VV is singing the blues. From seed to Perpetual Weed.

GrnMan · Jun 20, 2008

You got any close up shots of those cola's VV?

bongsmilie

MistyXMountainXTop · Jun 20, 2008

Hey Vv I was wondering what that was you mentioned a few pages back. something called Mg shock. And you had a picture of a leaf. I've had something that looks like that problem. I'm using foxfarm big bloom and tiger bloom. They started getting like that, then a plant next to that plant started getting crispy leaves and I say four or five buds on the two right plants just like crisped up on the top. I've picked off all of the dead leaves, and I changed the rez., but One or two of the plants look like the top of the bud is too crispy. The plant in the middle next to the far right plant was looking great until this started. I didnt think that the nut.'s were anywhere near too high. Thanks for your help if you can give it. Peace everyone. Later on...
~MMT~

The first four are of the crispies.The last two are of the left ones that are doing fine.

VictorVIcious · Jun 20, 2008

Actually my friend Earl posted the picture with the mag deficience for me to use in comparing the leaves that seemed to die in a day on a couple of hempwarp Plants. Both Earl and DirtBagBrian (B. thc +r&d) would be abe to give you more help then I could, along with several others. The way I run my op, I wouldn't know one problem from another. And you can ask either one of them, they will tell you that VV doen's know sh*t about the plants. If I f on up, it stays that way til harvest. VV

MistyXMountainXTop · Jun 20, 2008

Alright well thanks anyways man. If anyone else has something to add let me know. They're kind of recovering, but I'd like to find out what it was specifically. So as to specifically avoid the prob. Again thanks. Later on...
~MMT~

VictorVIcious · Jun 20, 2008

GrnMan said:
You got any close up shots of those cola's VV?

Well, you see they really don't have much of a cola compared to anything else except the Satavis I had in the first grow. The HempWarp Look like colas from top to bottom, buds have not filled in like I had hoped. I won't really know until harvesting and weighing, they do seem to have a lot of dense small buds, they may suprise me, I think I will be lucky to get a pound from them. Kinda fit the plan though, allowing me to switch strains and still stay somewhat viable. Oh what the hell, here are picture of the Northern Berry, the HempWarp and the Skunkberry. Heights are 42", 34" and 30" respectively.

I have been working on a couple of aero clones, all of these are examples of different spray devices you can purchase at the big box stores for very little money and some of the items they have for modifiying the height of your spray head. I am going to start with the two pieces shown int he next picture, cost less than $3.00 and it will screw right on to mthe pump just like Filthy Fletch showed in his aero build thread. The pop up sprinlers work well if you have a taller res, mine is only 12" tall, I am only using it for clones. VV

VictorVIcious · Jun 20, 2008

I have been saying I would try to give folks an idea of the kind of investment that will be necessary to run and improve this type of operation. And I have been trying to save all of the receipts from the Hydro Shop, I think I am only missing one of those. As I was adding them up, I knew they didn't really tell the story, I probably spent as much at the big box stores and I did not keep all of those receipts. I do buy kinda like I post, I figure everything I need I need four of, if you need plumbing part see me first. lol SOoo.. any way from March 3 until June 3rd we spent $923.64 on nutrients and additives, $ 645.86 on supplies and $593.55 on two pieces of equipment, the tri-meter and another t-5 light, for a total spent there of $2153.05. The inventory of Nutrients should carry us thru the month. The supplies figure does include the $236.00 + tax we spent on the new square pots and we should not have to replace them for a while. No bucks no buck rogers. VV

Earl · Jun 20, 2008

I think the hempwarp will work great in my aero.

Looks like you need more light V_V,
to pack on more bud weight.

mistymtntop

If you are using tapwater
that may be your problem,
although my first guess is...

h2o2 could be the problem,
if you are using hydrogen peroixide,
then just stop it.....
don't do that next time,
there is no recovery.

Too much heat/low humidity.
also known as VPD
conbined with.....

Lights too close.

One or a combination of those four reasons.
.

B. THC R+D · Jun 20, 2008

HMMMMM!!! IF MINE SO MUCH AS HICK~UPS, IM GOING WITH THAT ONE! :mrgreen:

AGAIN VV

YA! RIGHT!....THE PROOF IS UN THE PUDDING PUDDIN!"
AND THOSE LAST PICS'
HOLE E CRAP!... SO DID SHE JUST RIP THE STICK RIGHT OUT OF YOUR HAND,??? PLEASE DONT TELL ME "U JUST HANDED THAT TO HER."~!!! :twisted:

IVE STARTED WEARING A "CUP" WHEN I GO IN NOW... THAT WHITE WIDOW.."MAKER" OF MINE NEEDS TO BE TAAAAAMED...!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :twisted:

NOW YOUR A COOKIE EATING, TOE SHOWING, GROW PROBER....
SHAME!~!!~!!!!!!!!~!~~!! :hump:

@MMT

IM NOT HYDRO, BUT BY JUST LOOKING AT YOUR PICS, JUST THE ONE SIDE IS SHOWING LIGHT BURN... MOVE AWAY A TOUCH... MAYBE MORE SEEING WE CANT, SEE IT.!!!

AND WITH THE ROLLED LEAF, HEAT... ROOM TEMP, OR POSS. RES. TEMP TOO HIGH... EARL WILL BETER KNOW THESE ISSUES THAN I....!!! :mrgreen:

IF EARL CHIMES IN THEN, U SHOULD BE PRETTY MUCH BACK ON TRACK, HE KNOWS HYDRO... LIKE A GURU!!!... SO "EARL"..................????

B. THC R+D · Jun 20, 2008

Man Late Too Class... Taking Desk...!!! Catching Up. High All!

MistyXMountainXTop · Jun 20, 2008

Thanks for the advice guys. The low humidity sounds like the best reason. I really dont think that my lights could have been too close. I was using peroxide constantly for about a week or more, but that was like three weeks ago or so. So you don't think this is nut. burn at all? Because once I know that for sure I can start upping them again to pack on the weight. All I have is the aero hood, a 75 watt HPS, and like a 23 CFL. So I just switch back and forth the HPS and CFL from side to side. And now I'm trying to get them to recover without giving them nut. burn. The plants on the left are doing fine, unharmed even. I'll show some pics of them. Again thanks for the help Earl and all. Later on...
~MMT~

Shit!!
I gotta do the pics tomorrow morning. My lights are off right now.

B. THC R+D · Jun 21, 2008

Lights Out Is A Good Time For Pic's Your Cam Has A Flash, So More Of A True Color For Us To Look At.... But U Realy Should Get A Journal Going So We May Talk There, And Deff. See Yur Porno' U Have The Makings Of A Good Journal... Realy!!! This Way We Can Let The Toe Showing, Grow Prober~ Get Back To His... Just My Thoughts, Seeing Im A Whore For More Journal Porn, The Better. Yur Allways Welcome To Come High'jack Me Journal Anytime!!! Would Like To Read Your Comms. There Also... More Heads Is Better.!!! Esp. Pot Heads. Lol Db.~tlb!

Earl · Jun 21, 2008

H2o2 will cause the leaves to get brittle
and turn a coppery greenish-yellow color.
There might be some blisters.

Growth will completely stop when this happens,
while the plant tries to repair the damaged roots.

If the plant is mature,
then you should harvest it,
because it will not add anymore budz.

How do I know this?
'Cause I done it also.

Flush it for as long as you can wait,
with plain RO,
and then chop it and start over.

Try to avoid H2o2 if at all possible,
and then the max dose for 35% h2o2 in RO
should be 2.5ml/gl....... if you must!

Dutch Master states on their web site,
that H2o2 will ruin the result,
and not to use any amount.

If you are using this band-aid,
to try to fix your hemorrhaging,
it will fail, or greatly reduce your yields.

Please try to grow without H2o2.

Use it for cleaning your stuff between grows.

I wash my fresh fruits vegetables with a mild H2o2 solution.
Keeps them fresh longer, especially grapes.

Get the temp of your rez under control,
and you won't need H2o2.

.

GrnMan · Jun 21, 2008

VictorVIcious said:
Well, you see they really don't have much of a cola compared to anything else except the Satavis I had in the first grow. The HempWarp Look like colas from top to bottom, buds have not filled in like I had hoped. I won't really know until harvesting and weighing, they do seem to have a lot of dense small buds, they may suprise me, I think I will be lucky to get a pound from them. Kinda fit the plan though, allowing me to switch strains and still stay somewhat viable. Oh what the hell, here are picture of the Northern Berry, the HempWarp and the Skunkberry. Heights are 42", 34" and 30" respectively.

I have been working on a couple of aero clones, all of these are examples of different spray devices you can purchase at the big box stores for very little money and some of the items they have for modifiying the height of your spray head. I am going to start with the two pieces shown int he next picture, cost less than $3.00 and it will screw right on to mthe pump just like Filthy Fletch showed in his aero build thread. The pop up sprinlers work well if you have a taller res, mine is only 12" tall, I am only using it for clones. VV

Nice, so you are thinking a pound from 3 plants?

bongsmilie

VictorVIcious · Jun 21, 2008

I stopped using hydrogen peroxide and started using double air stones about 9 months ago when Pot Roast and Al B Fuct pointed out that h20s will kill your organic nutes along with the algea and other pathogens. Doesn't make any sense to use good nutes and then kill them by using h2o2 no matter what the dose. Those plants are just about ready to harvest. The trees have been flushing for just about two weeks now and the HempWarp/ Skunkberry for about a week. VV

VictorVIcious · Jun 21, 2008

Thanx GrnMn but this is sog style not monster style. More plants, just colas. I have done some experimenting with different numbers of plants on my tables all the way down to 12 on a 4' by 32" table. This time I am going to go the other way, More plants, bottom trimmed off, no vegging time, at least that is the goal that we are working towards. VV

mastakoosh · Jun 21, 2008

a ton of knowledge in this journal along with some beautiful growing. i want to sog perpetual as soon as i move and can get setup right.

VictorVIcious · Jun 21, 2008

Thanx koosh. Raising lights is a pain in the..... back. I have asked about the different devices, most say they are not worth it, I think this one is. $20.00 on sale, 50# capacity and can be adapted to your light style. VV :blsmoke:

honkeytown · Jun 21, 2008

Nice buds VV...I had to subscribe...I am having the same issues and am about to go perpetual....good stuff man

B. THC R+D · Jun 22, 2008

Good Morn. From The West~side! ........ Puff Puff! Pass.

Clearing Sleep From Eyes....,, What The! ??? Yur Teaching Them How To Ride Bikes Now!!! ???
Ok Wait?... Its To Hang Yur Light! Nice Mister. That Way They Cant Pull It Down.

Yur Allways One Step Ahead Of Me. Very Nice Thinking. At Desk Waiting For The Bell....

Went Alittle Abf! On The Clones A Seek Peek In Me J'...! Off To Do More Catching Up! Post U Later. Db.

Any More Porn??? I Need A Fixxen Bt.!~

PlasmaRadio · Jun 24, 2008

Yo VV.

I'm designing my next build and I want to go t5 for flowering. But I am having undue stress about it. Can I really pull it off or should I just use the good old HPSs?

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