VV is singing the blues. From seed to Perpetual Weed.

Glad you like it, the led light distorts pictures, the desk is what I have left.lol VV

I have some Widow/ CIndy seeds I started germinating a couple of days ago that I am going to be planting in Rapid Rotters, not many just a table full, maybe a few extra because we will surley get some males. If anyone wants to see that process let me know soon, and I'll take pictures. VV

I want to see the WC.

Here are the StinkyWidowCindy

Well...ok, I did just start planting them around 1:00 yesterday though so there isn't much to see, I planted the seeds that had popped, three hours later several more were ready and 36 of them have have been planted, several are above ground now, still not much to look at. I think you have a winner as far as the seeds are concerned, I put 45 in to germinate, lost one that popped open when I went to plant it, 6 of the remaining 8 had popped this morning so I had to make a duffer, you know, a waste not want not measure that will do for now. This of course means we may have some Widow Cindys available for a deserving new grower that lives close enough to stop by and pick them up. VV
PS. Did you get that article?

Grow vv~! Grow!..............................love the bb' pic's, crap luv the hole op', very nice!
So new journal or adding on to this one.?
And i see earl' is growing in buckets. ??? Apple possible ??? May be used.??? Db.~tlb!

Thanx DirtBag. Three of the four Juicy Fruit turned out to be male, I put one in with the tomotoe plants outside, will try and collect some pollen from it. Just to update those following the WidowCindys, 36 were planted Friday, 6 more the next day, when I got back from the lake today the remaining 2 seeds had popped open and went with the other spares. Here they are today. VV

I know this thread is over 2 yrs old, but I thought I'd give it a shot anyways. Victor Vicious, you seem to be the shiznit when it comes to T5's, so I'm hoping I can get some feedback from you. I'm planting 8 autoflowering, dwarf plants (4 White Dwarf, and 4 Lowryder2 X AK47) in a 30 gal reservoir with a T5 CFL setup. I plan on going from seed to smoke with the T5 setup, and was wondering if I could expect some good quality plants using these lights. The total area is less than 3' X 3 Here's the lights I'll be using:

Compact T5 GROW mh/BLOOM hps FLUORESCENT LIGHT 2'ft CFL - eBay (item 180240561414 end time Sep-04-08 08:44:11 PDT)

I looked at a light like that for clones and mothers. The output for the size of the fixture is pretty good, I don't think you will flower 8 plants with it though. If you take a look a few posts back from this one a the update picture's I think you can see what I am talking about. The fixtures over those tables are 4'-8 bulb t-5's and the lumen output is 40,000 or four times what you are talking about here. Look at the light pattern at the sides of the tables, the tables are 32" wide, that is pushing that light to the max for coverage in my opinion. I believe the light you are considering will maybe cover a 2' by 2' and that's about the extent. I also believe its ideal for over clones. The only down side is you can not evenly mix bulb spectrums, its two bulbs together not one blue, one red, one blue.one red. like you can have with the straight bulbs. VV

Thanx for the speedy reply, VV, I appreciate that. Okay, here's my situation: I have about $130 total left to spend, and that needs to cover the lights, hydroton, rockwool, and PH testing kit, so my budget for the lights is about $100 so I can afford the other materials. What do you suggest? It will be a closet grow, so T5's seem like the best option. Since I'm growing autoflowering plants that will max out at about 17", can T's be used the whole way through if I mix the lights? For some reason, when I click on the first link, it says the page is unavailable. Once again, thanx for all the help.

ThaGreenBandit said:

Thanx for the speedy reply, VV, I appreciate that. Okay, here's my situation: I have about $130 total left to spend, and that needs to cover the lights, hydroton, rockwool, and PH testing kit, so my budget for the lights is about $100 so I can afford the other materials. What do you suggest? It will be a closet grow, so T5's seem like the best option. Since I'm growing autoflowering plants that will max out at about 17", can T's be used the whole way through if I mix the lights? For some reason, when I click on the first link, it says the page is unavailable. Once again, thanx for all the help.

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I don't think you can cover the area with t-5's for that kind of money, and cfls would be your better option. There are many journals posted here of closet growers and the success they have had with them. I really haven't researched cost on them, I did take a look at some high powered ones for a reasonable price, like $20/ bulb, they required mogul sockets, another $10.00 or so. Most folks use the ones that fit a standard base, I don't know their totals, I am sure they would share that information.
Yes, the t-5 lights can be used the whole way, for clones and seedling I just start with 4 of the 8 bulbs lit, but that is 20,000 lumens. Based on the budget, and the amount of plants, get what you can afford to balance, you will have some males? and maybe add a light or so as your budet allows, if nothing else you will at least change your cash outflow for weed to an investment. If you mean my current setup isn't available by link? you can always pull up my profile and click on Threads Started, there are only a few, that link should work, the real discussion of the t-5's and the results I got with strains I had grown for a year are there, the t-5's are not inexpensive, there is a minimum investment necessary, payback is there. And those trees in my Avatar were grown under t-5's. Hope this helps? VV

Yeah, I've looked at a bunch of the threads, which are very helpful. I think my main problem is that I'm still a little unclear about the whole lighting thing. Right now, I'm trying to figure out a DIY solution to my problem. So T5 CFL's are the best bet in my situation? The buds on your trees, which are nice as hell, are they compact or fluffy and airy? I've read that T5's promote great resin production. Was this the case for you? I'm using feminized seeds, so I don't think male plants will be an issue. Thanks, once again, for helping a noobie brotha out. I'm learning slowly but surely...

Daddy dont play!.... Surf back a bit, there's a bud that BT' is trying to cram in a jar! "the large kind".... And it bit him! Lol!

@ the VV' ~ "toe shower" !!! Hehehehe!

Great Thread, I just put 15 GDP and Three Aura Indicas In a Cup of water and then in the Napkin three days ago, They have almost all opened and are now in rapid rooters!! I put them in the rooters yesterday morning and today they have almost all came up!! I did fifteen of the GDP recently and got 7 females, They are beauties four weeks into flowering.. The Aura Indicas I tried germinating seven and not one made it, I was a little disappointed seeing how I ordered those online from a well known Seed bank, Hopefully the Three I have left will make it, Seem to be opening slowly..

I dont give them any type of nutrient until they have there first set of true leaves, I figure it will weed out the weak ones!! Any suggestions as to get stronger healthier plants would be and is appreciated!!

Well.... that is interesting Thrazx, now you need to put this is your journal so folks can follow it. VV

is this organic grow?

I don't think it would qualify as an 'organic grow'. It might in some States. The medium, coco-coir, is and the nutes are, that is the reason I use the double air stones in each res. I am not sure the RO water I am using qualifies.
Just a quick update, I transplanted the WidowCindy's last night and modified a new rolling cart I bought to put lights over them. So far 37 of the original 44 have been transplanted and it looks like three more will make it, so around 90% success with these seeds. And... here are the clones we took at the last cutting, no obvious fatalities yet, you may see some mothers in the background, ready for the next cuttting. That gives me in the neighborhood of 80 plants to put into final size pots over the next week or so. I am satisfied that one more round of cuttings would get me to perpetual harvest, just not happy with the mother plants yet. There does seem to be a learning curve there to me, others don't seem too have that problem???? Hmmm... It does seem like I am getting long enough stems now, they are getting so tall I will have to top them to keep them. And their replacements are not doing as well as I had hoped. 3 of the four juicyfruits were male, the pollen from one has been harvested and the remaining female was already pulled back to the mother table, I may have to take a clone or two off of her whether she is ready or not. I did take one early clone from the BlueBerryMother we saved and it seems to be doing well, maybe I just want too may clones too fast? VV

That lot must keep you pretty busy VV.
You can see in the quality that you have put a lot of time in.
How come you have purple light? It almost looks like the UVB I have on one of my plants, (my avatar)
Looking forward to seeing your progress as I am toying with the idea of a few harvests if not perpetual.

Feel tree to stop by.

Uhhh.... because blue and red make purple?? That is the led light you are seeing. VV

Whats up Doc?? i need some of that real medication. sensi bleed through out the nation. RastaMAn

hey hazy, every thing back to normal? Medibud is just about ready. VV