Volcano Vaporizer Tip To Save Money

poplars

poplars

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poplars said:
sorry but the addiction to the other chemicals that come from combustion is a retarded stoner myth that has absolutely no scientific evidence backing it up.

you get higher longer from smoking because you're acutely getting more cannabinoids, and specifically getting those that vaporize at a higher temperature than most vaporizers reach.

vaporizers are great for most people, but if you run into someone who gets higher longer on smoke, that's their body, their preference. it isn't the extra contaminants getting th em high, it's the extra cannabinoids!!!

if you really want to try to continue this nonsense argument about contaminants I'd like to see a legit study that says that users get a compounded high from contaminants in smoke.... if not drop this bs immediately . ...

sorry I just had to jump on that little false statement.....
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and just to compound on my point, the only issues I"ve ever had using cannabis came when I started vaping, and I had a high quality vape (herbalaire...)

I don'twant to get into the bs of whether or not the vape caused my lung issues, I know for a fact it did, as I was smoking for years and years before switching to a vape, never had bronchitis or pneumonia, switch to vaping and I caught a cold (not teh vapes fault.) that I subsequently vaped through (my fault.) and the subsequent coughing caused my bronchitis(vapes fault.) which eventually caused pneumonia (not the vapes fault..but initially triggered by it.)

my lung would get inflammed every time I used the vaporizer after this.... now I switch back to glass and smoking... no lung problems ever since.
 
Brimi

Brimi

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poplars said:
sorry but the addiction to the other chemicals that come from combustion is a retarded stoner myth that has absolutely no scientific evidence backing it up.

you get higher longer from smoking because you're acutely getting more cannabinoids, and specifically getting those that vaporize at a higher temperature than most vaporizers reach.

vaporizers are great for most people, but if you run into someone who gets higher longer on smoke, that's their body, their preference. it isn't the extra contaminants getting th em high, it's the extra cannabinoids!!!

if you really want to try to continue this nonsense argument about contaminants I'd like to see a legit study that says that users get a compounded high from contaminants in smoke.... if not drop this bs immediately . ...

sorry I just had to jump on that little false statement.....
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So what happens to your body, when you get smoke poisoning? - because you don't get that from vaporizing. What about all the goodies like; Benzene and all those other goodies that only come with combustion?

Check this out on Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_inhalation
 
Brimi

Brimi

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poplars said:
and just to compound on my point, the only issues I"ve ever had using cannabis came when I started vaping, and I had a high quality vape (herbalaire...)

I don'twant to get into the bs of whether or not the vape caused my lung issues, I know for a fact it did, as I was smoking for years and years before switching to a vape, never had bronchitis or pneumonia, switch to vaping and I caught a cold (not teh vapes fault.) that I subsequently vaped through (my fault.) and the subsequent coughing caused my bronchitis(vapes fault.) which eventually caused pneumonia (not the vapes fault..but initially triggered by it.)

my lung would get inflammed every time I used the vaporizer after this.... now I switch back to glass and smoking... no lung problems ever since.
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I'm sorry, but i think you are wrong. Most scientific tests prove you wrong on this subject. Vaporizing IS way more healthy than smoking

Read this too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporizer_%28cannabis%29

And the scientific article: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070515151145.htm
 
poplars

poplars

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sure it proves it is more healthy through lack of chemicals, but there is NO evidence that the contaminants are getting you higher.

there is significantly more evidence that the smoke gets you higher because of more CBD's and higher boiling point cannabinoids than you get in vaporization.


I don't care if you think vaporizing is more heahtly, that's fine. but saying people get higher from smoke because of contaminants is outright stoner bullshit.

"Symptoms range from coughing and vomiting to nausea, sleepiness and confusion." from your wiki link.

sorry but sleepiness is caused from the cannabinoids, natural for cannabis to cause that. I don't get confusion from smoking, I doin't know anyone who does.

and I don't get nauseas or vomit..... there we go, already blew off all those symptoms and you still have no evidence of your bullshit claim of contaminants getting you high.
 
Brimi

Brimi

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poplars said:
sure it proves it is more healthy through lack of chemicals, but there is NO evidence that the contaminants are getting you higher.

there is significantly more evidence that the smoke gets you higher because of more CBD's and higher boiling point cannabinoids than you get in vaporization.


I don't care if you think vaporizing is more heahtly, that's fine. but saying people get higher from smoke because of contaminants is outright stoner bullshit.
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Well it says that the toxins from combustion intoxicates you and can cause for instance sleepiness. And by the way if you turn up the volcano to just before combustion you'll get CBD as well from what i read - just never needed it - i get plenty high from 187c and like the "up" high this gives.
 
poplars

poplars

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all I know is experience sums this up great for me:

all the people I know who just smoked weed, no ciggs, have no lung issues, no lung diseseas such as emphasema (there are no documented cases of this being caused by cannabis alone, bit with cannabis + ciggs theres a 2-3x higher risk.) only reports of bronchitis from over-zealous smoking.

no evidence of cancer from long term smoking, and everyone I know that has been smoking for a long time show virtually no life changing adverse effects.

you can go to vaping alll you want for personal reasons, fears of potential health risks, etc.

but for me, I know for sure there are no significant health risks by the mere number of studies stating such, and by the vast number of people I know that don't have any serious effects.

and another way I can prove your bullshit theory wrong about the contaminants, smoke some schwag. you didn't get high, you didn't feel sleepy,or anything for that matter besides a headache. THAT is the true effects of contaminants, not getting you a false high that will mistake you into believing smoking gets you higher than vaping.

for most people smoking DOES get you higher than vaping, this is a simple fact. I've adjusted my tolerance to vaping for months and still didn't get the same high as I did from smoking, this is from the CANNABINOIDS not the CONTAMINANTS.

and until you state a study SPECIFICALLY stating that contaminants cause such effects, you are full of shit, and continuing to state such bs will only lower your credibility. if you want to consider yourself an unbiased reasonable person, drop that bullshit.
 
del66666

del66666

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bought a volcano 0ver 3 years ago and quit smoking........best money i ever spent....i use oven bags ....nice and cheap 2 squid for 5 large....
 
Brimi

Brimi

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poplars said:
all I know is experience sums this up great for me:

all the people I know who just smoked weed, no ciggs, have no lung issues, no lung diseseas such as emphasema (there are no documented cases of this being caused by cannabis alone, bit with cannabis + ciggs theres a 2-3x higher risk.) only reports of bronchitis from over-zealous smoking.

no evidence of cancer from long term smoking, and everyone I know that has been smoking for a long time show virtually no life changing adverse effects.

you can go to vaping alll you want for personal reasons, fears of potential health risks, etc.

but for me, I know for sure there are no significant health risks by the mere number of studies stating such, and by the vast number of people I know that don't have any serious effects.

and another way I can prove your bullshit theory wrong about the contaminants, smoke some schwag. you didn't get high, you didn't feel sleepy,or anything for that matter besides a headache. THAT is the true effects of contaminants, not getting you a false high that will mistake you into believing smoking gets you higher than vaping.

for most people smoking DOES get you higher than vaping, this is a simple fact. I've adjusted my tolerance to vaping for months and still didn't get the same high as I did from smoking, this is from the CANNABINOIDS not the CONTAMINANTS.

and until you state a study SPECIFICALLY stating that contaminants cause such effects, you are full of shit, and continuing to state such bs will only lower your credibility. if you want to consider yourself an unbiased reasonable person, drop that bullshit.
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Well - your own personal experience is not very scientific. But when you want to bitch about it like that - whatever - smoking is healthy if that's what you want to hear. Maybe you are the bullshitter - i just try to provide some decent material so people can read the facts. If smoking makes you happy i say - go smoke something right now, because you're bitching.
 
Brimi

Brimi

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del66666 said:
bought a volcano 0ver 3 years ago and quit smoking........best money i ever spent....i use oven bags ....nice and cheap 2 squid for 5 large....
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Yes - tried those, but didn't make it work very well, so i just took an aquarium tube that worked very well. From what Poplars say you should probably start smoking again ;O)
 
poplars

poplars

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Brimi said:
Well - your own personal experience is not very scientific. But when you want to bitch about it like that - whatever - smoking is healthy if that's what you want to hear. Maybe you are the bullshitter - i just try to provide some decent material so people can read the facts. If smoking makes you happy i say - go smoke something right now, because you're bitching.
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lol wow your response sounds so scientific yourself.

sorry man I have no problem with you saying vaping may be healthier. it certainly isn't for me, b ut it could be for some people;.

the only thing I get on you about is that you try to say that smoking doesn't really get us higher because it's the contaminants.

still bullshit, you're still full of shit if you try to embrace this idiotic opinion backed by no fact whatsoever besides indirect associations of an egotistical cognitively biased stoner.
 
Brimi

Brimi

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poplars said:
lol wow your response sounds so scientific yourself.

sorry man I have no problem with you saying vaping may be healthier. it certainly isn't for me, b ut it could be for some people;.

the only thing I get on you about is that you try to say that smoking doesn't really get us higher because it's the contaminants.

still bullshit, you're still full of shit if you try to embrace this idiotic opinion backed by no fact whatsoever besides indirect associations of an egotistical cognitively biased stoner.
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Whatever dude - think what you want - think most people reading this will think you sound very ignorant too.
 
secretweapon

secretweapon

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When you combust you release carcinogens, your body responds to this by releasing antibodies. Vaporizing at the correct temp will give a different feeling but there isn't a release of carcinogens, tar and other nasty shit.

Skip to 5:50 for the explanation.
[video=youtube;a9luNVYlT_E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9luNVYlT_E[/video]



I say fuck it and perfer both, not at the same time.
 
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samsonlsp

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Using the volcano as a whip style vaporizer does work. Also instead of tying off the end of the bag you can run it into a bong, this I have dubbed the Vaporong, and it works wonders. There is also a glass bubble accessory that attaches to the top that you can purchase that branches out into a few tubes, hookah style, though reviews aren't the best. Bottom line is the volcano saves a massive amount of herbs and as said before the remains can be used for cooking applications very successfully. It taste better, you can feel the benefits to your lungs, the vapor dissipates quicker then smoke leaving your room fresher. Just remember to grind up your herbs in a grinder and set the right temperature for said herbs for best results. I definitely recommend purchasing one if you have the opportunity, I bought mine used from a friend for 200 USD and have had it for 6 years, still works great. One friend bought his off Craigslist for 300 USD, 3 years later works great. I know at least 15 people who have them and love them, and many more who have tried them and love them too. I see them on Ebay for around 300 USD, get that shit, believe it! lol ;)
 
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Divitus

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Yes. You will need to replace your plastic "whip". I have a whip style vape and i have to replace it occasionally. Don't think it's safe to try and clean that reclaim out of a plastic tube. Just food for thought. Stay safe!
 
Brimi

Brimi

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Divitus said:
Yes. You will need to replace your plastic "whip". I have a whip style vape and i have to replace it occasionally. Don't think it's safe to try and clean that reclaim out of a plastic tube. Just food for thought. Stay safe!
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If you use aquarium tube you'll be good. I have used the same tube on my Volcano for a year. When i clean it i get potent honey oil - similar to BHO. And this stuff is really potent.
 
moodster

moodster

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im using a da buddha and after the first go its nice 2nd go makes me cough my lungs up why is this ?
 
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silasraven

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Sr. Verde said:
Now your going to be buying new aquarium tubes when you gunk those up..


A volcano bag costs less than $5 for 9 feet.... at least 3 bags.. Thats like $1.60 for a month+ of bags... or less than $15 a year on bags...... Volcano's retail for like $450-$650....

Just doesn't make sense to me :lol:
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the volcano is so exspensive and all the others heat the smoke and make you puke
 
mellokitty

mellokitty

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arizer extreme q = all the bells and whistles of a volcano except the snazzy mouthpiece, 1/3 the price....
 
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