Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

Drop That Sound

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OldMedUser said:
Free here. Just make an appt at the local drug store and show up for the shot. Pretty sure if you had to pay for it you're only paying for the one dose. The rest of the doses in that bottle get paid for by the next people who get some from it. When vaccines were in short supply if there were doses left over they would announce over the PA in stores that you could get your shot right now if it was free or at half price in places that charge just so the doses wouldn't get wasted. They can't go back into the freezers. Phizer needs the really cold freezers but Moderna is OK in a regular freezer so that's all we've got here is the moderna.

It could be nuts this winter with everyone thinking this is over. The flu has been repressed from all the mask wearing so there will be lots of that as well as covid flare ups especially in red states. TB has been ignored thru all this and is now killing many more than covid is and a lot more than it has in past years. This RSV virus is also flaring up and can be quite devastating to the very young. And now polio and some smallpox is popping up in various places to add to the joy. People have become so complacent about these 'extinct' diseases that half the world is susceptible to becoming an epidemic instead of namby-pamby pandemic.

Then there's the thawing arctic and permafrost releasing bacteria, virus and fungi that we've never encountered before.

Oh well. Once WWIII wipes humans off the planet it can heal itself for a few million years until some mutant chimpanzee figures out how to control fire then we can start the whole damn thing up again for another fun ride. :)

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Also.. we have some 3rd world like conditions here in the US, in most cities now. Trash, rats, fleas.. Some say it was conditions like that in which many diseases were able to flourish. The charts prove most of those diseases were on the decline before any vaccines even came out, as if access to proper sanitation was actually the cause of decline.
 
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Triple Vaccinated People More Likely Than Unvaccinated to Get Symptomatic COVID-19: Study

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Association of mRNA Vaccination With Clinical and Virological Features of COVID-19

This study uses a prospective cohort of essential and frontline workers in 6 US states with SARS-CoV-2 infection to examine associations between 2 or 3 doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine and attenuation of symptoms and viral RNA load across SARS-CoV-2 viral lineages.
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Budley Doright

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PJ Diaz said:
Yep, that's how I was able to post this screenshot, remember?

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And? I could have offered up a few personal “but” stories, like everyone in my extended family vaxxed and no side effects (no deaths), those who caught the virus experienced minor symptoms (bad cold) but I figured the actual accredited studies would be more relevant to this thread, thanks!
 
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OldMedUser

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NotTheRobot said:
I got my fourth shot a week ago. I took Moderna because shots 2 and 3 were Moderna and I've managed to NOT get Covid yet. I distance, wash hands after going out, don't attend concerts, go on cruises, etc. and haven't gotten sick. Colds and flu are included in the list of things I haven't had in years now so the distancing and masks are about more than Covid for me. Closed offices with recirculated air and sick people that were too proud to stay home when they are sick is in the past for me.

Years ago I worked in a group with a person that came back to Canada with TB. The guy that got TB was 5'10" and dropped to 87 pounds, got put in a medically induced coma, and years later still had holes in his lungs since lungs are very slow to heal. Over a year after he was infected people that worked with him (including me) got a request to test for TB. TB hangs around and waits for the system to weaken, then attacks. If you think disease is over because you aren't sick today there will be lessons in how it really works.

I know more people that have had Covid in the last couple months than all the previous months starting in 2019. Red states means U.S. which is a REALLY small part of the world.
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I've long been doing things like keeping my distance and washing my hands after getting home from shopping just to avoid things like colds and flu so didn't feel like I lost any 'freedums' when I had to restrict going out or even wearing a mask for the short time it takes me to do my shopping. We haven't gone out for entertainment etc for years so was no skin off our teeth. I really feel for the younger folks who love that kind of stuff and especially young families that lost jobs, faced or suffered eviction and had much more of a struggle than we did.

I've only had a couple cousins in the states get covid and they're both unvaxxed and tRump fans. The older brother is now in the hospital with what looks like congestive heart failure but don't know if it's related to covid.

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PadawanWarrior

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OldMedUser said:
I've long been doing things like keeping my distance and washing my hands after getting home from shopping just to avoid things like colds and flu so didn't feel like I lost any 'freedums' when I had to restrict going out or even wearing a mask for the short time it takes me to do my shopping. We haven't gone out for entertainment etc for years so was no skin off our teeth. I really feel for the younger folks who love that kind of stuff and especially young families that lost jobs, faced or suffered eviction and had much more of a struggle than we did.

I've only had a couple cousins in the states get covid and they're both unvaxxed and tRump fans. The older brother is now in the hospital with what looks like congestive heart failure but don't know if it's related to covid.

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I agree. Please wear your mask everybody.

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PJ Diaz

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Budley Doright said:
And? I could have offered up a few personal “but” stories, like everyone in my extended family vaxxed and no side effects (no deaths), those who caught the virus experienced minor symptoms (bad cold) but I figured the actual accredited studies would be more relevant to this thread, thanks!
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And I asked you what exactly you are trying to prove? All you did was post a link to this government website:

Archived 39: Recommendations on the use of bivalent Omicron-containing mRNA COVID-19 vaccines [2022-09-01] - Canada.ca

NACI recommendations on the use of bivalent Omicron-containing mRNA COVID-19 vaccines: Methods, epidemiology, hybrid immunity, seroprevalence, efficacy, immunogenicity, administration, benefits, safety, adverse events and more.
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca
 
Budley Doright

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PJ Diaz said:
And I asked you what exactly you are trying to prove? All you did was post a link to this government website:

Archived 39: Recommendations on the use of bivalent Omicron-containing mRNA COVID-19 vaccines [2022-09-01] - Canada.ca

NACI recommendations on the use of bivalent Omicron-containing mRNA COVID-19 vaccines: Methods, epidemiology, hybrid immunity, seroprevalence, efficacy, immunogenicity, administration, benefits, safety, adverse events and more.
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca
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Not trying to prove anything, what is this thread trying to prove exactly? As I said, I’m adding relevant studies to this thread. And yes it’s a link (this is fun) pertaining to the efficacy of the vax based id science and not feels. Take what you will from them or nothing, it’s totally your choice. I chose to follow the guidelines from the doctors and epidemiology experts and hopefully that was the right choice.
 
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