Voting Against Prop 19 means :
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veggiegardener
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medicalsb420
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tc- you little fucking peon! nobody is against progression in the movement. THIS BILL IS BULLSHIT! this is NOT the bill for our culture. You are blinded by the shine of what is being called "legalization." you have no sense of defending whats been made of this culture- probably because you have next to nothing to do with the advancements that have been made. I am in fact acting on my patriotic sentiments of not taking shit. this bill is profiteer bullshit, that will CRIPPLE the medical movement we have worked so hard to make feasible. this bill needs to be thrown in the fucking trash.
medicalsb420
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medicalsb420
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in the long run..
veggiegardener
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So your kid is pissed because you confiscated his Ipod and mentions to his teacher that you smoked in front of him?
Ooops!
Now the cops have come over, and discovered your plants cover 25.5 sq. ft!
And you suggest we just break the law, but keep quiet?
I think you're going to have a lot of problems if 19 passes.
tc1
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tc1
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You smoked in front of your child ... you broke the law.
You grew more than the designated 25 square foot ... you broke the law.
I'm not encouraging either of those two things. Hence ... "the possession, sale, and cultivation for responsible adults". You have the opportunity to legalize .. YES legalize (deal with it) ....
And you're huffing and puffing because you cant expose kids to second hand marijuana smoke or exceed 25sft? Really?
medicalsb420
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desperate? no, i'm fine. i'll be fine no matter what happens in nov. however i do hope all the people 19 does affect financially come to your house first. marijuana has been a medicine for 5000 years dick.
TokinPodPilot
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Once again, possession and cultivation for personal consumption are not illegal. Only sales are. Cannabis has been medicine for thousands of years. Seriously, if your argument is that you don't want to have to call it medicine, then that's just kind of sad. At least our objections to the clauses regarding the presence of children and garden limits are reasonable due to the fact that the language of the bill is ambiguous. Just because you can't be arsed to stand up for your rights is no reason to vote in blanket policy legislation that can have very disastrous results in many unpredictable ways.
Matt Rize
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http://www.steephilllab.com/industryreport/sept-oct-2010.pdf
Here goes Steep Hill Lab's report, They cover some of the possible affects of Prop on 19 on medical Cannabis.
"1- Shrinking of doctors’ sector. It seems feasible that if patients can get their cannabis without a doctor’s recommendation, they will do so.
2- Reduction of cannabis price overall. While this seems inevitable, Prop. 19 passing or not, the passing could speed up the process. Low income patients who cannot afford recommendations would be able to utilize local dispensaries. The increased demand would be met with increased supply and increased competition from dispensaries. This is a recipe for lower prices on the retail side.
3- Increased effort from outdoor growers to market their products. Outdoor cannabis is far cheaper to produce than indoor. With more price declines, outdoor cannabis becomes more competitive. Technological advances in outdoor growing are already closing the gap between indoor and high- end outdoor quality cannabis. With marketing, consumers may begin to migrate back to outdoor cannabis.
4- Expansion of capital investment from other industries. Investors are waiting for legalization. Hundreds of millions of dollars will flow into the industry over the next five years." Big up the researchers! Some really interesting ideas here, like the outdoor gaining in popularity. GO STEEP HILL LAB!
Here goes Steep Hill Lab's report, They cover some of the possible affects of Prop on 19 on medical Cannabis.
"1- Shrinking of doctors’ sector. It seems feasible that if patients can get their cannabis without a doctor’s recommendation, they will do so.
2- Reduction of cannabis price overall. While this seems inevitable, Prop. 19 passing or not, the passing could speed up the process. Low income patients who cannot afford recommendations would be able to utilize local dispensaries. The increased demand would be met with increased supply and increased competition from dispensaries. This is a recipe for lower prices on the retail side.
3- Increased effort from outdoor growers to market their products. Outdoor cannabis is far cheaper to produce than indoor. With more price declines, outdoor cannabis becomes more competitive. Technological advances in outdoor growing are already closing the gap between indoor and high- end outdoor quality cannabis. With marketing, consumers may begin to migrate back to outdoor cannabis.
4- Expansion of capital investment from other industries. Investors are waiting for legalization. Hundreds of millions of dollars will flow into the industry over the next five years." Big up the researchers! Some really interesting ideas here, like the outdoor gaining in popularity. GO STEEP HILL LAB!
tc1
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Yeah ... but it hasn't been regulated by the FDA for 5000 years ... Which is EXACTLY what will happen ONCE enough states pass medical laws and the federal government caves.
Then we're looking at a state of permanent medicalization and an even MORE uphill battle towards legalization.
Then you and every other medical marijuana patient will be told if you're sick enough and/or where you have to buy your medicine.
If you think the wild wild west medical marijuana programs are going to last forever ... you've got another thing coming. The government will eventually say "You want it as medicine? Fine ... we're going to treat it like medicine".
Cali.Grown>408
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Matt Rize
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Uh... enough guys. It is entertaining, but: Back to PROP 19. YES/NO WHY?
tc1
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Why do you insist on pretending like I don't believe in Medical Marijuana? I absolutely do ... so let's get that out of the way.
My argument is that ANYONE should be able to use marijuana ... a substance safer than alcohol. It shouldn't matter WHY you need it. The only thing that should matter is that it's your RIGHT to use it.
Several years ago I witnessed a family member struggle with cancer before he passed away. I grew marijuana for him to ease the pain. Don't sit here and tell me I don't believe in medical marijuana.
tc1
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You have smoked yourself retarded.
Never thought it was possible ... But indeed it clearly is.
Cali.Grown>408
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how many damn reasons do u need matt..this thread is on it's 33page or so lol
Cali.Grown>408
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