Twister T4 users.

Looking to buy this trimmer and wet trim with it. any pros/cons any of you can tell me about before i go through with this? loss of smell, trichomes? do i need to spray the buds while going in? would love to talk about it with someone experienced. thanks in advance!

I had the latest model last year from Twister. I got the dry tumbler. It had variable suction to the bed knife, and made some very good looking nugs!. However!.. It does suck all the trichs off of your buds. We had a few patients give us feedback on it, and they preferred (as most people do), hand trimmed. It's hard to beat, but then again... it's hard!.. very time consuming, but the end product is superior. After that run, we sold it.

DoubleAtotheRON said:

I had the latest model last year from Twister. I got the dry tumbler. It had variable suction to the bed knife, and made some very good looking nugs!. However!.. It does suck all the trichs off of your buds. We had a few patients give us feedback on it, and they preferred (as most people do), hand trimmed. It's hard to beat, but then again... it's hard!.. very time consuming, but the end product is superior. After that run, we sold it.

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ive heard wet trimming is the way to go with the twister, i might go that route. did you guys switch to hand trimming or another machine? it just doesnt make sense to me ina business perspective to pay out a huge chunk of my profits to trimmers, its like they would be a partner with no investment.. saw microscope pics on another guys post who wet trimmed and his nugs trichomes were intact completely. did you ever try to wet trim?

Nafydad420 said:

ive heard wet trimming is the way to go with the twister, i might go that route. did you guys switch to hand trimming or another machine? it just doesnt make sense to me ina business perspective to pay out a huge chunk of my profits to trimmers, its like they would be a partner with no investment.. saw microscope pics on another guys post who wet trimmed and his nugs trichomes were intact completely. did you ever try to wet trim?

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We would wet trim it by hand on the stem rough (nothing pretty), hang to dry for a week, then buck off the stem and run it through the Twister. For our size op, we have about a $3K budget for trimmers per harvest. We may look into a GrowBroz 215 for final dry trimming tho. We're still perfecting our process with every grow. We've had a pretty good crew that will trim for $8 hr cash paid daily.

I used a t4 for wet trimming for a long time.

Pros

Save a ton of money and time. I literally would have 15-20 lbs on dry racks in a day with half the trim crew.

Everything is trimmed up right. Often if your paying a trim crew a ton of cash on the wood, you’ll end up going back through stuff yourself after the fact because people suck at trimming.

Cons

Fucks up your harvest pretty good. Back in the day when folks didn’t give a fuck and needed lbs bad it didn’t matter. Today my main broker won’t buy packs that have been through the t4.

Serious particulates in the air. If you have any kind of breathing issues it will fuck you up. My buddy was in the hospital with a lung infection the day after we did a big round for another grower.

Loud as hell.

Most of my crew are still using it only with the dry trim tunnel. My wife will be trimming a big room next Saturday where they’ll be running one. The dry tunnel does pretty good work and I would use it but you do have to prep by hang drying etc..

nurrgle said:

I used a t4 for wet trimming for a long time.

Pros

Save a ton of money and time. I literally would have 15-20 lbs on dry racks in a day with half the trim crew.

Everything is trimmed up right. Often if your paying a trim crew a ton of cash on the wood, you’ll end up going back through stuff yourself after the fact because people suck at trimming.

Cons

Fucks up your harvest pretty good. Back in the day when folks didn’t give a fuck and needed lbs bad it didn’t matter. Today my main broker won’t buy packs that have been through the t4.

Serious particulates in the air. If you have any kind of breathing issues it will fuck you up. My buddy was in the hospital with a lung infection the day after we did a big round for another grower.

Loud as hell.

Most of my crew are still using it only with the dry trim tunnel. My wife will be trimming a big room next Saturday where they’ll be running one. The dry tunnel does pretty good work and I would use it but you do have to prep by hang drying etc..

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Oh yeah!.... We ran this thing in the house at first before we added on to the building (processing room), and trichs coated the air intake filters, ceiling fan blades, .... that shit was everywhere.

nurrgle said:

I used a t4 for wet trimming for a long time.

Pros

Save a ton of money and time. I literally would have 15-20 lbs on dry racks in a day with half the trim crew.

Everything is trimmed up right. Often if your paying a trim crew a ton of cash on the wood, you’ll end up going back through stuff yourself after the fact because people suck at trimming.

Cons

Fucks up your harvest pretty good. Back in the day when folks didn’t give a fuck and needed lbs bad it didn’t matter. Today my main broker won’t buy packs that have been through the t4.

Serious particulates in the air. If you have any kind of breathing issues it will fuck you up. My buddy was in the hospital with a lung infection the day after we did a big round for another grower.

Loud as hell.

Most of my crew are still using it only with the dry trim tunnel. My wife will be trimming a big room next Saturday where they’ll be running one. The dry tunnel does pretty good work and I would use it but you do have to prep by hang drying etc..

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are you using the trim colector? i heard the leaf collector does spray shit around but the trim colector doesnt. never used it though, just basing off my research

nurrgle said:

Fucks up your harvest pretty good. Back in the day when folks didn’t give a fuck and needed lbs bad it didn’t matter. Today my main broker won’t buy packs that have been through the t4.

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Exactly. My guy comes through the state a couple times a month looking to gather up 250 units. He refuses weed thats been through a trimmer, he inspects with a loupe and if theres a bunch of busted trichomes he passes, even if offered a discount. Quality has to be top notch for him to take it back east. If the trim is lacking he passes as well. Bag appeal has to be 10/10.

Back in the day anything flew, larf, shitty trim, machine trim. Now days people have choices and many won't buy stuff thats not premium.

Had a T4 and ended up selling it after fucking up a few runs with it. Was hard as fuck to sell the last one.

Renfro said:

Exactly. My guy comes through the state a couple times a month looking to gather up 250 units. He refuses weed thats been through a trimmer, he inspects with a loupe and if theres a bunch of busted trichomes he passes, even if offered a discount. Quality has to be top notch for him to take it back east. If the trim is lacking he passes as well. Bag appeal has to be 10/10.

Back in the day anything flew, larf, shitty trim, machine trim. Now days people have choices and many won't buy stuff thats not premium.

Had a T4 and ended up selling it after fucking up a few runs with it. Was hard as fuck to sell the last one.

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what was your process with the T4?

Nafydad420 said:

what was your process with the T4?

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I ran it wet. Defan the buds, buck them off the stems, run them through the T4, gently laid out to dry on newspaper lined bread trays. Looked great until you got a scope on it and saw all the damaged trichome heads on the raised surfaces. Down in the nooks and crannies everything was fine.

I tried the lube the drum with hemp seed oil and whatnot, it kinda helped a little but only for a very short time. I also didn't like the fact that the oil would be on the flower.

I also tried using the dry trim drum, had one of those as well. You really lose trichomes then. They even sold a thing that collects the trichomes out of the trim so you could press it for rosin.

If your buyers don't know the difference between machine trim and hand trim then they will be fine with the product unless they like a super clean manicured flower. There are trimmers out there that get a really close trim but they roll the buds around more and the trichomes suffer.

Whatever happened to the day when leaving the sugar leaves was a good thing? They protected the buds trichomes underneath...

Oh well, it is what it is.

Got one gal out here that when she is available will hand manicure 8 - 10 pounds a day. Freaking insane.

im in Oklahoma currently running a commercial setup, its only been legal a little over a year and the market is craving product. so i wont have a difficult time getting rid of product thats for sure. does it atleast do a good trim job web trimming? trying to ssve some money for the first few harvests this go around. ill take a microscope to the buds after. i just want to make sure it looks good. what was your environment for the dry? i was going to go on drying racks at like 65%RH with little to no airflow. there are zero hand trimmers around here that could do numbers like that.. everyone of them ive seen suck ass, no way im hand trimming 80 lbs by myself. and the hand trimmers around here hand rape the buds anyway.

Nafydad420 said:

im in Oklahoma currently running a commercial setup, its only been legal a little over a year and the market is craving product. so i wont have a difficult time getting rid of product thats for sure. does it atleast do a good trim job web trimming? trying to ssve some money for the first few harvests this go around. ill take a microscope to the buds after. i just want to make sure it looks good. what was your environment for the dry? i was going to go on drying racks at like 65%RH with little to no airflow. there are zero hand trimmers around here that could do numbers like that.. everyone of them ive seen suck ass, no way im hand trimming 80 lbs by myself. and the hand trimmers around here hand rape the buds anyway.

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What part of the State are you from? You can DM me that info. I’m here in OK as well.