w.t.f. is going on? been researdhing fro 3 days and nothing. PLEASE HELP

abrooks2152

abrooks2152

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For what it's worth the fella who said that it was the mosaic virus I would like to say thank you very much for your insightI have looked on the internet for 3 days and have not found one picture that resembled my issue I googled what you had said and I have found over a dozen possibly over two dozenI appreciate you taking the time to tell me what was up thanks
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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TMV or broad mites are the two obvious diagnosis. Big debate about whether TMV exists in cannabis, no debate about broad mites. I would pursue both. Forbid is good for broad mites and I don't have any idea what you could treat TMV with.
 
oilmaker68

oilmaker68

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I have to say that tmv is also a possibility but my first thought was broad mites. If you can't find any mites I suppose that diagnoses itself
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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Can you guys please stop guessing and read this link....http://pogenetics.com/?page_id=389
You can send them a pic and they will help you diagnose your plant.
If you are going to look up info on the internet...you must look at the source to see if its credible i.e. scientific backing, date, revised? all that. Their are always new findings about cannabis bc they have only been studying it extensively for 20 yrs.
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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To me its a start of root issue. causing lockout. If you cant find bugs/eggs on her anywhere than no bugs. you need a 30x scope to check her out. TMV on cannabus in containers, i dont think so. We are not reinventing the wheel
I have a question for abrooks.
in your pots what kind of drainage do you have? Do you have rocks at the bottom? see when water sits on the bottom and doesnt drain the roots start turning to a brown mush.. Tell me about your pots. when you water say with 1 quart how much comes out. Oxygen loss in the bottom starts doing what i am seeing in your pics.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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having had a bad broad mite infestation, I am not seeing this as being from the mites, and it takes at least 60x mag to see broad mites. I also agree that TMV in cannabis is Nonsense. I am liking what DCobeen posted above.
 
DCobeen

DCobeen

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if you think all the water/feed isnt draining out drill 4 holes in the bottom take a similar pot add 3 inches of rocks place that pot into the one with rocks now you have perfect drainage. The roots can make or break a grow. trust me i have had my run in with root issues. not anymore.
 
abrooks2152

abrooks2152

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DC giveobee
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I have them in 5 gal perforated pots with water drainage plates under them is no gravle in the bottom. I will do as you recommend. I have a little mag light with 50× mag. I have scoured for days for even 1 bug and nothing. I consort with no other growers, I don't use clones, and have micro filtration on my intake air duct. I am convinced that mites are not it. I have had mites once years ago and it Wasn't anything like this. I Have drainage holes but the just catch over flow and it still just sets there to be collected by the plants roots or evaporates. I am going to add rocks into another bucket of the same size which happens to be 5 gallon containers. Giving a few more inches to drain.
 
Bugeye

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Poor aeration tends to give a plant an overwatered look, not a TMV or broad mite look. Have heard you can see broad mites on bottom of leaves with 10X magnification and have heard it is hard to see them with 100X magnification. Broad mites and spider mites are nothing alike. Good luck!
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Bugeye said:
Poor aeration tends to give a plant an overwatered look, not a TMV or broad mite look. Have heard you can see broad mites on bottom of leaves with 10X magnification and have heard it is hard to see them with 100X magnification. Broad mites and spider mites are nothing alike. Good luck!
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Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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lol 2 minutes you wont find it....
if you type in anything about cannabis and try to be specific when googling you get all the same pics all the time lol
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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Bugeye said:
Your link doesn't present all the looks of broad mite damage so may not be convincing. It can often present with the curled leaves so op should google for more pics of damage.
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Ive explained that you get both effects from broad mites... the mozaic and/or twisting and curling in post #6. Mozaic turns to taco too sometimes.Link does too TY for being polite enough to point that out tho... I always know what I mean..lol;)
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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oh also if it was the virus , you would have to throw all your plants out bc their is no cure right? I almost threw my whole shit out...and thankfully I searched and researched found out it was broad and saved the fuckin day.:peace:
 
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