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coc is easy plug and play stuff if u get the right nutes and are not too gun ho with em. Gun ho? or is it gung ho? Soft water nutes http://www.nutriculture.co.uk/plant-magic-coco-bloom-a-b-1l-soft-water.html

I.m currently having my first experience with coco. Bonchi's (bonsai chili's), Bonsai sweet peppers and basil.
I start them off in soil, transfer to hydro then into the coco once big enough.

It's a great hobby because it costs virtually nothing apart from the coco. I get the seeds from things I eat, pots from thrift shops (The 5 pots in the photo cost me £2, just needed to drill holes in the bottom), use the waste nutes out of my res when I change it and just use up spare space in my veg cab when it's available. There's a layer of hydroton in the bottom of each pot, covered by a J-cloth, then the coco on top.

The biggest thing I have noticed with it is how fast it dries out (compared to soil in similar pots) and for that i find this useful.

It's just a cheap moisture/pH meter. The pH bit is a waste of space but the moisture bit is very useful.

The trouble with coco is it's hard to tell how wet it is by looking and/or weight compared to a soil pot, especially if trying to keep the pot size small (bonsai style). This makes it much easier and cost me about £10.

mr west said:

coc is easy plug and play stuff if u get the right nutes and are not too gun ho with em. Gun ho? or is it gung ho? Soft water nutes http://www.nutriculture.co.uk/plant-magic-coco-bloom-a-b-1l-soft-water.html

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Mate, you forgot a "o". Took me a couple minutes to figure out what the hell 'coc' was. lol

jigfresh said:

Thanks a lot, and I agree about this site. Much of it drives me crazy and pisses me off, but there is some priceless stuff here. Be it info on growing mj, or meeting some really great people. It sounds funny to say but my life is definitely better from having joined RIU.



I have never used coco, but my friends use it. Maybe someone will chime in, or give a good suggestion of a good resource. According to my memory both DST and Mr. West use coco and they both grow top notch smoke. You could check out their journals. No idea about soft water. Just read about it and it seems like soft water has the calcium and magnesium removed, that's replaced with sodium (in salt systems). Not sure the effect of the added salt, but it looks like you'll need to use some cal-mag with your nutrients to replace the stuff gone from the water. But that's just a guess you should look into it.

I'm going to try soil after this grow. I have set a friend up with a little soil grow in part to work out the kinks. He should be able to get another one in before I start going that way.

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Jig, this site definitely has its boneheads, to phrase that nicely. Hahah. But there are some great people so it pans out. Seems West is already on it with the links, got a link for coco nutes to look at. Now I just have to find a way to get it here. I will take a look at their journals. Thanks for the heads up bruh. I kinda figured the cal mag was gonna be a must after reading how salt softened water works. I'm wondering if the salt would then exasperate salt build up lending the plants more easily to nute lockout. More research will solve that problem.

Oh btw, how's the root growth coming along still back at its usual pace?

mr west said:

coc is easy plug and play stuff if u get the right nutes and are not too gun ho with em. Gun ho? or is it gung ho? Soft water nutes http://www.nutriculture.co.uk/plant-magic-coco-bloom-a-b-1l-soft-water.html

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West that looks really interesting. The only problem would be locating it Stateside. I did some research (Google) the only sites that come up are the UK. Their U.S. site doesn't seem to have nutes.

cues said:

There's a layer of hydroton in the bottom of each pot, covered by a J-cloth, then the coco on top.
The biggest thing I have noticed with it is how fast it dries out (compared to soil in similar pots) and for that i find this useful. It's just a cheap moisture/pH meter. The pH bit is a waste of space but the moisture bit is very useful.

The trouble with coco is it's hard to tell how wet it is by looking and/or weight compared to a soil pot, especially if trying to keep the pot size small (bonsai style). This makes it much easier and cost me about £10.

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Cues I was thinking, scary as that is (hah), I may have found a possible solution to the pondering how moist the coco would be...blumats. For the couple of $$ they cost it's worth a go. But the moisture meter is good idea to add to the blumats to ensure the blumats are working properly.

Thanks for all the tips everyone.

jig, I did the same thing at first but after I clicked the link, it sunk in. That coulda been bad right, hahah "coc". Annnddd now I feel five years old again.

Jig, I did a bit more work on the bottle idea today and came up with this.
Its just hydroton in the bottle with slits to allow for extra drainage. I was worried about the roots blocking the 'lid-hole' so came up with the slits idea, then today, came up with the hosepipe idea (hit it from both sides). I intend to strategically perforate it.

I put the 5" ducting that will 'sleeve' the bottles behind so you get an idea.

Anyhow, here's a few more pics showing where I am heading with this.



Sorry for hacking your thread. I will do my own in spring/summer when I get this running outside.

baby batter, baby puppies, DOG's, football banter and innovative DIY.... and the award for most diverse thread goes to!!!! JIGFRESH. only thing that could improve it would be a pair of boobies.

LOL.
Guess that's where the saying 'Getting Jiggy with it' comes from!

Well don. You got a camera and a penchant for getting in trouble with your lady... why not ruin a weekend to complete the thread lol. Thanks for stopping in.

@cues, no worries about posting stuff here. If you get really annoying we will all just start ignoring you. One thing to think about with this plan is the light blocking ability of that ducting. From what I remember it doesn't block it all out which would mean more work blocking it. Might want to check that if you can.

Don Gin and Ton said:

baby batter, baby puppies, DOG's, football banter and innovative DIY.... and the award for most diverse thread goes to!!!! JIGFRESH. only thing that could improve it would be a pair of boobies.

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I really don't want to post a pic of obama and biden....they're the biggest boobs I know

now I've added politics to the menu, wanna try for religion next?


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curious old fart said:

I really don't want to post a pic of obama and biden....they're the biggest boobs I know

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curious old fart said:

now I've added politics to the menu, wanna try for religion next?

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Sure... did you guys know that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all agree on something? It's true. All believe that Abraham was the first prophet and look to him as one of the holiest men that ever lived.

And I wear a bracelet for religious reasons that causes me issues going through security sometimes.

Um... I have a quran sitting between my two bibles. And I've gone to a Sikh worship service. Done completely in Punjabi. Interesting language. I got free food though lol.

I was an acolyte at my church for many years and I loved it. I find it beautiful that Martin Luther King Jr was named after Martin Luther. Well I guess he was named after his dad, who was named after the original. At least I figure that's who they were named after. Can you imagine the balls it would have taken to nail those pages on the church door.

Not sure I was very inflamitory. But that's what I got on religion for now.

jigfresh said:

Well don. You got a camera and a penchant for getting in trouble with your lady... why not ruin a weekend to complete the thread lol. Thanks for stopping in.

@cues, no worries about posting stuff here. If you get really annoying we will all just start ignoring you. One thing to think about with this plan is the light blocking ability of that ducting. From what I remember it doesn't block it all out which would mean more work blocking it. Might want to check that if you can.

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I was hoping the silver ducting would reflect light back up. My main interest is peppers (both sweet and chili) and we struggle for enough light in the UK. I was also thinking it would keeps res temps down. If I get problems, I was thinkig of using correx sheet.

Yo Smoothkicks, maybe u could contact the man and see if they have any state side stockists and if not might make em think bout it.
http://www.plant-magic.co.uk/contactus.php

mr west said:

Yo Smoothkicks, maybe u could contact the man and see if they have any state side stockists and if not might make em think bout it.
http://www.plant-magic.co.uk/contactus.php

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I'll give it a shot, I hope they do. Shit all they can say is no. I'll post what I find out in case anyone else is interested. Sorry Jig I feel like I kinda jacked your thread. Damn amateurs right? Hahah.
Later,
Smooth

No worries. You guys doing new stuff if more interesting than what I got going on anyhow.

I changed the water out today. Lots of new roots. Pretty happy.

Nice, I have 2 just starting to re-veg and it's cool to see them shooting off (they already have a decent root system), Weird growth though, non-serrated leaves etc.

Thanks jig. Sounds like you got everything back on track. Good to hear bruh. I just found out I may be moving in two months so my start date might be delayed. bummmmmmeerrrrrrrrrr.

Not much of a bummer if you are moving to a better location/situation. But yeah, I hear ya.

I'm pretty stoked. God willing... I will be going to Amsterdam for the Cannabis Cup. Wow right. I'm still kinda in shock, but signs point to me smoking some fine herb with a lot of chill peeps.

As for the grow I put the 1000w in there today. LOL,,, I'm such a dumbass. I thought I was running a 400w cmh. It's a 250w. Haha, I'm such a dope. So yeah, there will not be 1400w in the closet after all. Probably just 1250w. I put the 1000w in because it's HPS and I set it really high, in hope between the wavelength of the light and the distance from the plants, they would stretch out a little. The big one has grown maybe a quarter inch in the past 14 hours or so. Looks like I have 4 with amazing roots, and 2 more with some roots. 2 others are just lame. I don't think they'll make it. I should pick up a couple more plants soon to add to the mix. 12/12 should start in maybe a week. I'm excited but at the same time, bummed the plants are bigger. Ah well. Next time right.

I'll snap some pics later on. I gotta study arabic. Have a test tomorrow, insha alla (god willing).

Happy Sunday!

I am getting roots on 3 of my strains I thought I lost and took cuts from, 5 more left to root and Ill be happy!

Hahaha, I totally know the feeling. I'm happy with the ones that have rooted... but sure as hell would like the others to get going. Fingers crossed for you bassman. Hope you get to keep all your strains.