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OldMedUser

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I have really dry air and use a temp/rh controller on my exhaust fan so it only kicks in when the RH or temp gets high enough to turn it on. Still too low most of the time so I just feed less so they don't end up overnuting themselves with all the extra RO water they drink when the air is dry. Toxic salts buildup is nasty.

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SaHt420

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I have really dry air and use a temp/rh controller on my exhaust fan so it only kicks in when the RH or temp gets high enough to turn it on. Still too low most of the time so I just feed less so they don't end up overnuting themselves with all the extra RO water they drink when the air is dry. Toxic salts buildup is nasty.

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Yea I’m hoping to stay away from that issue with organics just need to learn to read my planta better plants
 

Sticky Bandit

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I have really dry air and use a temp/rh controller on my exhaust fan so it only kicks in when the RH or temp gets high enough to turn it on. Still too low most of the time so I just feed less so they don't end up overnuting themselves with all the extra RO water they drink when the air is dry. Toxic salts buildup is nasty.

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Does it still exhaust enough to replenish the CO2, is a humidifier an option?
 
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OldMedUser

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Does it still exhaust enough to replenish the CO2, is a humidifier an option?
If conditions are such that my exhaust fan is not being switched on at all I'll burn my little DIY alcohol lamp to supply lots of CO2. Most of the time I just use that when I flip to flower and let my temps run up to 90F during the massive growth spurt during the stretch period.

It also depends on how much space is being taken up by plants so when the room is fairly full I'll add CO2 fairly regularly.

For a 12 hour run it only burns about 100ml of methyl hydrate I get at the hardware store for around $12 for 4L. My grow room is 7x9x6.5'h so 410cf and a candle supplies enough CO2 to keep it at 1500+ppm as long as the exhaust fan doesn't run.

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SaHt420

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Should I flip to flower? I can’t really tuck the back side anymore unless I start weaving the branches under the net. I’ve never filled a whole scrog before or should I fill it out a little more? I know most of the time you train them earlier under the scrog so mine are in all crazy different directions image.jpg
 

OldMedUser

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Should I flip to flower? I can’t really tuck the back side anymore unless I start weaving the branches under the net. I’ve never filled a whole scrog before or should I fill it out a little more? I know most of the time you train them earlier under the scrog so mine are in all crazy different directions
I've done a bunch of ScroGs and the branches that grow off the edges can be carefully bent around to aim back into the middle and fill empty spaces. I always used short pieces of twist tie to attach to the top of the screen so branches could be relocated while vegging and whole branches could be cut off at harvest time.

I used metal fencing with even large holes like yours and would bridge open spaces with twist tie off a roll to be able to tie grow tips to as they crossed the gaps. Even go over other branches and as side branches got longer tie them down too so I wouldn't have spikes sticking up later. When I flipped to flower only a couple of inches of each grow tip would be out past the last bit of twist tie holding down the branch but at the end some colas could be 8" or more above the screen. As the branches get trained to grow horizontally you only need a few bits of twist tie to hold the last 6" or so of each branch to the screen. I'd just remove ones further back to the front.

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SaHt420

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I've done a bunch of ScroGs and the branches that grow off the edges can be carefully bent around to aim back into the middle and fill empty spaces. I always used short pieces of twist tie to attach to the top of the screen so branches could be relocated while vegging and whole branches could be cut off at harvest time.

I used metal fencing with even large holes like yours and would bridge open spaces with twist tie off a roll to be able to tie grow tips to as they crossed the gaps. Even go over other branches and as side branches got longer tie them down too so I wouldn't have spikes sticking up later. When I flipped to flower only a couple of inches of each grow tip would be out past the last bit of twist tie holding down the branch but at the end some colas could be 8" or more above the screen. As the branches get trained to grow horizontally you only need a few bits of twist tie to hold the last 6" or so of each branch to the screen. I'd just remove ones further back to the front.

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Understood so just keep on tucking! And remove the whole branches on the edge growing over already?
 

OldMedUser

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Understood so just keep on tucking! And remove the whole branches on the edge growing over already?
I never tucked as I explained and just let the ends of branches that grew out to the edges of the screen get a few inches long so they could be carefully bent around to grow back toward the inside of the screen. As they begin to stick out you just bend them a little each day so they make a half circle and then the tip can be tied to the wire and just keep growing. When tied to the top instead of tucking you can reposition a branch to cover a bare area of the screen. If you tuck under then that branch is stuck in that position forever after it gets longer.

When I was doing DWC ScroGs in Rubbermaid tubs each branch could grow 3" a day. I had my tubs on wheeled dollies so I could turn them around while sitting on a pail and it only took 10 min a day to keep things tidy.

You want it to look like this when it's all budded up nice. White Rhino X Train Wreck.

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SaHt420

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I never tucked as I explained and just let the ends of branches that grew out to the edges of the screen get a few inches long so they could be carefully bent around to grow back toward the inside of the screen. As they begin to stick out you just bend them a little each day so they make a half circle and then the tip can be tied to the wire and just keep growing. When tied to the top instead of tucking you can reposition a branch to cover a bare area of the screen. If you tuck under then that branch is stuck in that position forever after it gets longer.

When I was doing DWC ScroGs in Rubbermaid tubs each branch could grow 3" a day. I had my tubs on wheeled dollies so I could turn them around while sitting on a pail and it only took 10 min a day to keep things tidy.

You want it to look like this when it's all budded up nice. White Rhino X Train Wreck.

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That’s beautiful I think I understand! Next run will be much cleaner!
 

OldMedUser

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That’s beautiful I think I understand! Next run will be much cleaner!
Yours is doing OK. Needs to be filled in more and just make sure you keep the growing tips close to the screen and even after flipping to flower tie down any that stretch up above others as even if they are close to the screen once the buds start stacking up to form colas on top they can get 7 or 8" taller too.

You just want the canopy nice and even on top so they all get good strong light while flowering. And prune off small branches and junk under the canopy as they will just suck energy that the tops need to grow bigger buds. All you'll get from branches and even buds under the canopy are little popcorn buds that are a PITA to trim up and not worth the effort. Anything smaller than dime size I just snip off anything that doesn't have sugar on it and toss the popcorn and sugar trim into a pile to make into oil. A lot of the small stuff that I would toss out I let dry and run it thru my keif screen to scavenge the last bits of trichomes they have on them. Big fan leaves either get fed to the chickens or tossed in the compost.

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SaHt420

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Yours is doing OK. Needs to be filled in more and just make sure you keep the growing tips close to the screen and even after flipping to flower tie down any that stretch up above others as even if they are close to the screen once the buds start stacking up to form colas on top they can get 7 or 8" taller too.

You just want the canopy nice and even on top so they all get good strong light while flowering. And prune off small branches and junk under the canopy as they will just suck energy that the tops need to grow bigger buds. All you'll get from branches and even buds under the canopy are little popcorn buds that are a PITA to trim up and not worth the effort. Anything smaller than dime size I just snip off anything that doesn't have sugar on it and toss the popcorn and sugar trim into a pile to make into oil. A lot of the small stuff that I would toss out I let dry and run it thru my keif screen to scavenge the last bits of trichomes they have on them. Big fan leaves either get fed to the chickens or tossed in the compost.

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Thank! I wish I had livestock to feed my compost! I will definitely keep those tops tied down!
 
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