Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Serapis said:
Here is an article from Dear Jorge dated in 1999....

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The illustration clearly shows topping to produce a 4 main stem plant. Did Jorge steal this discovery from you? Hell, he doesn't even claim ownership, he is just passing along an old technique....
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1999, eh?

Everything Jorge authors, "writes", is plagarized, witness his Bible in which I and other OG members contributed ALL of the material that went into that book. He made his money off our works, which is OK. He makes no bones about it but there was quite an uproar when he joined OG and asked/told folks what his plans were for his next book after getting the blessing of admin, oldpink. Witness my Spin-Out technique starting on page 67 of the book which has some incorrect information. He said that the roots grow close to the paint and then turn up. I don't know where he got his info, but it is wrong. It's a great book, but there is a lot of faulty info in it.

UB

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sso

sso

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well, couldnt you then write a better book? having progressed since then?

btw, im new here, but looks to me, that there is a certain group here,that bitches and whines and objects and bullies and trolls at every opportunity.

if you participate, you are a part of it..

ignore, the bliss of the internet.. (well, unless ive got popcorn and or feel like fucking with a troll, rare tbough, its very boring due to the trolls limited nature)
 
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

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sso said:
well, couldnt you then write a better book? having progressed since then?

btw, im new here, but looks to me, that there is a certain group here,that bitches and whines and objects and bullies and trolls at every opportunity.

if you participate, you are a part of it..

ignore, the bliss of the internet.. (well, unless ive got popcorn and or feel like fucking with a troll, rare tbough, its very boring due to the trolls limited nature)
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I was thinking the same thing, UB should just ignore the trolls, This thread is so far off base, I don't see what any of this accomplishes.
We are here to learn about growing, not bickering about who discovered what.
 
sso

sso

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which you cant prove anyway. not really, not conclusively. you might be the discoverer of this or not, does not matter, its a cool technique, will probably be remembered and used long after whoever invented it is forgotten.

so, which is the object, being the biggest dick or helping people to grow (learning yourself as well) and being good enough at it, that you might make a buck out of it.

or at least help alot of people to grow, thereby overgrowing the government and helping yourself too.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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sso said:
which you cant prove anyway. not really, not conclusively. you might be the discoverer of this or not, does not matter, its a cool technique, will probably be remembered and used long after whoever invented it is forgotten.

so, which is the object, being the biggest dick or helping people to grow (learning yourself as well) and being good enough at it, that you might make a buck out of it.

or at least help alot of people to grow, thereby overgrowing the government and helping yourself too.
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I'm not in this for the money or the notoriety, don't need either/or nor am I interested in writing another cannabis grow book. I have a passion for growing plants FWIW. Entertainment value only......
 
sso

sso

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Uncle Ben said:
I'm not in this for the money or the notoriety, don't need either/or nor am I interested in writing another cannabis grow book. I have a passion for growing plants FWIW. Entertainment value only......
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nice.

well, even the argument is certainly bit entertaining.
but perhaps in the light of teaching, you should start a new thread specifically for that fight.

cause there is a LOT of useful info thats completely lost in 350+ pages of arguments.
 
sso

sso

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besides, i was thinking bit oldfashioned, why write a book when you have the internet, instant connection to the world and fewer and fewer get left out.
 
The Cryptkeeper

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sso said:
nice.

well, even the argument is certainly bit entertaining.
but perhaps in the light of teaching, you should start a new thread specifically for that fight.

cause there is a LOT of useful info thats completely lost in 350+ pages of arguments.
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Change your page settings to 50 posts a page and you'll only have 70 pages of arguments.
 
collective gardener

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Uncle Ben said:
I did invent this topping technique. If you can prove otherwise, then do so, or shut the fuck up dlively. You're just being a petty little prick.

To whom it might concern, if you have nothing to contribute but FUD, then spin your bullshit elsewhere, not in my thread.

UB
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This is your post Ben. Don't you start hacking on others for messing with your thread when you will see it was right on track until YOU posted this. YOU are the spin doc, YOU sir. Everyone was fine until you wrote this..."shut the f**k up" "you're being a little prick"...these are YOUR words, may man. What do you expect people to do when you call them names and insult them? Really, what? This thread is over half petty arguing, and if you look at it, every single negative string is started by you. YOU, may friend. I'm so sick and tired of you starting a shit storm and then claiming that everyone's out to get you.


And, for the record, the first sentence IS you claiming to have invented this topping technique, so don't go off and say you didn't say it. It's right there.

So, basically, here's how this one went. You made a false claim. (that you invented this topping technique).
Other people called you on it.
You lashed out at them, calling them names, but never adressing the issue.
You thern claim to have never said that you invented it, and want everyone else to get on topic.

I gave you an out with my post saying that maybe you were just playing around when you said you invented it. Maybe you should just come clean, rather than recant.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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collective gardener said:
This is your post Ben. Don't you start hacking on others for messing with your thread when you will see it was right on track until YOU posted this. YOU are the spin doc, YOU sir. Everyone was fine until you wrote this..."shut the f**k up" "you're being a little prick"...these are YOUR words, may man. What do you expect people to do when you call them names and insult them? Really, what? This thread is over half petty arguing, and if you look at it, every single negative string is started by you. YOU, may friend. I'm so sick and tired of you starting a shit storm and then claiming that everyone's out to get you.


And, for the record, the first sentence IS you claiming to have invented this topping technique, so don't go off and say you didn't say it. It's right there.

So, basically, here's how this one went. You made a false claim. (that you invented this topping technique).
Other people called you on it.
You lashed out at them, calling them names, but never adressing the issue.
You thern claim to have never said that you invented it, and want everyone else to get on topic.

I gave you an out with my post saying that maybe you were just playing around when you said you invented it. Maybe you should just come clean, rather than recant.
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Are you through? Fine, now get the hell out of and stay out of my thread.

UB
 
Life Goes On

Life Goes On

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dlively11 said:
Are your pants on fire ? You might want to check. Your ability to lash out with insults at the slightest hint of being threatened, equals your ability to decieve. I just dont get you UB, so much anger in your posts.
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Like I said before the reason behind the anger is brought about by idiots like yourself. We get angry cuz your on this thread trying to start shit. Was there any arguments prior to you and Serapis chiming in with your two cents? Fuck no! Maybe a little bickering here and there but nothing like this 3 page argument that is going on. And all of it could have been prevented had you and Serapiss minded your own damn business! So leave and there will be no anger and everyone will go on happy learning the info UB puts out there.
 
Life Goes On

Life Goes On

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collective gardener said:
That was rude and uncalled for. You can have a discussion like an adult. Your point, I believe, is that it doesn't matter who invented it, you're happy to have UB here to help you learn. Is this correct? That's all need be said. I typically don't report, but this one is below this website.

I, too was uncomfortable with UB claiming to invent 4 branch topping. Mainly, it made me sad because I know that many of you beginning growers look to him for advice and I don't like to see him tarnish his credibility beyond repair. I tried to address him with some levity, in an effort to give him an out. UB and I have had our differences, and will continue to do so. It would not break my heart if he was banned, but since, for now, he's here I do my best to keep it light because we do find ourselves in the same thread at times. You, sir, are only hurting UB's reputation by making it clear that his followers must resort to name calling as well. Furthermore, you have clogged his thread with name calling and insults, when there are many novice gardeners like yourself who depend on this thread to keep their garden alive.
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Then to keep it plain and simple LEAVE! Clearly NO ONE values your opinion on this thread and us "new" growers are defending him so CLEARLY we don't give a rats ass about UB's credibility. As I said before the fact of the matter is UB is the ONLY person who took the initiative to make the information widely available. Hence the reason his thread is the one that pops up first when you search for topping methods. So instead of arguing with me why don't you do what everybody wants and bounce. Leave UB and his threads alone and everyone will be happy am I wrong? I don't see how there can be anger with no arguments?
 
Life Goes On

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Serapis said:
Didn't you already apologize once for your outbursts and rudeness in this thread, and cluttering it up as you said? Yet you are going to continue to trash the thread with your bull shit personal attacks? I'm on fucking topic, discussing pruning and topping, which just so fucking happens to the be the damn subject of this thread. You on the other hand aren't on topic and are making fucking personal attacks........ You know your come get me threat? Why not just let me know the rest of that addy?
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Yes I did. But correct me if I'm wrong you are the one who continues to press the issue no? If you don't like my insults LEAVE! As long as you keep pressing this stupid pointless issue that you initiated then I will keep insulting. LEAVE and everything will go back to normal and everyone will be happy. How bout that? I can be an adult if you can but if you can't come to an adult based agreement to leave this thread and it's entirety alone and I will stop insulting then you sir are the issue and I will continue to fire back with whatever need be until you leave.
 
Burger Boss

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collective gardener said:
This is your post Ben. Don't you start hacking on others for messing with your thread when you will see it was right on track until YOU posted this. YOU are the spin doc, YOU sir. Everyone was fine until you wrote this..."shut the f**k up" "you're being a little prick"...these are YOUR words, may man. What do you expect people to do when you call them names and insult them? Really, what? This thread is over half petty arguing, and if you look at it, every single negative string is started by you. YOU, may friend. I'm so sick and tired of you starting a shit storm and then claiming that everyone's out to get you.


And, for the record, the first sentence IS you claiming to have invented this topping technique, so don't go off and say you didn't say it. It's right there.

So, basically, here's how this one went. You made a false claim. (that you invented this topping technique).
Other people called you on it.
You lashed out at them, calling them names, but never adressing the issue.
You thern claim to have never said that you invented it, and want everyone else to get on topic.

I gave you an out with my post saying that maybe you were just playing around when you said you invented it. Maybe you should just come clean, rather than recant.
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OK, let the "pettyness" FLY: (seems like that's where this BS is destined anyway!).
FYI, "come clean" and "recant" mean the same thing; basically MEA CULPA.
In my humble opinion, Uncle Ben has NOTHING to "recant" or "come clean" about. No by God, I see nothing to bring about a mea culpa here. What I DO see are a couple of obsessive, petty Pit Bull's who failed obedience school. Now SIT! dammit....................BB
 
Serapis

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This is a public thread discussing topping my friend. YOU started the shit storm, I was on topic..... You haven't made post one on topic my friend.... If youn have nothing about the subject to say or contribute, perhaps you are better off saying nothing?

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Like I said before the reason behind the anger is brought about by idiots like yourself. We get angry cuz your on this thread trying to start shit. Was there any arguments prior to you and Serapis chiming in with your two cents? Fuck no! Maybe a little bickering here and there but nothing like this 3 page argument that is going on. And all of it could have been prevented had you and Serapiss minded your own damn business! So leave and there will be no anger and everyone will go on happy learning the info UB puts out there.
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