Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

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Sedan

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I hope I get to finish my grow before the world blows up
Bro, I would recommend this to you. You will be calmer.))

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Sorry, Sedan. I will never listen to Fox News. Honestly, that made me chuckle. That is pure propaganda.
You Americans are strange.)) This is the only opposition channel in the United States that has not yet been banned. It is the last stronghold of democracy in the United States. This is an opposition channel, the only one that does not speak like everyone else. He has a different perspective on what is happening. And do you think that the only channel that expresses oppositional opinion is propaganda? Are you serious?)) It seemed to me that it was the other way around. That propaganda is what is shouted on every corner and written in every newspaper. For example, in Ukraine, under the rule of Zelensky, three opposition channels were closed and their licenses were revoked. Do you know how they explained that they closed the channels out of lawlessness, violating the constitutional right to be able to express one's opinion, whatever it may be? They said it was Russian propaganda. Now there is only one opposition channel left. But literally not yet.. On February 2, Natsiks came to the office of this TV channel, they wanted to break into the channel and destroy it. You will be very surprised at the reason why they came there. In the United States, in all newspapers, material was published, as always without evidence)))), on the basis of the Pentagon's uncovered information that the Russian special services are preparing a coup in Kiev and want to put their man in power. They even gave their last name. This man owns this channel. After the Nazis read the American newspapers, they immediately went to smash this TV channel!


Tucker Carlson, is a blatant racist & Fox's lawyers in court argued successfully that no "reasonable viewer" would take his statements as statements of fact.
Strange, but it seemed to me that no "reasonable viewer" would take his statements as statements of fact, when very serious accusations are made without any evidence. And this is done at the state level. And then, they force them to believe in this lie by force.

Trump is a malignant narcissist that lies more than he breathes, is intent on destroying democracy for his own personal benefit, and Fox has been his propaganda arm.
Bro, I don't see any difference between Trump and Biden in the grand scheme of things. I tell you honestly. Believe me, I understand politics.

Trump to falsely claim that no one died during the insurrection he instigated except for 1 "patriotic woman". Not a peep from the journalist interviewing him even though 5 people died that day & 150 police were sent to the hospital.
Strange, in our country this is not called an uprising, but a "Revolution of Dignity" or Maidan. We have 14,000 dead.

You have a rebellion, we have dignity. You have criminals, we have heroes. This is called double standards.

I will question government reports & I will listen to you and other Ukrainians but I will never digest Fox, Newsmax, or OAN propaganda.
I watch absolutely all the news, then I analyze it. This is the only way to understand the truth. And I advise you the same. Yes, it happens that it is very unpleasant to watch, but I force myself.

BTW, reputable media outlets have reported the incident whereby the journalists asked for evidence & Fox ate crow for reporting that a jobs report would be horrible when in fact it came out to be overwhelmingly positive.
Bro, enough material for compromising evidence against any government, even without fake news.

Peace, Bro.
Peace!
 

Sedan

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I wish it was in english. My French is terrible!
)) That's the whole joke, Bro! I myself understood the translation, only from Russian news.)) This will not be shown to you for sure .. But exactly what you remember what I said earlier - first France ... then Germany!

Yes, I can translate for you what they say in Russian translation only. How do I know, maybe in Russian news they translate fake?))

But if you want, I can reproduce this fake translation from French: Donbas residents say that Ukraine started the war and that it is still bombing peaceful cities. I’m definitely not talking about fragments of mines marked from NATO .. even in that video this is not.)) This is also a fake.
 

Offmymeds

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I wish it was in english. My French is terrible!
Google translation of the video description:
While the dialogue continues between the various heads of state on the situation in Ukraine, the situation remains very tense in Donbass, a region of the country now in the hands of pro-Russian separatists.

Most thumbed up user comments:
Comment: Donbass devastated by the Ukrainian army
Comment: It's not the separatists!!! What Russian soldiers and Russia sponsoring this war!!

Apparently Ukraine is fighting separatists, Russia sponsors them, citizens in the middle as usual.

From what I can gather Ukraine gets political propaganda from oligarchs that buy parliamentary seats, Russian propaganda via Facebook, and domestic corporate propaganda. Sound familiar?

Sedan, where are you located?
 

Sedan

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Google translation of the video description:
The fact that France 24 broadcasts in two languages, in French and English, does not mean anything to you. And the most interesting thing is that this video is not in English! Only French. Although it talks about a topical issue - the war in Ukraine. Only.. FOR THE FIRST TIME.. I see a foreign media report from the other side of the barricades, from the side of the separatists. Bro, you don’t even need to translate it, everyone understands that France is changing the vector. Elections are coming soon, there are three candidates - Macron and two more women. Everyone in France is unhappy with Macron. The remaining two candidates want to renew relations with Moscow. One candidate stated bluntly recently: She says that if she becomes president, the first thing France will do is leave NATO.

From what I can gather Ukraine gets political propaganda from oligarchs that buy parliamentary seats, Russian propaganda via Facebook, and domestic corporate propaganda.
What you see on the video is essentially Russian propaganda. This is what they show in the Russian news every day, only a little softer. They show the Donbas.. how unfortunate people suffer from shelling, as they call the Ukrainian military Nazis.

Bro, I know that neo-Nazis are now in power in Ukraine, who are openly financed by the West. This is more than enough for me to make my choice! I haven't seen any of my grandfathers!! My mother and father grew up without fathers, they do not remember their fathers, they were very small.

My two grandfathers died in the war - they were killed by the Nazis!!!

Sound familiar?
It reminds me of Reagan's statement about the Evil Empire. That Empire of Evil where I was born .. where is my homeland. This is what I have always loved and will love!

Sedan, where are you located?
30 km from the border with Russia.
 

Sedan

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Been following the thread a few weeks or months. Cant tell if you're actually Russian spy.
And I'm not kidding, Bro- for these statements in Ukraine, I can get five years in prison.

No, I'm saying what I see, I'm not expressing anyone's point of view. Tired of all this is simple. Especially the fake about the Russian invasion. It just annoys me. As they wrote above, Russians are very annoying.)) My mother is Ukrainian, and my father is Russian. Can you imagine what it's like for me?

Good stuff though.
Thanks Bro!

By the way, fox is bullshit. But so is CNN.
This is what I said above, that I see no difference between Biden and Trump. Between Poroshenko and Zelensky.
 

blueberrymilkshake

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And I'm not kidding, Bro- for these statements in Ukraine, I can get five years in prison.

No, I'm saying what I see, I'm not expressing anyone's point of view. Tired of all this is simple. Especially the fake about the Russian invasion. It just annoys me. As they wrote above, Russians are very annoying.)) My mother is Ukrainian, and my father is Russian. Can you imagine what it's like for me?


Thanks Bro!


This is what I said above, that I see no difference between Biden and Trump. Between Poroshenko and Zelensky.
You don't have to risk your freedom to spread information, but you are anyway and it is appreciated.

I read that about Russians being annoying. I always felt they are lively. Such can be misconstrued as annoying, but maybe im just annoying too haha.

I have no faith in politicians. I'll bring eagle, you bring bear, we drink spirits and smoke flower, be loud and annoying and shoot ordinance together!
 

Sedan

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You don't have to risk your freedom to spread information, but you are anyway and it is appreciated.
Bro, come on without poetry only.)) I'm not Spider-Man, nor Nelson Mandella, nor Martin Luther King.

The probability is small, we do not pay attention to forums with similar topics. There is not enough audience here for propaganda to work. If I publish on YouTube, then YouTube will be closed and I will have problems with the law, if not with the law, then with the Nazis.

But still, if you think I'm fantasizing, then read here


I already recalled that the golden times of the USSR were under Brezhnev. This grandmother lived through the times of Brezhnev and remembers them. With longing, she recalls those wonderful times, as it seemed to her. All this is published on the Internet. The Security Service of Ukraine breaks into her house, handcuffs grandmother, pushes her into a car, and takes her to court. The court sentences her to five years in prison, thank God, with a suspended sentence...

I have no faith in politicians. I'll bring eagle, you bring bear, we drink spirits and smoke flower, be loud and annoying and shoot ordinance together!
Bro, this is a great suggestion!

I love Walker whiskey, do you?)))
 
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Sedan

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I don't think you fantasize. Just joking about you being a spy haha.
The whole point is that I don't find it funny anymore. In Ukraine, such words are taken seriously, no matter how absurd it sounds.



I have had Johnny walker scotch. Is that what you're talking about?
Yes

For the holiday I buy red, I don’t have money for another))) .. black, but blue is better.)))

I haven't drank vodka for twenty years. I don't like vodka.
 

Sedan

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I drank vodka every day for a few years. I will never drink it again.
Now you understand what the Russian has in his head.)))

I don't drink hard liquor every day - it's very hard for my health, even in small doses - 250 grams of scotch per evening is my norm. The head does not hurt in the morning, but if every day, it's hard. I drink beer every day. Beer has a positive effect on me. Beer calms (not like scotch invigorates), beer awakens the appetite. If you also smoke marijuana along with beer, it relaxes very well in the evening. Until 6 pm I do not drink, except on weekends.

Turned into a tequila fan lately though. Prefer bourbon over scotch.
Yes, Jack Daniels is our most popular bourbon.

My brother-in-law was in the USA, he brought me American bourbon, which is not available here. Yes, it is very tasty, no worse than scotch, and there is something special about it, which is not in scotch. But I prefer scotch, because there is malt in it, and this is medicine.
 

Offmymeds

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Bro, remember when I said we only had one opposition channel left?

not anymore

Damn. I was thinking about you & your country yesterday. Really disheartening to see such beautiful places like Donbas bombed out. Hoping for the best.

It's different here. We have 3 main opposition channels, plus streaming channels and podcasts along with a flood of misinformation and disinformation on social media & even in letters to the editor in newspapers. We have the minority party actively working against the interests of the country encouraging the Canadian truckers blockade to block the American border for further disruption of the economy as well using a coordinated propaganda campaign spreading really vile lies. It's happening in Canada as well.

How's your grow going and what are you growing?
 

Sedan

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Damn. I was thinking about you & your country yesterday. Really disheartening to see such beautiful places like Donbas bombed out. Hoping for the best.
Bro, it's superfluous to say that Donbass is a wonderful place. This is a mining region, there are no beautiful things there, except for coal mines. Donetsk is not a very beautiful city, and there is not a very good infrastructure. We are talking now not about the beauty of courtesans, but about how ordinary people suffer - it will be more correct!

Thank you, Bro, for the wishes, but I see... as I said here and five years ago... that my prophecies have come true.. There will be no peace in the Donbas, it will be a buffer zone.. separating Russia and NATO. Those people will suffer for a very long time for nothing.

The opposition is always against the government. It is needed because in this pile of lies and misinformation, the truth often slips through. The government sees this truth and understands that others see it, and tries to change something about this.

Closing opposition TV channels is a totalitarian regime. In my case, it's also Nazi. As always, my postscript is supported by the West!
How's your grow going and what are you growing?
Bro, so far veg in the installation. Not really focused on plants right now, more struggling with want... trying to survive! Thanks Bro for your support! I'll show you soon what's going on in my setup.
 

oldsilvertip55

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Bro, it's superfluous to say that Donbass is a wonderful place. This is a mining region, there are no beautiful things there, except for coal mines. Donetsk is not a very beautiful city, and there is not a very good infrastructure. We are talking now not about the beauty of courtesans, but about how ordinary people suffer - it will be more correct!

Thank you, Bro, for the wishes, but I see... as I said here and five years ago... that my prophecies have come true.. There will be no peace in the Donbas, it will be a buffer zone.. separating Russia and NATO. Those people will suffer for a very long time for nothing.

The opposition is always against the government. It is needed because in this pile of lies and misinformation, the truth often slips through. The government sees this truth and understands that others see it, and tries to change something about this.

Closing opposition TV channels is a totalitarian regime. In my case, it's also Nazi. As always, my postscript is supported by the West!

Bro, so far veg in the installation. Not really focused on plants right now, more struggling with want... trying to survive! Thanks Bro for your support! I'll show you soon what's going on in my setup.
stay safe sedan ,may peace find you and yours soon!
 
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