US six-country travel ban takes effect

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Washington (AFP) - US President Donald Trump's ban on refugees and travelers from six mainly Muslim countries went into effect late Thursday, after a Supreme Court decision allowed it to go forward following a five-month battle with rights groups.

The Trump administration says the temporary ban is necessary to block terrorists from entering the country, but immigrant advocates charge that it illegally singles out Muslims.

The 90-day ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen, and a 120-day ban on refugees, will allow exceptions for people with "close family relationships" in the United States.

But activists said the government has defined that too narrowly, excluding relationships with grandparents and grandchildren, aunts and uncles and others.

And many were concerned about a possibly chaotic rollout of enforcement of the ban, like that in January when it was first announced.

Immigration rights activists and lawyers were waiting to help arrivals at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport and other airports to be sure those from the six countries with valid US visas were allowed in after the ban went into effect at 8 pm Thursday Eastern time (0000 GMT Friday).

The Department of Homeland Security, which was heavily criticized for mishandling many arrivals when the ban was first attempted in January, promised a smooth rollout this time.

It stressed that anyone with a valid visa issued before the ban begins would still be admitted, and that all authorized refugees booked for travel before July 6 will also be allowed.

"We expect business as usual at the ports of entry starting at 8 pm tonight," said a DHS official. "Our people are well prepared for this."

The Trump administration insists the ban was necessary to protect the country from terror threats, and to give immigration authorities more time to tighten vetting of travelers and refugees.

"As recent events have shown, we are living in a very dangerous time, and the US government needs every available tool to prevent terrorists from entering the country and committing acts of bloodshed and violence," a senior administration official told reporters Thursday.

- Trump claims political victory -

But implementing it, even with exceptions, was also claimed as a political victory by Trump, after federal appeals courts twice blocked his order saying it violated constitutional protections of religion and overshot his own presidential powers.

Immigrant rights groups and Democrats in Congress continued to label Trump's order "illegal" and said the exemptions provided in a Supreme Court ruling on Monday remained unfair.

According to guidelines issued by the State Department, people with "close family relationships" would be exempt from the ban. It defined that to include parents, spouses, children, sons- and daughters-in-law, siblings and step- and half-siblings.

But "close family" does not include grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, brothers-in-laws and sisters-in-law, fiances and any other "extended" family members, the guidelines say.

People with formal relationships with a US entity -- who have for instance been offered a job or been accepted to study or lecture at a university -- will also qualify for visas during the ban. But a hotel reservation, even if already paid for, does not qualify.

Even as travel officials across the US were making final preparations for putting the ban into place, opponents were preparing new legal maneuvers.

Late Thursday, Hawaii asked federal district Judge Derrick Watson to clarify the scope of the travel and refugee bans in the Pacific island state -- and who, specifically, the ban refers to when stating that only an immigrant's close family members can travel to the US.

"In Hawaii, 'close family' includes many of the people that the federal government decided on its own to exclude from that definition. Unfortunately, this severely limited definition may be in violation of the Supreme Court ruling," Attorney General Douglas Chin, said in a statement.

- 'Redefining family' -

Democratic legislator Bennie Thompson blasted the government for a "lack of preparation and transparency" in putting the ban into place.

"Just hours before the president's unconstitutional and misguided travel ban takes partial effect tonight, administration officials briefing Congress were unwilling or unable to provide meaningful answers about how they determined whom the ban would affect," said Thompson, the senior Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee.

Rama Issa, executive director of the Arab American Association of New York, said the government is redefining what a family is.

"I was raised by my grandparents, so the idea of grandparents not being part of a family is very foreign to me," she said at Kennedy International, preparing to help arrivals after the ban takes effect.

"I'm engaged to get married. I have family who lives in Syria today -- not only my father, but my aunts and uncles who I would love to be at this wedding, and unfortunately are not going to be able to be here."
 
Washington (AFP) - US President Donald Trump's ban on refugees and travelers from six mainly Muslim countries went into effect late Thursday, after a Supreme Court decision allowed it to go forward following a five-month battle with rights groups.

The Trump administration says the temporary ban is necessary to block terrorists from entering the country, but immigrant advocates charge that it illegally singles out Muslims.

The 90-day ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen, and a 120-day ban on refugees, will allow exceptions for people with "close family relationships" in the United States.

But activists said the government has defined that too narrowly, excluding relationships with grandparents and grandchildren, aunts and uncles and others.

And many were concerned about a possibly chaotic rollout of enforcement of the ban, like that in January when it was first announced.

Immigration rights activists and lawyers were waiting to help arrivals at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport and other airports to be sure those from the six countries with valid US visas were allowed in after the ban went into effect at 8 pm Thursday Eastern time (0000 GMT Friday).

The Department of Homeland Security, which was heavily criticized for mishandling many arrivals when the ban was first attempted in January, promised a smooth rollout this time.

It stressed that anyone with a valid visa issued before the ban begins would still be admitted, and that all authorized refugees booked for travel before July 6 will also be allowed.

"We expect business as usual at the ports of entry starting at 8 pm tonight," said a DHS official. "Our people are well prepared for this."

The Trump administration insists the ban was necessary to protect the country from terror threats, and to give immigration authorities more time to tighten vetting of travelers and refugees.

"As recent events have shown, we are living in a very dangerous time, and the US government needs every available tool to prevent terrorists from entering the country and committing acts of bloodshed and violence," a senior administration official told reporters Thursday.

- Trump claims political victory -

But implementing it, even with exceptions, was also claimed as a political victory by Trump, after federal appeals courts twice blocked his order saying it violated constitutional protections of religion and overshot his own presidential powers.

Immigrant rights groups and Democrats in Congress continued to label Trump's order "illegal" and said the exemptions provided in a Supreme Court ruling on Monday remained unfair.

According to guidelines issued by the State Department, people with "close family relationships" would be exempt from the ban. It defined that to include parents, spouses, children, sons- and daughters-in-law, siblings and step- and half-siblings.

But "close family" does not include grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, brothers-in-laws and sisters-in-law, fiances and any other "extended" family members, the guidelines say.

People with formal relationships with a US entity -- who have for instance been offered a job or been accepted to study or lecture at a university -- will also qualify for visas during the ban. But a hotel reservation, even if already paid for, does not qualify.

Even as travel officials across the US were making final preparations for putting the ban into place, opponents were preparing new legal maneuvers.

Late Thursday, Hawaii asked federal district Judge Derrick Watson to clarify the scope of the travel and refugee bans in the Pacific island state -- and who, specifically, the ban refers to when stating that only an immigrant's close family members can travel to the US.

"In Hawaii, 'close family' includes many of the people that the federal government decided on its own to exclude from that definition. Unfortunately, this severely limited definition may be in violation of the Supreme Court ruling," Attorney General Douglas Chin, said in a statement.

- 'Redefining family' -

Democratic legislator Bennie Thompson blasted the government for a "lack of preparation and transparency" in putting the ban into place.

"Just hours before the president's unconstitutional and misguided travel ban takes partial effect tonight, administration officials briefing Congress were unwilling or unable to provide meaningful answers about how they determined whom the ban would affect," said Thompson, the senior Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee.

Rama Issa, executive director of the Arab American Association of New York, said the government is redefining what a family is.

"I was raised by my grandparents, so the idea of grandparents not being part of a family is very foreign to me," she said at Kennedy International, preparing to help arrivals after the ban takes effect.

"I'm engaged to get married. I have family who lives in Syria today -- not only my father, but my aunts and uncles who I would love to be at this wedding, and unfortunately are not going to be able to be here."

Putting the words 'John F Kennedy' in a post about Trump's Muslim ban (even if it just refers to an airport) makes me vomit :spew::spew::spew:
 
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Some things never change. 150 years ago, slaves required permission to travel as well.

Fuck travel bans.


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what happened to the "total and complete" muslim ban?

sounds like you suckers got sold a false bill of goods. losers.

You're correct, he did say "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.", but he did change this to only banning specific countries during his campaign where islamic terrisiom is a big problem.

Countries Included in the 90 day ban:
  1. Libya
  2. Syria
  3. Iran
  4. Somalia
  5. Yemen
  6. Sudan

List of Majority Muslim Countries not affected by the ban.
  1. Afghanistan
  2. Albania
  3. Algeria
  4. Azerbaijan
  5. Bahrain
  6. Bangladesh
  7. Brunei
  8. Burkina Faso
  9. Chad
  10. Comoros
  11. Djibouti
  12. Egypt
  13. Guinea
  14. Indonesia
  15. Iraq
  16. Jordan
  17. Kazakhstan
  18. Kosovo
  19. Kuwait
  20. Kyrgyzstan
  21. Lebanon
  22. Malaysia
  23. Maldives
  24. Mali
  25. Mauritania
  26. Mayotte
  27. Morocco
  28. Niger
  29. Nigeria
  30. Oman
  31. Pakistan
  32. Palestine
  33. Qatar
  34. Saudi Arabia
  35. Senegal
  36. Sierra Leone
  37. Tajikistan
  38. The Gambia
  39. Tunisia
  40. Turkey
  41. Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus
  42. Turkmenistan
  43. United Arab Emirates
  44. Uzbekistan
  45. Western Sahara
If this was a Muslim ban, would no all Muslim countries be included in the ban list?
 
You're correct, he did say "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.", but he did change this to only banning specific countries during his campaign where islamic terrisiom is a big problem.

Countries Included in the 90 day ban:
  1. Libya
  2. Syria
  3. Iran
  4. Somalia
  5. Yemen
  6. Sudan

List of Majority Muslim Countries not affected by the ban.
  1. Afghanistan
  2. Albania
  3. Algeria
  4. Azerbaijan
  5. Bahrain
  6. Bangladesh
  7. Brunei
  8. Burkina Faso
  9. Chad
  10. Comoros
  11. Djibouti
  12. Egypt
  13. Guinea
  14. Indonesia
  15. Iraq
  16. Jordan
  17. Kazakhstan
  18. Kosovo
  19. Kuwait
  20. Kyrgyzstan
  21. Lebanon
  22. Malaysia
  23. Maldives
  24. Mali
  25. Mauritania
  26. Mayotte
  27. Morocco
  28. Niger
  29. Nigeria
  30. Oman
  31. Pakistan
  32. Palestine
  33. Qatar
  34. Saudi Arabia
  35. Senegal
  36. Sierra Leone
  37. Tajikistan
  38. The Gambia
  39. Tunisia
  40. Turkey
  41. Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus
  42. Turkmenistan
  43. United Arab Emirates
  44. Uzbekistan
  45. Western Sahara
If this was a Muslim ban, would no all Muslim countries be included in the ban list?


Just the ones Trump and his cronies don't do business in, derp.
 
trump: "total and complete shutdown of muslim immigration"

bigoted retards: "YAY!"

trump: "the scotus is letting a watered down version of a limited travel ban take effect for 90 days"

bigoted retards: "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!"
 
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