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jigfresh

jigfresh

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Ah you guys are making me laugh today. Osteoporosis.... hahahaha.

And Mr. Old Fart. I love that you were out there breaking rules before we were even born. :) I hope I'm still cool when I'm your age and not a surly old man.
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Started up a bunch of tea today.

I used (per gallon):

1 Tbsp Peruvian Seabird Guano
1 Tbsp High N Bat Guano
1 Tbsp Earthworm Castings
2 Tbsp Ancient Forest (humus)
1 tsp Kelp Meal
1 Tbsp Blackstrap Molasses

I've still only watered the big girls like 3 or 4 times total. Haven't given them water in at least a week? I'll give them this tea tomorrow night.

I am thinking of switching to 12/12.

Any idea why they grow so slow?
 
DST

DST

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I tend to pot up more than you have done Jig. Perhaps it's becuase you put the clones into those large bags before you had a decent root ball developed. I have found when putting small plants into larger pots they tend not to perform as well as the ones I had gradually built up their pot size. May not be the case, but a suggestions. The Sour D will explode in 12/12 I reckon. But for me I would still be veggin a bit more. Perhaps watering more often with smaller amounts....
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Thanks for the suggestions. It's a bit gutting to watch whodats plants in soil. I swear he planted his seeds after I got my clones. I think the plants would have been this big after 10 days in my hydro set up. I don't have an issue with any of it really... just feel as though I'm wasting electricity. I am still quite enjoying growing in soil vs hydro.
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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Cover the base of the stalks with something lightproof will make the root branches at the top of the bags branch out. Top few inches are penetrated by light easy. Especially with that big 1k. Just watch for moisture build up. So in an ideal world light proof yet breathable.

Gortex root bags ;) you heard it hear first! Lol

Too non breathable for the full bag is wager tho.

If its any consolation my clone game has gone to shit. I need a sure fire solution. Think my environment management isn't up to par. I'm slippin.

Stay up big poppa
 
colocowboy

colocowboy

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It looks like your canopy temps are high, they look heat stressed to me. My theory is that your hydro was evaporating far more water and humidity compensates high temperatures. Do you know what your leaf surface temps are?
 
TrynaGroSumShyt

TrynaGroSumShyt

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jigfresh said:
Started up a bunch of tea today.

I used (per gallon):

1 Tbsp Peruvian Seabird Guano
1 Tbsp High N Bat Guano
1 Tbsp Earthworm Castings
2 Tbsp Ancient Forest (humus)
1 tsp Kelp Meal
1 Tbsp Blackstrap Molasses

I've still only watered the big girls like 3 or 4 times total. Haven't given them water in at least a week? I'll give them this tea tomorrow night.

I am thinking of switching to 12/12.

Any idea why they grow so slow?
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Only 1 Tsp Kelp meal? Liquid or Powdered or Natural/Crushed? I use 1tbsp/g or the dry crushhed stuff, and 1/2 tbsp/g of liquid kelp meal. I have never used humus in tea, i read in a few places to add humus to the soil instead. Also i don't even measure castings anymore but when i did i believe it was 10 tbsp for 5 gallons so that 2 tbsp/g of castings. And its ok Jig, i waster all my girls an average of every 5-6 days sometimes longer. When using synthetics i was watering every 3 days. i think organics takes a while longer to begin uptake? but i'm not sure at all.
 
genuity

genuity

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could just be your clones jig,just may not be as vigorus,as f1 seeds thats all.

a plant trying to fill them big pots,will show slow growth,till roots take a strong hold of things.
 
Bobotrank

Bobotrank

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I agree with D-S-T... less water, more often. That tea should really help them take off, though. I'd maybe give them the smallest little drink of fresh water first, let them sit 20-30 min, and then water them with the tea. Then cut some of that tea in half and foliar spray with it.

I've found that if I break up my watering over the course of an hour my plants seem to like it better. I can't always do this, but when I can I do. Also, Alaskan Humus is just another form of EWC I do believe, albeit a bit hotter. I think Whodat told me that, but I was stoned, so...

If you want to give those plants an extra little push... I have a dirty secret for you, and it rhymes with Roots Accelerator. That's how I got my last plants to turn around so fast this last round. I felt like I was cheating somehow, but I could literally see the difference in a day. My root mass when I emptied out my 7 gallon smart pots was SOLID roots... It'll only take 1-2 waterings and you should be rrrrripping! Just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it brotha!

Hope you're having a good Friday, Jig. Just drinking this coffee, enjoying quiet time before mom and the mini awake.

HHB HHB HHB

edit: btw, T, you're absolutely right about watering frequency going up when using synthetics vs organics. With organics and biodynamics you use less water overall. I've seen outdoor gardens that hadn't been watered in months that looked like grand prize winners at the county fair. All because of compost teas early on, and a strong soil colony.

edit edit: Jig, was just thinking... do you "fluff" your soil at all? With my smart pots I'll pull them out and kinda massage the pot a little bit to help break up the soil, allowing more air flow in there. I find that if I feel like the plants aren't taking up the water as quickly as I'd like them to, this helps to dry out the root zone a little bit.
 
bassman999

bassman999

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I have watered edges only and think it might make the roots stretch out for the water on severely upcanned girls.
 
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