Trump plans to end citizenship for children of immigrants born in US

Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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squarepush3r said:
Its possible, beyond my legal ability to really say. Will probably be hashed out in courts? By the way, the Democrats used to be able to get votes by appealing to the middle class and average citizen, I really don't see why yall are so desperate to have unlimited low IQ immigrants now so you can convince them to vote blue.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/9smit6/axios_trump_to_terminate_birthright_citizenship/e8q70rn/

According to this
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=14


Senator Lyman Trumbull said:

“The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means, “subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof." [...] What do we mean by subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? Not owing allegiance to anybody else.” Source

Senator Reverdy Johnson said

“Now, all that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us, shall be considered as citizens of the United States.”
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Admit it, you miss the shit outta Gab.com.
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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squarepush3r said:
Its possible, beyond my legal ability to really say. Will probably be hashed out in courts? By the way, the Democrats used to be able to get votes by appealing to the middle class and average citizen, I really don't see why yall are so desperate to have unlimited low IQ immigrants now so you can convince them to vote blue.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/9smit6/axios_trump_to_terminate_birthright_citizenship/e8q70rn/

According to this
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=14


Senator Lyman Trumbull said:

“The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means, “subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof." [...] What do we mean by subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? Not owing allegiance to anybody else.” Source

Senator Reverdy Johnson said

“Now, all that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us, shall be considered as citizens of the United States.”
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Stop posting, dumbass.

That case was settled by the supreme court 150 years ago.

Why do you think all Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens?

Because it is a U.S. territory under the jurisdiction of the U.S., dumbass.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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squarepush3r said:
Its possible, beyond my legal ability to really say. Will probably be hashed out in courts? By the way, the Democrats used to be able to get votes by appealing to the middle class and average citizen, I really don't see why yall are so desperate to have unlimited low IQ immigrants now so you can convince them to vote blue.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/9smit6/axios_trump_to_terminate_birthright_citizenship/e8q70rn/

According to this
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=14


Senator Lyman Trumbull said:

“The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means, “subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof." [...] What do we mean by subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? Not owing allegiance to anybody else.” Source

Senator Reverdy Johnson said

“Now, all that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us, shall be considered as citizens of the United States.”
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Low iq white, radicalized by reddit

Pathetic
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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doublejj said:
I'm was born here....so were my parents and grandparents......and my son will need to immigrate?....go home your drunk comrade...
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My family’s been here since the 1620s. Initially, I was told we were Cherokee, but that turned out to be an old family lie. Turns out I’m 3/4 Highland Scottish, from two Pictish kingdoms: Orkney, and Argyll which was once the Kingdom of Dal Riada. Prior to becoming the Picts, my family walked the Silk Road as Tocharians in the Tarim Basin and Saka Scythian nomads in India & Parthia, hence the very rare Silk Road disease that runs in my family.

..I don’t understand why people give Old Crow such a hard time. It’s young, but for a bottom shelf bourbon, it’s fairly smooth.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Olive Drab Green said:
My family’s been here since the 1620s. Initially, I was told we were Cherokee, but that turned out to be an old family lie. Turns out I’m 3/4 Highland Scottish, from two Pictish kingdoms: Orkney, and Argyll which was once the Kingdom of Dal Riada. Prior to becoming the Picts, my family walked the Silk Road as Tocharian and Saka Scythian nomads, hence the very rare Silk Road disease that runs in my family.

..I don’t understand why people give Old Crow such a hard time. It’s young, but for a bottom shelf bourbon, it’s fairly smooth.
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My family was rabble rabble rabble rabble

But we were white, so they let us in. I still haven't assimilated.
 
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schuylaar

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squarepush3r said:
seems fairly straightforward, there is an AND that says the persons must also be subject to the jurisdiction, which illegal aliens arguably are not. Its perfectly within the constitution framework.

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wrong. jurisdiction means 'place'.

The sheriff enforces the law in his jurisdiction. Licensed from GettyImages. noun.Jurisdiction is defined as the power or authority to decide legal cases. An exampleof jurisdiction is a court having control over legal decisions made about a certain group of towns.
 
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schuylaar

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Buddha2525 said:
You libtards are dumb as rocks. The 14th amendment was only for giving freed slaves citizenship. The proof is the 1924 Indian Citizenship Act. If the 14th amendment includes everyone born on American soil becomes a citizen, why weren't Indians who were born here for thousands of years before any white man not considered citizens until 1924, and not given the right to vote until 1957?
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because they weren't born in america; they were born to their tribal nation..only until the white man came and took their land did they call it America.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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squarepush3r said:
Its possible, beyond my legal ability to really say. Will probably be hashed out in courts? By the way, the Democrats used to be able to get votes by appealing to the middle class and average citizen, I really don't see why yall are so desperate to have unlimited low IQ immigrants now so you can convince them to vote blue.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/9smit6/axios_trump_to_terminate_birthright_citizenship/e8q70rn/

According to this
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=14


Senator Lyman Trumbull said:

“The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means, “subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof." [...] What do we mean by subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? Not owing allegiance to anybody else.” Source

Senator Reverdy Johnson said

“Now, all that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us, shall be considered as citizens of the United States.”
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Uhhummm, how can one argue with a belief that is not based upon fact? I guess I'll point out again that the amendment says other than you say it should.

Is it ok if I didn't read all that because the amendment very clearly says "All persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction of the US", not what you want it to say?

The problem with your whole argument is that the amendment says something other than you'd like.
 
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