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Blue labs makes the best meters period.

OGEvilgenius said:

You're going to struggle to control temps relying on outside air. You already know about the problem with bugs. You don't need a pH meter if you're growing organically. You do if you are growing with chemical nutrients. pH strips work fine assuming you aren't color blind.

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Its fine now that day temps are in the 60s and since I added the screens I haven't had bug problems I'm growing with coco using kiss feeding,,

fir3dragon said:

Does anyone wanna tell me exactly what meters I need? I was thinking bluelab ph and truncheon but can someone tell me how the truncheon works? Do I stick it in my gallon of water like the ph meter?

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...for ph all you need is a tester kit like this one below, ...a little fluctuation in your ph values is maybe even a good thing as some nutrients are absorbed better at one ph value while a different nutrient needs a slightly different ph to be absorbed optimally, ...so a little fluctuation is ok, piss yellow is plenty good enough for this method of growing, ...lol, this ain't a laboratory, it's a garden.

General Hydroponics GH1514 Ph Control Kit


...you'll also want a Bluelab truncheon, they are very reliable, they are simple to use and maintain and they don't cost an arm OR a leg. ,,,here's a link to the one i have and i love the thing, money very well spent.

Blue Lab Commercial Truncheon PPM / EC / CF Meter


...the ph test kit you need now, the truncheon is a great tool to have and if you have the dough you should get it for sure but, if you don't have the cake, you can put off getting one until you can buy it with the money you would have spent buying weed, ...in other words, it's a great tool to have but it is NOT essential, especially for a new grower like yourself.

peace, bozo

justanotherbozo said:

...for ph all you need is a tester kit like this one below, ...a little fluctuation in your ph values is maybe even a good thing as some nutrients are absorbed better at one ph value while a different nutrient needs a slightly different ph to be absorbed optimally, ...so a little fluctuation is ok, piss yellow is plenty good enough for this method of growing, ...lol, this ain't a laboratory, it's a garden.

General Hydroponics GH1514 Ph Control Kit


...you'll also want a Bluelab truncheon, they are very reliable, they are simple to use and maintain and they don't cost an arm OR a leg. ,,,here's a link to the one i have and i love the thing, money very well spent.

Blue Lab Commercial Truncheon PPM / EC / CF Meter


...the ph test kit you need now, the truncheon is a great tool to have and if you have the dough you should get it for sure but, if you don't have the cake, you can put off getting one until you can buy it with the money you would have spent buying weed, ...in other words, it's a great tool to have but it is NOT essential, especially for a new grower like yourself.

peace, bozo

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Ill most likely get the ph control kit, and a blue lab ph pen just because I want an actual reading for my records. I'm getting a table top calendar to write everything down everyday so I know if something goes wrong, the possibilities to prevent it again. The ph control kit, is cheaper then the up and down itself plus 8 oz should last at least 1 grow. I did take some leafs off the plants and some branches at the bottom. Them, branches I used to try to clone for the hell of it I put coco in a solo cup I had nutrients clone gel not even opened so I used that cut the big leafs in half and we will see what happens.. Just a experiment because I do want to do clones so I don't need to seed all the time. I'll also hold on the truncheon so I can get everything else I need.. Then after this grow I can just get it I usually do upgrades after every grow, where they pay for themselves.

Bozo, just curious how many pipe cleaners do you usually use?

justanotherbozo said:

...for ph all you need is a tester kit like this one below, ...a little fluctuation in your ph values is maybe even a good thing as some nutrients are absorbed better at one ph value while a different nutrient needs a slightly different ph to be absorbed optimally, ...so a little fluctuation is ok, piss yellow is plenty good enough for this method of growing, ...lol, this ain't a laboratory, it's a garden.

General Hydroponics GH1514 Ph Control Kit


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i use this only problem i see with it is down bottle could be smaller use way more up then down, tester bottle runs out kinda fast 4-5 drops per test. in the long run tho a good pen or probe setup would save money in long run.

Sire Killem All said:

i use this only problem i see with it is down bottle could be smaller use way more up then down, tester bottle runs out kinda fast 4-5 drops per test. in the long run tho a good pen or probe setup would save money in long run.

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Yeah I will be getting a blue lab meter for ph. I'm going to hold off on the truncheon until I can get all this other stuff first. I'm hoping them clones will survive and I will have 3 plants already started in coco. They didn't die, are still perked up nice and don't even appear harmed so I'm hoping they are fine. If so, I'll be taking more clones to fill up my coco buckets and going from there.. With winter coming, and living up north heat isn't a problem. It stays about 80 during the day and at night I dial the fan down to about half way to keep it 80 at night give or take depending how low it gets. I do get bugs on the screen so I clean it about once a week with a ladder I'm in the country so it isn't really a issue.

I'm going to start with getting 1k pipe cleaners I think they are 12 inches long, so if I cut them in half I would think 6 inches would work I could get 2k pipe cleaners but even if i only cut some down, it's better then none and makes them go further. My local shop has all the liquids for the ph meter cheaper or the same price as online, though his bluelab meter is 113 so I'll be getting that online with the fencing pipe cleaners and a new staple gun and stuff from lowes cuz my current took a shit on me. I'm also gonna be getting a door for the closet one way or another I need a damn door. I'm spending quite a bit on the new setup so I'm hoping it pays off..



Another thing, what do you store your coco in when you wet a 5 kg brick and got a lot left? I'm trying to dry it out and store in a tub but it's taking forever to dry lol.

Went to local hydro shop... Got bluelab meter probe cleaning kit storage solution and the gen hydro ph control kit for 196 I think it was for it all. Fencing and pipe cleaners will be ordered tonight or tomorrow with pics to follow of setup

Fencing, staple gun with staples, pipe cleaners a box of 1k for another 60 on amazon. I got the prime shipping on them too.

Bluelab says I need to soak it for 24 hours before use and calibration... Jesus what for?

Also forgot to add that the hydro guy gave me a ounce of flora plus said to use 1ml per gallon of water during flowering to "fatten things up" he said... I'm going to be using maxi loom kiss method.. Should I use flora plus too?

Also I'm taking ideas on seeds to order. The fencing is 4 feet tall, so I'm thinking 2-3 foot in veg, then flower to raise it up to the top of the fencing.. Not sure if a indica will do that so I was thinking blue dream but am open to cheaper ones.. More seeds is better. I'm hoping these clones are growing, they aren't dead and I ain't see roots so I hope they aren't going to...

I think I ordered everything I need to get ready for the coco hempy, wall of weed and kiss feeding.. Only upgrades I want is a truncheon meter, and maybe a environmental controller so I can hook a heater, the fan and all that stuff up when it's super cold out and snowing so that it keeps it 70-80 in there and not super fucking cold. I'm going to put ducting on the fan so it doesn't blow ice cold air on my plants I'll put ducting on it and place it under the fan that blows up on the light to make it cooler maybe... I'm still absorbing all this info... Is ph 5.8 good? That's what I been misting my clones with, along with teaming microbe root dip stuff just to try it out. I phed to 5.8 I put some nutes in cuz the bottom leaves of the clones are yellowed... I wish ppl would respond lol makes me not even wanna update..

Finally got my shit in the mail. A box of pipe cleaners... I'm actually impressed by them lol. Instead of just 1k thrown in a box they actually bundled them up by color.. And the fencing is more of a hard plastic then a mesh type plastic that I thought so that's good too

Another update... I got a available spare bedroom I can use for all my needs. I set the 3x3 tent up in it and I'm going to setup the vertical space in the corner if the room in a L shaped. It's got two windows but I'll only be using 1 because it's really cold now. High I think is 66 today low is 39 ill be blocking both off, painting the L part I'm going it be using and the rest of the space I got a desk, my tub of coco in there... All my growing supplies in there instead of it being scattered wherever I got space for it. I will post pics when done...I was thinking, the L could be a wall of weed, and I could sorround the other sides with plants that aren't w.o.w and compare results... Or just to enhance yield...depending on circumstances I could use both lamps I got the 600 and the 400 to equal 1k watts not totally sure how much it's going to raise the light bill. It's 200 a month now with a single 600 on 18/6 and using the normal equipment and all normal household usage... In the winter, I use a 10k btu ac or I'm going to be and that's about 1k watts too. I'm not sure if it's going to be able to cool the room with both lamps bare bulb but I'll find out if I decide to do it. I just don't want to raise the electric bill 100+ a month and not get results to pay for it u know? Over time that adds up.. Say I veg a month or 2 and flower at least 8-9 weeks so that's about 5 months or 500 bucks for just electric costs...



Also, with winter here maybe I should post my heating for winter? I use a wood stove so heating is basically free because I get the wood from the property I live on. Well... The work takes a toll on my damn back that's for sure... Just take a few hits and keep on goin!!!!

Just a little update, I'm still workin on the room. Got the tent setup, the intake in the window,fencing for the wall of weed is up, I got my tub of coco in there with a desk etc.. I'll take pics when done.. Should be done tonight or tomorrow...

I need a little help with the clones. They haven't died, but I don't know for sure if they are rooted or not.. But the lower leaves are starting to yellow... Should I do some maxi bloom? I was going to give a little dose of 1.7 grams.. I'm not sure when to start mutes on them.

When I clone in a substrate I give the clones a little pull to check for resistance from rooting.

drekoushranada said:

When I clone in a substrate I give the clones a little pull to check for resistance from rooting.

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I gave them a little tug and they didn't pull out I checked the root mass and don't see any on the outside... They aren't dead yet so I'm guessing they rooted, just very small roots ATM. I'm going to give them 1.7g of maxibloom and see how they respond. What's the best and easiest way to ph this? Should I ph m water to 5.8 mix the nutes in a mason jar ph that to 5.8 and mix? I'm not totally sure how to do this. I don't want to have to pour water out of the gallon 60 times until I get it correct but if I have to, I guess I will lol.

Whenever I get some time, I'm going to let this thread sink, and start a journal I'll prolly keep it here though instead of journal section

If I don't have to use slot I just mix up a gallon and after I add nutes I Ph from there. If it's not 5.8 on the dot don't drive yourself crazy with trying to adjust it.