Tht_Blk_Guy27
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any additives or amendments that can help add bulk or size? currently using a late Bloom Booster from roots organic but would like to see what else i could be trying! TIA
Wanting to add bulk but organically
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pulpoinspace
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bro your avatar got me looking up the nearest cinnabon
Tht_Blk_Guy27
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Running a timber cypress 4 right now at 35% light. On 18/6 and our medium is gonna be a pro mix bx with some added peat moss
Jloi
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If your plants have a few true nodes on them with no heat issues in the Space. I would bump the lighting up. If your feeding is dialed in, I would add CO2 set up with monitor. Small tent set up, looking around $500 all said and done. You won’t be disappointed and will pay for itself in the first cycle.
I used to grow in soil less medium for years (fox farms). Switch over to hydro and will never go back. Night a day difference in growth and harvest if you have the fund and wish to do so. With a 5x5 tent and CO2, I’m getting 2 pounds average.
I used to grow in soil less medium for years (fox farms). Switch over to hydro and will never go back. Night a day difference in growth and harvest if you have the fund and wish to do so. With a 5x5 tent and CO2, I’m getting 2 pounds average.
Jloi
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lmfao,
I get that all the time. Dude, I seen that photo years back and thought the same. Stuck with it since.
Tht_Blk_Guy27
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Actually contemplating a switch to hydro come end of summer so I can upgrade my indoor! Outdoor is cheesecake but I won't lie I've struggled mightily indoor lol I've been seeded, hermed on, root rot you name it I probably did it to my plants. I've come leaps and bounds now but I know there's more I can get out of my gals. Not using co2 but I've ordered some in those exhale bags. I have my veg tent running in the 80 range so I'm hoping co2 will boost that.
MICHI-CAN
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Just hit me.LOL.
Jloi
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Depending on the NPK Nute levels in the bloom booster. You could run with it?(not knowing brand). I’ve ran full cycles of Veg only Nutes before for Auto Flowering because the higher Phosphorus wasnt agreeing with the strain (Cookies and Cream).
He’s running Pro Mix Bx, so pretty much Peat Moss.
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Jloi
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If your area isn't Exhausting outside the room the CO2 will help a bit. Personally I run my lights at full power all the time with seed or clone. I just raise the light until the 2nd or third week. Then I drop it inches above to the canopy. I keep Plastic over them so the grow medium doesn’t dry out in the early stages.
I like soil, but disposing of it was becoming a issue of where the hell do I do with all of it.
Personally, hydro was more cost up front. But cheaper on the backend for myself since I always amended the soil. Once you got a good grasp at Soilless/soil mediums. Then I’d switch to Hydro. The organic mediums are treated pretty much like Rockwool when feeding.
Jloi
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This is the Cookies and Cream Auto that was feed Veg Nutes only full cycle. She didn’t like the extra phosphorus. Started as a seed under a full 650watts never dialed down in light power. I personally don’t like Auto’s but it was free. So why not. This one harvested 7oz dry
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Tht_Blk_Guy27
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im both asking the question for my flower tent and to carry that information onto the vegging girls as they moved up. I didn't like what I saw from the regiment I was giving and I've changed my environmental factors quite a bit so I figure it had to do with my nutrition. i also figured many products that would help would probably need to be added sooner rather than later (going to up my intensity to 40-45%) so I might has well flower em soon
Tht_Blk_Guy27
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I never thought of that. Explains why I had so many issues with my trizzler auto from twenty20 Mendocino. I even broke my feedings down to a 1/4th of the instructed feed and always had issue. I'm running a solo cup run so I can definitely try those on my tester autos.
Tht_Blk_Guy27
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i just got this timber cypress 4 so i was learning how dimmable light work and how i can fit that into my grows! never had one so I've been a little kid recording the growth and all that. its currently a solo cup run in a tent and i plan on turning the lights up to 50% then initiating flower and going all the way up. these lights are close use (up to 6IN in flower) so i want to utilize that to my advantage with my tent size space is limited
youraveragehorticulturist
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Continue to feed a little nitrogen through flower. Don't go crazy, but you can use a little neem or alfalfa, or even Roots veg formula right up to week 7 or 8 to keep things green. In a 7 gallon pot I might do 1 teaspoon of neem with 2 or 3 teaspoons of Bloom through mid flower. Then switch to Bloom Booster, every week or 2.
Keep your microbes kicking! Top dress with compost or EWC, or use some bottled microbe, or make compost tea. However you decide to do it, do something every 2-3 weeks to recharge biology to keep your soil active and your plants happy.
If you're into messing around and doing a bunch stuff, consider using some kind of Silica when you water. Theorically it will help your plants stay strong and healthy and withstand the intense conditions of flowering. And help resist mold.
Maybe think about using Fish Hydrolysate (like one half to one teaspoon per gallon of water) every week or two. Allegedly the amino acids in the fish guts stimulate the uptake of other nutrients and minerals by your plant. And you get some nitrogen and phosphorus too.
It seems like tweeds need less calcium during the last half of flower. If you have hard water, with a bunch of calcium in it, it can be enough excess calcium to cause yellowing and maybe even temporarily cause lockout issues. Consider using RO water, or distilled water, or rainwater or dehumidifier water during the second half of flower to prevent these issues.
Keep your microbes kicking! Top dress with compost or EWC, or use some bottled microbe, or make compost tea. However you decide to do it, do something every 2-3 weeks to recharge biology to keep your soil active and your plants happy.
If you're into messing around and doing a bunch stuff, consider using some kind of Silica when you water. Theorically it will help your plants stay strong and healthy and withstand the intense conditions of flowering. And help resist mold.
Maybe think about using Fish Hydrolysate (like one half to one teaspoon per gallon of water) every week or two. Allegedly the amino acids in the fish guts stimulate the uptake of other nutrients and minerals by your plant. And you get some nitrogen and phosphorus too.
It seems like tweeds need less calcium during the last half of flower. If you have hard water, with a bunch of calcium in it, it can be enough excess calcium to cause yellowing and maybe even temporarily cause lockout issues. Consider using RO water, or distilled water, or rainwater or dehumidifier water during the second half of flower to prevent these issues.