Trump's War on Factual News Journalism.

Fogdog

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Looks like Trump is doing the dirty work, look for simply astounding bribes (campaign contributions) for everybody in congress Zuck could own every one of them millions of times over. Why he doesn't just give Trump a billion to kill it? Zuck figures he's be better off bribing the next administration and congress, he can easily buy them all, though a few are not for sale. Compared to him the rest of you are nothing and will end up being treated like nothing.

Hard to believe that Trump wouldn't offer protection for a price, "Nice little business ya got here Zuck, it would be a shame if something was happened to it..."

A last-minute push to include another round of $1,200 payments to Americans failed. Here's what's being considered instead.

Hard to believe that Trump wouldn't offer protection for a price, "Nice little business ya got here Zuck, it would be a shame if something was happened to it..."

No doubt Trump's campaign took note of the paltry donations from FB and this is his payback.

I'm OK with FB being the center of an antitrust lawsuit. Rack him. If it will end their predatory practices, whatever it takes.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Save your country, register as a republican, nominate candidates and vote in their primaries. Organize as get as many patriots as you can to join the republican party, to take it over in regions of the country at least, or divide and destroy it. Nominate moderate republicans or outright liberals if you can, make it come true, "there is no difference between the parties". Fight dirty and fight to their death or yours, in other words make an effort to undermine them from inside their own camp. They drove the RINOs out and you can drive some of the MAGATS out in disgust, with policy platforms to draw out the racists and cause them to leave. If you burn down their house they will leave it, a small percentage of fanatics control the party and vote in primaries, that makes it doable in many places. Vote republican in the primaries and democrat in the election, turn the system that sustains them on it's head, sow division, discord and confusion among their ranks.

If someone like Stacey Abrams can organize millions to vote in the general election, they can mobilize a fraction of that to take over the republican nomination in many places. If hundreds of thousands of black people suddenly register as republicans and they had their own slick conman (always white as snow) can run in them, or they can scare the shit out of the republican candidates. As the Trumpers dwindle over time as Donald fades away, take them over where you can, don't worry about the democrats for a spell, focus on becoming a bad republican.

Where can you fight most effectively and get in the faces of racist assholes? At republican party meetings is where, right in the middle of the fucks! Most won't say a word or even attend meetings, they will just register and vote for a candidate who will betray the republicans, then go vote democratic. Use the system against them, the only thing you can't do in most states is pick the democratic candidate, you can still vote for them though and nominate the republican of your choice. This is one way to fight and even take over the republican party in some states or at least fuck the traitors over. Don't worry about them doing the same thing, they are too stupid and emotion driven to think of it and their impact would be minimal if they did.

Use the registration and primary system to fuck them over, they've be fighting dirty, lying and cheating for decades. This is one way to fight enemies of the constitution, show them what fighting dirty looks like.
 
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Fogdog

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Save your country, register as a republican, nominate candidates and vote in their primaries. Organize as get as many patriots as you can to join the republican party, to take it over in regions of the country at least, or divide and destroy it. Nominate moderate republicans or outright liberals if you can, make it come true, "there is no difference between the parties". Fight dirty and fight to their death or yours, in other words make an effort to undermine them from inside their own camp. They drove the RINOs out and you can drive some of the MAGATS out in disgust, with policy platforms to draw out the racists and cause them to leave. If you burn down their house they will leave it, a small percentage of fanatics control the party and vote in primaries, that makes it doable in many places. Vote republican in the primaries and democrat in the election, turn the system that sustains them on it's head, sow division, discord and confusion among their ranks.

If someone like Stacey Abrams can organize millions to vote in the general election, they can mobilize a fraction of that to take over the republican nomination in many places. If hundreds of thousands of black people suddenly register as republicans and they had their own slick conman (always white as snow) can run in them, or they can scare the shit out of the republican candidates. As the Trumpers dwindle over time as Donald fades away, take them over where you can, don't worry about the democrats for a spell, focus on becoming a bad republican.

Where can you fight most effectively and get in the faces of racist assholes? At republican party meetings is where, right in the middle of the fucks! Most won't say a word or even attend meetings, they will just register and vote for a candidate who will betray the republicans, then go vote democratic. Use the system against them, the only thing you can't do in most states is pick the democratic candidate, you can still vote for them though and nominate the republican of your choice. This is one way to fight and even take over the republican party in some states or at least fuck the traitors over. Don't worry about them doing the same thing, they are to stupid and emotion driven to think of it and their impact would be minimal if they did.

Use the registration and primary system to fuck them over, they've be fighting dirty, lying and cheating for decades. This is one way tp fight enemies of the constitution, show them what fighting dirty looks like.
Come on down here, give up your Canadian citizenship, become a US citizen and then you may vote for whatever kind of Republican you like.

What was your emotional response to my suggestion that you give up your Canadian citizenship and become a US citizen? That's probably the same response I had to your suggestion that I vote for a Republican.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Come on down here, give up your Canadian citizenship, become a US citizen and then you may vote for whatever kind of Republican you like.

What was your emotional response to my suggestion that you give up your Canadian citizenship and become a US citizen? That's probably the same response I had to your suggestion that I vote for a Republican.
I didn't say to vote for a republican, I said to nominate one, vote democratic

You are just registering in most states, you don't even need to join, it might foster more open primaries where less radical candidates are thrown up. Do republicans fear the base and Trump as much in states with open primaries?

I'm just tossing out ideas that I figure plenty of Americans are mulling over right now. How do you win this social war and make sure your country is secure form those who would destroy the constitution? This not a personal fight, though emotion motivates us all at a basic level, this is a fight for the constitution against those who have demonstrated they want to destroy it.

I ain't suggesting you wear the mark of Trump on your forehead, just that you be a clever bastard. :lol:

Hey the brits planned D day ya know!
 

Fogdog

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I didn't say to vote for a republican, I said to nominate one, vote democratic

You are just registering in most states, you don't even need to join, it might foster more open primaries where less radical candidates are thrown up. Do republicans fear the base and Trump as much in states with open primaries?

I'm just tossing out ideas that I figure plenty of Americans are mulling over right now. How do you win this social war and make sure your country is secure form those who would destroy the constitution? This not a personal fight, though emotion motivates us all at a basic level, this is a fight for the constitution against those who have demonstrated they want to destroy it.

I ain't suggesting you wear the mark of Trump on your forehead, just that you be a clever bastard. :lol:

Hey the brits planned D day ya know!
Nope, not ever going to sit down and decide which Republican is the least worst in a primary. It's like trying to decide which is best, Charlie Manson or John Wayne Gacy. I'll vote in a Republican Primary when you do.
 

hanimmal

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That will just make it that much easier for foreign puppets to infiltrate the Democratic party if people are not voting for the best candidate in the party they back.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That will just make it that much easier for foreign puppets to infiltrate the Democratic party if people are not voting for the best candidate in the party they back.
Oh I'm sure there are those thinking it through, it's impact, practicality and other possible effects. I'm absolutely certain some American has thought of it and if it's viable they will organize around it, if not they won't. There's a big gap between throwing an idea on the table to seeing it implemented, it only works if enough agree.

I'd be more concerned with domestic traitors than foreign puppets at this point, those puppets that exist are about to be rolled up or live under a national security microscope. How many state republican AG's want to overturn a certified election again? Was it 18 who signed onto this travesty by the Texas criminal AG who is angling for a pardon? They have already committed sedition along with Trump.

An authoritarian anti democratic party is threatening public and election officials with violence and death, unless they betray the constitution, every single republican owns that. If you want to give up on democracy fine, but understand you are in a fight for the life of your country and perhaps your own. The American political landscape has been forever altered, there is no going back now. Joe will bring stability, but he would be a fucking fool if he didn't work tooth and nail behind the scenes to destroy these people, they are not just an real and present danger, they are an existential threat, Joe Biden is no fool, Putin knows it.

This is NOT politics, politics does not work like this, one traditional democratic party is face to face with an authoritarian fascist regime and party that is incompatible with the founding ethos of the nation and the constitution. Even if these people are in the majority, they are still traitors and still wrong, unless they follow the constitution in spirit as well as with actions.

Trump asks to join Texas in Supreme Court bid to undo Biden win (cnbc.com)
 

hanimmal

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Oh I'm sure there are those thinking it through, it's impact, practicality and other possible effects. I'm absolutely certain some American has thought of it and if it's viable they will organize around it, if not they won't. There's a big gap between throwing an idea on the table to seeing it implemented, it only works if enough agree.

I'd be more concerned with domestic traitors than foreign puppets at this point, those puppets that exist are about to be rolled up or live under a national security microscope. How many state republican AG's want to overturn a certified election again? Was it 18 who signed onto this travesty by the Texas criminal AG who is angling for a pardon? They have already committed sedition along with Trump.

An authoritarian anti democratic party is threatening public and election officials with violence and death, unless they betray the constitution, every single republican owns that. If you want to give up on democracy fine, but understand you are in a fight for the life of your country and perhaps your own. The American political landscape has been forever altered, there is no going back now. Joe will bring stability, but he would be a fucking fool if he didn't work tooth and nail behind the scenes to destroy these people, they are not just an real and present danger, they are an existential threat, Joe Biden is no fool, Putin knows it.

This is NOT politics, politics does not work like this, one traditional democratic party is face to face with an authoritarian fascist regime and party that is incompatible with the founding ethos of the nation and the constitution. Even if these people are in the majority, they are still traitors and still wrong, unless they follow the constitution in spirit as well as with actions.

Trump asks to join Texas in Supreme Court bid to undo Biden win (cnbc.com)
Why do you think that there is a difference at this point?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What was your emotional response to my suggestion that you give up your Canadian citizenship and become a US citizen? That's probably the same response I had to your suggestion that I vote for a Republican.
Yer right about the emotion foggy, I've been pissed all day, an unusual thing for me, it's partly the news, though I've been mild compared to Chris Cuomo and others I've been watching this evening, I backed off the news a bit too. I think tomorrow I'm gonna limit my self to an hour a day cause what I've been seeing coming out of America is pissing me off as much as any patriotic American. The miles long breadlines of people in the cold got to me yesterday and the on going clown show mentioned in some of my posts earlier helped tonight.

My day started in the grow with Al my gardener, who is poorly educated, but a good man, who thinks covid is a hoax and cannot be reasoned with even using skillful means. Today I told him I was gonna maintain social distancing until I was vaccinated, and he's an anti vaccer too. He started spouting disinformation and telling me I was crazy etc. I kinda lost it a bit, looked him square in the eye and told him spreading disinformation about the vaccine is no better than being a fucking murder, I meant every word and still do. He got pissed and was about to storm out, I quickly defused the situation said forget it and went to do another job. I'm not angry with Al at all, I am very pissed at whatever is feeding him this shit and making us both potential victims.

I've quit smoking pot for awhile now and I'm practicing quite a bit, it's sensitization process and one becomes very aware of ones internal state, of feelings driving emotions and intentions etc. Anyway, anger is a horrible feeling and I've been feeling horrible all day, but tomorrow is a new day and this too will pass.

When things bother me I look for solutions, both for myself and others too, the Pali word is dukkha, often translated as suffering, but it also has another meaning and that is dissatisfaction. Nature built us this way so we can survive, once a sensual pleasure is sated the feeling does not last, in cannot. We need the next meal and the next sexual act, the next shiny thing, the new car feeling fades fast and after awhile it's just a car. Pleasure is ephemeral so is anger, though this anger has no object or person attached to it. At one level these are just people reacting to their conditioning, fear and the disinformation they have been feed, like Al. There has to be social and personal accountability though, but first they must accept reality, for their own good as well as ours.

Sit more, less news, detachment does not mean what most people believe, it describes internal processes of deconditioning. I care about people, what happens to them and want the best, even Americans and this problem of alternative realities is in my face too, I'm not that detached and cannot be, we are all in this together. Some people around me don't care and say screw the Americans, I don't care, or I gave up on American news, I don't argue with them much, there's little point in that too.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Why do you think that there is a difference at this point?
Some people have crossed a line Hamimmal, America will survive, but something fundamental has changed with the polarization of the parties. It has gone from politics to a visceral fight for survival in the minds of many, mostly on the right and increasingly among patriots (it would be wrong to call them left). One thing that has changed is that one party has embraced fascism and opposes the constitution openly. I know American history and the country has seen worse than this, it is a time of change though, and it will get worse before it gets better. In the long run it is a good thing, provided you survive, that's what this struggle is really about, the past vs the future. Trump is gone, but Trumpism remains and Mitch discovered it, not the old soft sell subtitle racism, Donald blew their cover as well as the lid off.

The main thing is, though I might at times be critical and have hairbrained schemes, I'm in Joe's corner and rooting for the patriots. Living next door to 320 million heathen savages with the most powerful military in the world is not a pleasant prospect. Needless to say I'm gonna do everything I can to support the constitution and the rule of law, I'm a liberal, a small L one first and foremost. Liberalism is transnational and America has spent lot's of money, blood and effort spreading the idea
 

Fogdog

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Yer right about the emotion foggy, I've been pissed all day, an unusual thing for me, it's partly the news, though I've been mild compared to Chris Cuomo and others I've been watching this evening, I backed off the news a bit too. I think tomorrow I'm gonna limit my self to an hour a day cause what I've been seeing coming out of America is pissing me off as much as any patriotic American. The miles long breadlines of people in the cold got to me yesterday and the on going clown show mentioned in some of my posts earlier helped tonight.

My day started in the grow with Al my gardener, who is poorly educated, but a good man, who thinks covid is a hoax and cannot be reasoned with even using skillful means. Today I told him I was gonna maintain social distancing until I was vaccinated, and he's an anti vaccer too. He started spouting disinformation and telling me I was crazy etc. I kinda lost it a bit, looked him square in the eye and told him spreading disinformation about the vaccine is no better than being a fucking murder, I meant every word and still do. He got pissed and was about to storm out, I quickly defused the situation said forget it and went to do another job. I'm not angry with Al at all, I am very pissed at whatever is feeding him this shit and making us both potential victims.

I've quit smoking pot for awhile now and I'm practicing quite a bit, it's sensitization process and one becomes very aware of ones internal state, of feelings driving emotions and intentions etc. Anyway, anger is a horrible feeling and I've been feeling horrible all day, but tomorrow is a new day and this too will pass.

When things bother me I look for solutions, both for myself and others too, the Pali word is dukkha, often translated as suffering, but it also has another meaning and that is dissatisfaction. Nature built us this way so we can survive, once a sensual pleasure is sated the feeling does not last, in cannot. We need the next meal and the next sexual act, the next shiny thing, the new car feeling fades fast and after awhile it's just a car. Pleasure is ephemeral so is anger, though this anger has no object or person attached to it. At one level these are just people reacting to their conditioning, fear and the disinformation they have been feed, like Al. There has to be social and personal accountability though, but first they must accept reality, for their own good as well as ours.

Sit more, less news, detachment does not mean what most people believe, it describes internal processes of deconditioning. I care about people, what happens to them and want the best, even Americans and this problem of alternative realities is in my face too, I'm not that detached and cannot be, we are all in this together. Some people around me don't care and say screw the Americans, I don't care, or I gave up on American news, I don't argue with them much, there's little point in that too.
If you find that the news is causing you stress, it is because Trump wants it that way.
 

Fogdog

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It's also pissing me off, you too
My stress level and anger were off the charts last summer when Trump's goons were gassing, beating and disappearing people from the streets of my city, Portland. The stress level leading up to this election was pretty high. This current wall of noise is, as Douglas Adams would say, mostly harmless.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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My stress level and anger were off the charts last summer when Trump's goons were gassing, beating and disappearing people from the streets of my city, Portland. The stress level leading up to this election was pretty high. This current wall of noise is, as Douglas Adams would say, mostly harmless.
If they start tossing starving families out of their home for Christmas and don't come through with some cash for you folks, I don't think I'd be able to not be pissed. Yesterday I saw miles long lines of people in the cold and dark lined up for breadlines, some were covered in blankets trying to stay warm. It reminded me of the old Soviet Union, but wasn't that bad there. I wasn't in too good a mood about that either, nor should I, nothing wrong with feeling horrible, I'm sure those folks did too, in fact it was my empathy that cause my anger and that is ok by me.

Better days ahead, Joe will be one of your best, if I know my man.
 

Fogdog

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If they start tossing starving families out of their home for Christmas and don't come through with some cash for you folks, I don't think I'd be able to not be pissed. Yesterday I saw miles long lines of people in the cold and dark lined up for breadlines, some were covered in blankets trying to stay warm. It reminded me of the old Soviet Union, but wasn't that bad there. I wasn't in too good a mood about that either, nor should I, nothing wrong with feeling horrible, I'm sure those folks did too, in fact it was my empathy that cause my anger and that is ok by me.

Better days ahead, Joe will be one of your best, if I know my man.
Trump is using the plight of people that he caused to be homeless or food insecure to hurt the people who voted against him. It's not at all different from what he did in Portland this summer. I see those lines as yet another manipulative and angry action by Trump. Yes, I've done what I can for the food banks in our area. Yes, I've contacted my state and local representatives to voice my support for any and all actions they can take to reduce the suffering. But I guess that I don't feel the same hot anger you are experiencing right now because I've done all that I could.

Trump was an effing disaster to this country. I did my part to oppose him. We are near an end. I feel relief in that.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Online posts minimize Covid-19’s deadly impact in US | Fact Check (afp.com)

Online posts minimize Covid-19’s deadly impact in US

Social media posts downplay the impact of the coronavirus pandemic by comparing a partial 2020 US death toll with higher numbers from previous years. But the 2020 statistics cited in the posts are not the final figures, and Covid-19 has killed more than 285,000 people in the country this year.
“Still think the Pandemic is Real?” says a December 4, 2020 Facebook post that includes an image comparing death tolls in the US over a five-year period, which range from 2.7 million in 2015 to 2.9 million in 2019, to 2,487,350 “as of November 16th 2020.”

Another Facebook user who shared the image wrote: “Coronavirus saving more lives than deaths it caused.”

Different versions of the post featuring the same numbers were shared on Facebook, Instagram and Parler, and surged in early December.

The most common iteration was a screenshot from My Christian Daily, a website that included the statistics in a November 20 article complaining about California strip clubs being able to open but not churches.

Although the numbers used in the graph are real, the comparison is misleading.
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Fogdog

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"A fact doesn't have to be true for it to be believed." My favorite right wing quotation and failure of logic, ever.

Once they go down the rabbit hole, they pretty much want to stay there. I am relieved to see that we outnumber them. Not by large enough numbers to make our country safe from them but by enough so that they can't win when we show up to vote.


Right-Wing Social Media Finalizes Its Divorce From Reality
Fox News acknowledged Trump’s loss. Facebook and Twitter cracked down on election lies. But true believers can get their misinformation elsewhere.

When fox news called Arizona for Democrat Joe Biden shortly after the polls closed there on Election Night, right-wing social media erupted in fury. Fox is the most conservative of the nation’s major news outlets, and its aggressive Arizona call—which most other national outlets did not follow for days—left true believers on the right feeling betrayed.

On the social-media app Parler, which has been gaining popularity among supporters of President Donald Trump, posts alleging electoral irregularities mixed with assorted hashtags decrying Fox itself: #BOYCOTTFOXNEWS, #DUMPFOXNEWS, #FAKEFOXNEWS, #FOXNEWSISDEAD, and #FOXNEWSSUCKS.

Throughout Election Day, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube had been cracking down on a flurry of allegations about voter fraud in Arizona; the platforms quickly applied warning labels to new posts containing false or disputed information and reduced the distribution of groups spreading them. In response, pro-Trump influencers exhorted their followers to congregate on Parler, which tells users to “speak freely and express yourself openly, without fear of being ‘deplatformed’ for your views.”

In the hours following the Arizona call, a paranoid conspiracy theory spread rapidly on Parler and in other right-wing online forums: Voters in conservative counties had been given felt-tip pens that supposedly made vote-counting machines reject the ballots that they marked for Trump. The following night, Trump supporters protesting what came to be called #SharpieGate gathered outside the Maricopa County ballot-counting facility in Phoenix. In a development previously unthinkable to liberals who have long dismissed Fox as state media for the Trump administration, the Arizona protesters began chanting, “Fox News sucks!”

Trump’s clear loss in the presidential election has precipitated a deep rift in the right-wing information ecosystem, as media outlets, tech platforms, and individual commentators have been forced to choose between upholding reality and indulging those who insist that the president actually won. On November 7, Fox News was among the major networks that called the election for Biden, its news stories now refer to him as “president-elect,” and even the pro-Trump Fox commentator Tucker Carlson has challenged absurd claims being made by the president’s lawyers. The major social-media platforms—which for years boosted sensational propaganda and Trump-friendly conspiracy theories such as QAnon—have been remarkably active and admirably transparent in preventing the spread of misinformation about the 2020 election. As the president continues to rail against his loss on Twitter, the mainstream social platforms have continued to label wild claims and false allegations and reduce their spread; Facebook has taken down some of the more extreme communities that have sprung up among its users.

Yet reducing the supply of misinformation doesn’t eliminate the demand. Powerful online influencers and the right-wing demi-media—intensely partisan outlets, such as One America News and Newsmax, that amplify ideas that bubble up from internet message boards—have steadfastly reassured Trump’s supporters that he will be reelected, and that the conspiracies against him will be exposed. No doubt seeing an opportunity to pull viewers from a more established rival, One America News Network ran a segment attacking Fox’s Arizona call and declaring the network a “Democrat Party hack.”

lulz

"sharpie pens are why Trump lost in Arizona."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"A fact doesn't have to be true for it to be believed." My favorite right wing quotation and failure of logic, ever.

Once they go down the rabbit hole, they pretty much want to stay there. I am relieved to see that we outnumber them. Not by large enough numbers to make our country safe from them but by enough so that they can't win when we show up to vote.


Right-Wing Social Media Finalizes Its Divorce From Reality
Fox News acknowledged Trump’s loss. Facebook and Twitter cracked down on election lies. But true believers can get their misinformation elsewhere.

When fox news called Arizona for Democrat Joe Biden shortly after the polls closed there on Election Night, right-wing social media erupted in fury. Fox is the most conservative of the nation’s major news outlets, and its aggressive Arizona call—which most other national outlets did not follow for days—left true believers on the right feeling betrayed.

On the social-media app Parler, which has been gaining popularity among supporters of President Donald Trump, posts alleging electoral irregularities mixed with assorted hashtags decrying Fox itself: #BOYCOTTFOXNEWS, #DUMPFOXNEWS, #FAKEFOXNEWS, #FOXNEWSISDEAD, and #FOXNEWSSUCKS.

Throughout Election Day, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube had been cracking down on a flurry of allegations about voter fraud in Arizona; the platforms quickly applied warning labels to new posts containing false or disputed information and reduced the distribution of groups spreading them. In response, pro-Trump influencers exhorted their followers to congregate on Parler, which tells users to “speak freely and express yourself openly, without fear of being ‘deplatformed’ for your views.”

In the hours following the Arizona call, a paranoid conspiracy theory spread rapidly on Parler and in other right-wing online forums: Voters in conservative counties had been given felt-tip pens that supposedly made vote-counting machines reject the ballots that they marked for Trump. The following night, Trump supporters protesting what came to be called #SharpieGate gathered outside the Maricopa County ballot-counting facility in Phoenix. In a development previously unthinkable to liberals who have long dismissed Fox as state media for the Trump administration, the Arizona protesters began chanting, “Fox News sucks!”

Trump’s clear loss in the presidential election has precipitated a deep rift in the right-wing information ecosystem, as media outlets, tech platforms, and individual commentators have been forced to choose between upholding reality and indulging those who insist that the president actually won. On November 7, Fox News was among the major networks that called the election for Biden, its news stories now refer to him as “president-elect,” and even the pro-Trump Fox commentator Tucker Carlson has challenged absurd claims being made by the president’s lawyers. The major social-media platforms—which for years boosted sensational propaganda and Trump-friendly conspiracy theories such as QAnon—have been remarkably active and admirably transparent in preventing the spread of misinformation about the 2020 election. As the president continues to rail against his loss on Twitter, the mainstream social platforms have continued to label wild claims and false allegations and reduce their spread; Facebook has taken down some of the more extreme communities that have sprung up among its users.

Yet reducing the supply of misinformation doesn’t eliminate the demand. Powerful online influencers and the right-wing demi-media—intensely partisan outlets, such as One America News and Newsmax, that amplify ideas that bubble up from internet message boards—have steadfastly reassured Trump’s supporters that he will be reelected, and that the conspiracies against him will be exposed. No doubt seeing an opportunity to pull viewers from a more established rival, One America News Network ran a segment attacking Fox’s Arizona call and declaring the network a “Democrat Party hack.”

lulz

"sharpie pens are why Trump lost in Arizona."
Disinformation works both ways and these clowns are particularly vulnerable. How about Trump for senate? :lol: Get him to force Marco Rubio to resign and have DeSantis appoint him to his seat, a little gift for Mitch. Next he goes for Mitch's job cause Mitch isn't gonna tell Donald what to do, he is the natural leader of the senate and could do a far better job than Mitch! It will give him something to do while they decide his self pardon and would be like throwing a hand grenade in Mitch's lap.
 

hanimmal

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A recent report by the San Francisco Chronicle

“Lincoln is one of dozens of historical figures who, according to a school district naming committee, lived a life so stained with racism, oppression or human rights violations, they do not deserve to have their name on a school building,” the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
I tried to find this article, but the only hit I got was to this website.
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Abraham Lincoln didn’t do enough for black lives, according to militant proponents of the woke revolution.

In October, the San Francisco Unified School District School Names Advisory Committee suggested a list of school names to be replaced in the city. On that list was a school named after Lincoln, the Great Emancipator.

In just a few years, the discussion about history and monuments has gone from whether we should keep Confederate monuments to erasing the president who orchestrated the Confederacy’s destruction.

Regarding Lincoln, it seems the woke and John Wilkes Booth are now in alignment.

The left is actively working to undermine the integrity of our elections. Read the plan to stop them now. Learn more now >>


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— Miles is thankful Smith (@IVMiles) December 15, 2020
This isn’t a slippery slope, it’s a freefall without a parachute.

A recent report by the San Francisco Chronicle that has been making the rounds illuminates just how bad things have become in some education circles.

“Lincoln is one of dozens of historical figures who, according to a school district naming committee, lived a life so stained with racism, oppression or human rights violations, they do not deserve to have their name on a school building,” the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Part of the criticism of Lincoln is about how he treated Native Americans badly, particularly the Sioux tribe. This has always been an unfair charge, but he was simply added to the renaming committee’s list without debate.

According to the committee chairman, this isn’t the only reason for abandoning Lincoln.

“Lincoln, like the presidents before him and most after, did not show through policy or rhetoric that black lives ever mattered to them outside of human capital and as casualties or wealth building,” Jeremiah Jefferies, the chairman of the renaming committee and a first-grade teacher, told the Chronicle.

Lincoln conducted a war, signed the Emancipation Proclamation, and got shot in the head for black lives, but this wasn’t enough to keep him from being unceremoniously ditched by modern social justice warriors.

If Lincoln doesn’t qualify as doing enough for black lives, then who does?

I wrote about this whole San Francisco schools travesty when their list was released. The extensive criteria was clearly designed to appeal to the most fervently woke:
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  • Anyone directly involved in the colonization of people.
  • Slave owners or participants in enslavement.
  • Perpetuators of genocide or slavery.
  • Those who exploit workers/people.
  • Those who directly oppressed or abused women, children, queer, or transgender people.
  • Those connected to any human rights or environmental abuses.
  • Those who are known racists and/or white supremacists and/or espoused racist beliefs.
The bottom line is that the war on history is ultimately about political power and iconoclasm. It’s about tearing down 1776 and replacing it with the narrative of the 1619 Project. The message has little to do with actual history, it’s simply: “Do what we say, or you will be smashed and erased.”

Symbols of opposition will be torn down. You must accept our truth, or else.

Targeting Feinstein sends a clear message that the revolution shall be subject to no law. It’s a warning to public officials not to stop or fix the damage done by mobs and vandals to statues, monuments, and public property.

This is entirely consistent with the ideology of leading “anti-racists,” like Ibram X. Kendi. The world is divided into anti-racists and racists. Every act, every decision, and every person must be put through this lens. Absolute anarchy and absolute tyranny are perfectly acceptable if one remains on what woke intellectuals and officials deem the “right side of history.”

The idea that canceling Lincoln, or any of the other people on the San Francisco Unified School District list, will lead to tolerance or a better society is a joke. If anything, it teaches students to be ruthlessly intolerant, to be utterly incapable of understanding different perspectives and the limitations of human nature.

Perhaps this is the point.

But human civilization wasn’t built by angels, and it certainly wasn’t built by revolutionary Marxists, who have been much more successful at tearing down in a tide of inhuman carnage than building up.

Unfortunately, absurd militant wokeness is not just confined to San Francisco, it’s coming to schools and institutions around the country.

No wonder Americans are increasingly worried about the rise of socialism.
Looks like it is written by another Heritage Foundation propagandist.
I tried to go to the 'San Fransico Chronicle' article link, but it has a instant paywall so I can't actually read the article to see what it has to say.

I did find something about this on the Daily Mail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9055391/San-Francisco-rename-Lincoln-High-School-didnt-black-lives-mattered-him.html
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The title 'The War on History' that the propagandist writer used to describe this story seems pretty slanted to turn it into angry clickbait, because it is through a more complete understanding of history that explains why these schools want to change their names.

Lincoln's place in history is not altered because schools want to have a different name.

What this article is more about is linking people who are outraged by these changes to 'them' being 'Leftists' which through further propaganda gets turned into 'Democrats'. Which heats up and solidifies the bubble of disinformation in their troll comment section:
I was curious though, because after looking into this a bit, I never remember actually seeing the Lincoln 'Emancipation' statue. I was surprised how many places have one, but more I was pretty surprised at how fucked up it actually depicts a black man. Im guessing they never asked black people how they thought about it before putting in how ever much of our tax dollars into making them all.

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