trimming leaves in flowering?

novice11 said:

The only leaves I remove are the lower leaves that are already yellow and starting to get necrotic. I will MOVE leaves around if they are blocking a bud site. I figure the plant knows what it wants better than I do.

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The only disagreement I can come up with here would be that while in the long run yes he plant knows what to do best but also I see it as all the lower stuff up to about half way up are kinda just booster leaves, yea it buds andall but I feel its more of something to capture energy at a young age to feed energy to the important tops. I feel that once the tops have got a little maturity you should be able to trim most of the lower stuff off that way you can help the plant do what it needs for itself to concentrate energy on your main buds

mcpurple said:

leave the fan leafs alone. what the hell do you guys think makes the buds? allowing more light to the buds? NO.
when growing fruit do you prune off all the leafs so you can have the light hit the fruit? NO why? because the fruit does not need to receive light the leafs do. less leaf=less bud

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Now im not trying to doubt you or anything because you DO know alot more about growing than I do, I don't feel that weed should be taken care of just like fruit plants. The difference I see here is that fruit doesn't have leaves coming out of the product like bud. I feel that by clearing the path for light to hit buds directly helps because then the buds are getting energy pumped directly to hem from he leaves coming out of them instead of having to travel thru the stem or whatever. But im still learning and trying different things so I could be all wrong

I think by now you've got the idea about pruning during 12/12 just use your best judgement and you should be fine.

I tear off the really big fan leaves about a week before harvest, not sure if it benefits anything but it saves a lot of trimming time.

thanks for all the feed back guys it was alot of help, i think i am just going to let the plant grow and not cut anything off. i just dont want to risk my plant going hermie

Where I do outdoor we get a lot of powdery mildew, so I've found that it helps to keep the inside of the plant cleaned up and fairly open to prevent the mildew. I especially trim the tiny little leaves that get all densely bunched up on the major stems but never make much product. But I hardly ever touch a fan leaf toward the outside of the plant.

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805Farming said:

Love finding exactly what I was looking for in a matter of seconds on this site. Useful thread...

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That's what we're here for is to grow some good shit and help others do the same

reading and experimenting will set you free

just remember you have to do whats best for you and your setup

not whats best for the next guy and his setup

when i started i got pissy and salty when people did not answer my questions right away

so i started reding everything every where about 4 diff sites everybody had faqs

now i can handle about anything

I agree with mryummie. photosynthesis takes place within the cells of the leaves. healthy plants create a natural balance to live out their life-cycle. In my humble opinion, you need those sugars the leaves are creating to fuel some big ass bud. That being said, experimentation kicks ass too. You may develop a new way of doing things.

^ i doubt if you will come up wit a new way of doing things its been done by many for many years

but you might find what works best for you and your setup

Dwezelitsame said:

^ i doubt if you will come up wit a new way of doing things its been done by many for many years

but you might find what works best for you and your setup

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If that were everones mindset we wouldn't have come up with things like lst or supercropping or water curing. It all starts with what someone would call a bad idea but from trial and error new grow methods appear

Dwezelitsame said:

i have heard all and so i tried a side by side
my findings plants need big fan leaves for growthand stretch
after the stretch is over plants no longer need them sum start to yellow sum start to die and drop
i have grown and removed after stretch finished to almost bald plant
leaving only leaves around buds no herm everything else was corect
id rather experiment then listen
cause you never know who you listening to
experiment
experiment
you will always learn sumthing
if nothing els what not to do again

1Luv

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I have to agree. I usually pluck fan leaves durring veg and then on day 21 of flowering always after the stretch. Remember leaves store nutes, nitrogen would still be present in them which is needed in early flowering.

If that were everones mindset we wouldn't have come up with things like lst or supercropping or water curing. It all starts with what someone would call a bad idea but from trial and error new grow methods appear

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i hear ya loud and clear

but there is possability and probability

if you start experimenting today what are percentages you will come up wit sumtin new in say 10 years

from here honestly

Dwezelitsame said:

i have heard all and so i tried a side by side
my findings plants need big fan leaves for growthand stretch
after the stretch is over plants no longer need them sum start to yellow sum start to die and drop
i have grown and removed after stretch finished to almost bald plant
leaving only leaves around buds no herm everything else was corect
id rather experiment then listen
cause you never know who you listening to
experiment
experiment
you will always learn sumthing
if nothing els what not to do again

1Luv

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interesting approach, I may try this myself

Dwezelitsame said:

i hear ya loud and clear

but there is possability and probability

if you start experimenting today what are percentages you will come up wit sumtin new in say 10 years

from here honestly

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if you want to go possibility and probability we can go with something like schooling. in the economy were in you can see it as you can go ahead and try it now and have the possibility of finding a job when your out but even more so the probability is slim to none. does that mean dont go to school? no it means try something new and who knows you may find some good to come out of it.

imo nothing good from takin leafs of any plant unless there dead all your doin is takin its energy away you here this theory
plants are in flowering stage so its normal for leafs to turn yellow the plants takin is stored energy from it its all good

well people more and more growers are realizing that its not good keeping it green till harvest is what its all about peeps feeding not just your flowering food and A and B 's but adding supliments like cal mag for any defiencies as well as other micro nutrients is the key

you here the flushing 2 weeks prior to harvest yet again another dumb idea why take away nutrients at its most crucial time of flowering just dont understand that when your buds are getting heavy and one might think in reality 2 weeks is that enough time to rid the plant of any nutrients lol NOT would take months prob

your growing for best possible yields so if you got a healty plant at harvest rather then a dead lookin one which plant you think would yield you more

DrFever said:

imo nothing good from takin leafs of any plant unless there dead all your doin is takin its energy away you here this theory
plants are in flowering stage so its normal for leafs to turn yellow the plants takin is stored energy from it its all good

well people more and more growers are realizing that its not good keeping it green till harvest is what its all about peeps feeding not just your flowering food and A and B 's but adding supliments like cal mag for any defiencies as well as other micro nutrients is the key

you here the flushing 2 weeks prior to harvest yet again another dumb idea why take away nutrients at its most crucial time of flowering just dont understand that when your buds are getting heavy and one might think in reality 2 weeks is that enough time to rid the plant of any nutrients lol NOT would take months prob

your growing for best possible yields so if you got a healty plant at harvest rather then a dead lookin one which plant you think would yield you more

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nice shit DR looking good

DrFever said:

imo nothing good from takin leafs of any plant unless there dead all your doin is takin its energy away you here this theory
plants are in flowering stage so its normal for leafs to turn yellow the plants takin is stored energy from it its all good

well people more and more growers are realizing that its not good keeping it green till harvest is what its all about peeps feeding not just your flowering food and A and B 's but adding supliments like cal mag for any defiencies as well as other micro nutrients is the key


you here the flushing 2 weeks prior to harvest yet again another dumb idea why take away nutrients at its most crucial time of flowering just dont understand that when your buds are getting heavy and one might think in reality 2 weeks is that enough time to rid the plant of any nutrients lol NOT would take months prob

your growing for best possible yields so if you got a healty plant at harvest rather then a dead lookin one which plant you think would yield you more

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Sorry DR I have to disagree with you. I have had harvest that I did not flush in the past and compared smoke to a flushed harvest and you can notice a big difference by far. Have you ever noticed black ash or cracking sometimes when you smoke and sometimes you can even taste the chemicals. A properly flushed crop will not do this

You are pretty much contradicting yourself by saying the plants store energy and nutes. Yes this is true. But then you say why would wanna take away nutes at the plants most important 2 weeks or whatever. Bro you are not taking away nutes if the plants leave store them, correct? What you are doing is flushing out your soil or medium and making the plant take the nutes it already has stored in its leaves. That is the purpose of flushing and it is not a stupid idea. Now you dont wanna flush for a month because your plant will begin to basicly eat its self but a good flush for max 2 weeks is always good. But hey everyone has there own opinion Im not bashing you for it. Just letting you know my opinion and these are actually facts. You should do some research on the purpose of flushing. This was invented for a reason!

Hey nice plants btw Doc. Check out mine.