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Hi Victor!
Thanks for letting me know about the journal contest, I made one if you want to check it out.
I'm going to step up the nutes, I have a question as well, should I give them nutes at every watering? that's what I have been doing so far but some say just give them nutes every other time. You seem to know a lot so I rather listen to you than anyone else.
thanks
I love your journal, it's very informative

Azadeh said:

Hi Victor!
Thanks for letting me know about the journal contest, I made one if you want to check it out.
I'm going to step up the nutes, I have a question as well, should I give them nutes at every watering? that's what I have been doing so far but some say just give them nutes every other time. You seem to know a lot so I rather listen to you than anyone else.
thanks
I love your journal, it's very informative

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Well thanx. I have to admit it is somewhat selfish of me to suggest the journals. It does save us all time though, so I don't feel too bad about that. Your plants started out looking great, you didn't increase nute strength. I think with the SuperThrive and the Ionic you can save them. You will have to get a ppm meter or learn the plants. Ionic recommends an ec of 1.8. 1400ppm is 2.8, big difference. In addition there may be some ppm in your tap water, you would have to be able to check that and adjust for it, add that ppm to your 1400ppm.
If you can't get one now you will have to start increasing the amount of nutes you give them until they are 'looking healthy' again. I have never done that, I bought the Truncheon so I wouldn't be much help. Most of the folks that recommend the alternate nute solution and then plain water are primarily soil growers, in my opinion this is not a good idea when using coco. It doesn't have the soils contents to draw from, its an inert medium, which is why its a good medium for hydro growing. You need one of the experts and there are several here. Hey I remember, a New Member old grower, owns a green house, just checked in a couple of days ago, check the Welcome New Members thread, I'm sure he can help you. He has been growing for 28 years I think. Me? less than two. VV

Thanks for the advice victor, I'll give them more nutes. I don't have a ppm meter so I don't know when to step it up but I guess I increase until I see they have a little nute burn. So you give them four times the advised amount, thats a huge difference, no wonder my plants are all weak., they all had diarrhea
It's been hard to find people growing coco and hand watering. maybe I should have started with soil but the hydro guy said it was much easier than soil and grew better. It feels like they are sad every other day and need constant monitoring, but then the PH is all acting weired, last time I gave them PH 6 and the runoff was 5.5. I just don't get it. How can it change so much in two days?
Could you let me know how to find Hubert?
cheers

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VV, you still get great results with your T5's? i just took your advice in a thread you put up few months ago and put 1/2 blue 1/2 red spect bulbs.......

I know I havent posted in a while, I do have some pictures. I have a problem plant right now. If anyone wants to chime in on this one feel free. I took pictures of the cuttings that are under the T-5's and the ones that are just under floro's, I think you can see the difference. Now then, here is a front, top, and bottom view of the plant with the problem, and what is now just about the top fan leaf. Here are the ones I removed. Any ideas, I am all ears. Its on a table with 11 other plants, six are the same strain, none of the others is showing this?? It was not like this at 2:00, it was like this by 5:00 VV

Damn VV,

Those clones under the T5's are so much bigger and bushier than the others! Were they taken at about the same time?

Not sure about the problem plant. It seems odd that none of the others are showing the deficiencies. Could it be related to where it is positioned in the table and how the table fills/drains? Sorry I don't have more to offer.

Good Luck!

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hey VV just stoppin by. check out my journal. I followed your advice and they don't seem to be getting much better. Any ideas?

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/66204-sm0ke-s-2nd-grow-cheese.html

Azadeh said:

Thanks for the advice victor, I'll give them more nutes. I don't have a ppm meter so I don't know when to step it up but I guess I increase until I see they have a little nute burn. So you give them four times the advised amount, thats a huge difference, no wonder my plants are all weak., they all had diarrhea
It's been hard to find people growing coco and hand watering. maybe I should have started with soil but the hydro guy said it was much easier than soil and grew better. It feels like they are sad every other day and need constant monitoring, but then the PH is all acting weired, last time I gave them PH 6 and the runoff was 5.5. I just don't get it. How can it change so much in two days?
Could you let me know how to find Hubert?
cheers

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I'm not a computer guy, I can tell you what I would do. Go up to the top of the page and click on Member List. Its all alphabetical. When you find Hubert in the Member List, click on him and you will get his profile. Under the profile picture is a spot where you can find all threads statred by Hubert, one is Titled something like I am here to Help or at least try to. Tell him that wierd old man sent ya. VV

sm0ke5150 said:

hey VV just stoppin by. check out my journal. I followed your advice and they don't seem to be getting much better. Any ideas?

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/66204-sm0ke-s-2nd-grow-cheese.html

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I posted a comment there. Al B Fuct explains this much better than I can as a part of a discussion of different mediums. Earl uses the hydroton, but he uses Rapid Rooter type products not rockwool. Pretty much you don't want to flood the rockwool and you need to get the nutes up more than twice were you are now at 600ppm. VV

CaliGurl said:

Hey VV looking good Im waiting to see that Juicyberry

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Of course you know this means one of those seeds will have to be male, I didn't keep any of the Blue males. I still like that name, it just sounds JUICY, so Juicy. VV
PS. Germination after Memorial day.

rockfish said:

Damn VV,

Those clones under the T5's are so much bigger and bushier than the others! Were they taken at about the same time?

Not sure about the problem plant. It seems odd that none of the others are showing the deficiencies. Could it be related to where it is positioned in the table and how the table fills/drains? Sorry I don't have more to offer.

Good Luck!

~Rock~

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It could be, it is close to the flood fitting. One other one, same variety, is now showing the same kind of spots on the leaves. Neither of them looks 'unhealthy' and they were not right next to each other. There are twelve plants on that table so I don't think its a nute deficiency. I'm going to have to watch and see what happens.
I trimmed the plants that are under the t-5's today, the majority of them are doing fine, many of them have roots out the bottom af the pots. 70 plants total on those two tables.
Those clones were all taken on the 18th and 20th of April. We are down to 137 now from the original 17?, some of them were male hemp warp that hadn't shown sex yet.
Here is what those two tables look like today. You will notice the rockwool on the top. The sand has not proved to be a sucessful deterent for fungus gnats so we are going to try the rockwool again and going back too our weekly maintanance schedule for pest control using the Neem Oil and dishsoap that I mix myself. I will alternate that with a Rotenone Pyrethrins concentrate. Insects can build an immunity too one product, by alternating we should eliminate them.

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B. THC R+D said:

Hey Mister, A Question? Is The Problem Plant One Of The Bag Plants Shown Ealier In The Th. Db. U Member The Plant Pot Condoms. U Member, Member. Lol

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One of the things I hadn't thought of, not the case this time, these were planted before I bought the square pots. I removed all of the bags, it worked, I didn't like dealing with it and many of the plants have roots out the bottom, I don't think many will go out the side. They did come out easily.
Here are pictures of the two plants showing a problem?, plants #2 and #3, both are HempWarp and there are 3 other HempWarp on that table, 12 plants total, same everything. Plant #2 was on the outside left and Plant #3 was on the outside right before I trimmed the majority of those damaged? leaves.
Here are the pictures of Plant #2. I have not trimmed any of the damaged leaves off yet. Funny thing is on this plant this seems to be happening from the top down, Plant #3 seemed to start towrds the bottom and move up. #2 is 32" tall and I just put the prop in today because of all the moving. Here is what the bottom of it looks like, and the next shot is what the bottom of plant #3 looks like, thats the one I trimmed. The top, front and meristem of Plant #3, its 27" tall. Thoughts?? VV

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B. THC R+D said:

Me Books And Thoughts, Are Showing Leaf Pic's With, The Sim. Look... Were In The Potassium, And The Maganese, Along With Toxic Salts. !!!

My W. Widow In The Last Couple Days In The Blm. Side Looks Like Some Hit Her With A Yellow Shuvle Up Only One Side Of Her... She Is Real Big And Very Root Bond In Her Pot. So, Your Plants Being So Large, And Siting In The Table Systems, Makes Be Think Of A Poss. Deff....??? Have U Been Pushing Your Chems, Do They Need To Be Dropped Down, For A Bit. ??? We Both Know The Facts, And We Will Nail This Down! So Run Your "7" And Lets Nails These Little Pigs Down. Knowing That Uve Run The Basics Already, Whats Your Thoughts Now. Cleanlyness. Any Probs Othier Tables. Maybe Res. ??? Db.

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Thanx Lacy, I hope so too. I don't have any clues, all of them are in the same enviroment, these are not plants I damaged and the bottom growth on #3 seems to be picking up. I will be changing the reses so I will flush for a day. I am going to trim the rest of those leaves off both plants. No other plants are showing anything like this. VV

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