow op and even that entire range doesn't generate anywhere near the stank of even one of the old-school skunk plants. I would love to grow that strain, but if I did, then everyone in the vicinity would smell it and it would hang in the air for a long time...and I'd probably get broken into and ripped off.....so you now see the dilemma of growing such a strain!
Try searching on that. It's a cut and paste from several sources and I don't agree with all of them. But my education is not in that field, @cannabineer what do you think?Great, detailed information (and educational). Thank you!
Ummm....You never know! They have found seeds buried with mummies in tombs that are thousands of years old....and they sprouted! If you have a lot of seeds, it very well might be possible to bring a couple back -no kidding! They might be slow to grow for the first generation...but might gain vitality with subsequent generations. If I were you, then I'd be absolutely going nuts to try and see what happens!After he passed my brother found a foot locker with some coffee cans full of seeds he must've forgotten about. I doubt they'd germ and its hard to say what they are or where they came from so we just keep em for the sake of memories.