Two cops got shot in Ferguson last night

ttystikk said:
They showed up at my door because of smell complaints from neighbors... according to them, many complaints. That's a violation of duly enacted city ordinance- and that too is legitimate; I don't want to reek out my neighbors if they don't like it; they are perfectly within their rights to enjoy smell free air in their home.

My carbon filter is old, And my trim room window was wide open, AND my friends and I smoked a lot of weed. I fixed these issues and things should be good going forward.

We all gotta get along, right?
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Total BS if you had a house full of 3 pack a day cigarette smokers living next door and complained about the smell the cops would laugh at you..even with changing laws and attitudes..your a pot smoker/grower and police have decades of mental conditioning against you.
 
UncleBuck said:
yes it can, shit for brains. even here in colorado if it's bad enough.

stop giving people shitty advice.
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In Massachusetts the court have ruled the smell alone is NOT a reason of suspicion for cause of action, even while driving. We're only decrim and med here. Probably a state to state ordinance.
 
UncleBuck said:
or they both got laid last night.

or they didn't care.

or they knew about the affirmative defense.

coulda been a million reasons. giving up your rights is almost never the right thing to do.
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Or they are waiting to come back the 4th or 5th time to find those "little" infraction that you thought they overlooked and you dropped your guard are now a full blown cluster F...I don't trust cops..
 
WeedFreak78 said:
Total BS if you had a house full of 3 pack a day cigarette smokers living next door and complained about the smell the cops would laugh at you..even with changing laws and attitudes..your a pot smoker/grower and police have decades of mental conditioning against you.
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What part of this is BS?
 
ttystikk said:
What part of this is BS?
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The part about being investigated because of smell. If you were a heavy tobacco smoker the cops would have dismissed your neighbors complaints on the first phone call. You're still being criminalized because of your, now legal, lifestyle.
 
 
ttystikk said:
Police have broad discretion in their jobs, for many very good reasons. Had I refused to let them in the first night, they would have (reasonably or not) expected that I HAD something to hide and they would have treated me accordingly.

After all, I have several pounds of product in jars just sitting on my desk. They COULD easily have deduced I was preparing to distribute it illegally and charged me with same. A charge is not guilt- but I would then have been in the position of having to explain in court why I had so much. That's expensive and time consuming and fraught with its own risks.

Instead, I told them I had nothing to hide and let them look around. That kind of trust paid benefits.

If you were the guy behind the badge, there's no way you'd treat those two situations the same. Why not? Because (McCarthyist as it might sound) people with nothing to hide don't act like they have something to hide. Becoming antagonistic would have invited them to do the same, and they have ALL the power in this situation.

If that's not explanation enough, then I wish you luck in your next traffic stop... cuz you're gonna need it.
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I once was in a situation where 2 detectives were walking by my friends basement apt. in a large building, and smelled the reefer we had just started to smoke. Knock on the door, "Who is it"? Police was the answer, and "Oh shit", was whispered around the room by the 5 of us, with the guy holding the oz turning yellow, while looking for somewhere to toss it (he ended up sitting on it)
My friend opens the door, and I hear him say " Hello Detective Monahan, and how are you doing on this fine day?"(some shit like that) ( small city and we knew all the cops, and they knew us ( 18 year old stoners).
They both enter the room, and say's "Let's make this easy and give up the weed".
Me, who had 3 hits of acid in the change pocket in my jeans, jump up and say's " You can search me, I don't have anything", all the while praying that the bluff will work. He then pats me down, doesn't feel anything, and say's "ok, next". One by one he goes around the room, searching everyone. He finally gets to the last guy, who had been sitting on the bag of weed the whole time, and say's " OK, your turn, stand up" My friend say's "mother fucker", gets up and hands the lid to the cop. Then I heard the magical words that would ruin anyone's day, "you are all under arrest, and you have the right to remain silent"(I'm sure you know the rest). At that point I politely ask if I could go take a shit, before I crap in my pants (no bullshit). The other dick say's "wait a minute", and the other says "let him go, I searched him already" I walk calmly to the bathroom, close the door, and proceed to rip the acid out of my pocket, and flush it down the toilet.
Anyway, I firmly believe that if we were not so polite to the detectives, they would have ripped the apt apart (finding the other 2 zips and a 1/4 oz of hash that my friend had in his bedroom), and probably the acid (that would have been bad). They took us all down to the station, booked us for simple possession of less that an ounce, let us all walk with summonses, I went to court 2 weeks later with a friend who was an attorney, got a $200 fine and 1 year probation.
Moral of story, be VERY nice to the police, especially if you are holding, because if you piss them off, they will fuck you hard.
 
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