War on WYMIN!!!

desert dude

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because every pro life organization is also anti birth control
I think contraception is a wildly popular issue with the American public. I don't know any stats, but I would guess contraception is supported by at least 70% of adults.

You are certainly correct about the "pocket book issue", but that should not stop BC pills from becoming OTC. When the dems stand up and lock arms and push the OTC issue then I will take their new found love of birth control pills, and women, seriously.


http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/religion/news/2012/02/23/11133/the-morality-of-contraception/
[h=3]America’s churches support contraception[/h]Of course Rep. Issa, the Catholic bishops, and anyone else who believes contraception is immoral have every right to speak and preach against it. But it is also true that millions of Americans of faith also have a religious liberty to support and use contraception. Indeed, virtually all major denominations in America support the morality of contraception as a personal and family decision—one that helps to ensure responsible parenthood and healthy families.

  • The Episcopal Church as early as the 1930s approved contraception for purposes of family planning. The church calls on its programs and projects to “provide information to all men and women on a full range of affordable, acceptable, safe, and non-coercive contraceptive and reproductive health care services.”

  • The United Methodist Church, the second largest Protestant denomination in the United States, says that “each couple has the right and the duty prayerfully and responsibly to control conception according to their circumstances.”

  • The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, the largest Lutheran body in the United States, supports the use of safe, effective birth control methods and believes that they encourage “responsible procreation.”

  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or the Mormon church, supports all methods of contraception except surgical sterilization. In fact, church-owned Brigham Young University’s student health center offers premarital health classes that present a range of birth control options, and affordable contraception is dispensed at the on-site pharmacy.

In addition to supporting contraception, some religious organizations have taken public stands supporting contraception as a basic part of health care, with a role for government in providing it.

  • Presbyterian Church USA supports “full and equal access to contraceptive methods,” and in a recent resolution endorsed coverage for contraceptives as a “part of basic health care.” The church said that “unintended pregnancies lead to higher rates of infant mortality, low birth weight, and maternal morbidity, and threaten the economic viability of families.”


  • The Mennonite Church USA believes access to contraception provides an alternative to abortion and calls on the church and government to promote teen pregnancy prevention programs, family planning, and contraceptive services, in order to reduce the need for abortion.
 

Flaming Pie

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Canna Sylvan

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I think contraception is a wildly popular issue with the American public. I don't know any stats, but I would guess contraception is supported by at least 70% of adults.

You are certainly correct about the "pocket book issue", but that should not stop BC pills from becoming OTC. When the dems stand up and lock arms and push the OTC issue then I will take their new found love of birth control pills, and women, seriously.


http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/religion/news/2012/02/23/11133/the-morality-of-contraception/
[h=3]America’s churches support contraception[/h]Of course Rep. Issa, the Catholic bishops, and anyone else who believes contraception is immoral have every right to speak and preach against it. But it is also true that millions of Americans of faith also have a religious liberty to support and use contraception. Indeed, virtually all major denominations in America support the morality of contraception as a personal and family decision—one that helps to ensure responsible parenthood and healthy families.

  • The Episcopal Church as early as the 1930s approved contraception for purposes of family planning. The church calls on its programs and projects to “provide information to all men and women on a full range of affordable, acceptable, safe, and non-coercive contraceptive and reproductive health care services.”

  • The United Methodist Church, the second largest Protestant denomination in the United States, says that “each couple has the right and the duty prayerfully and responsibly to control conception according to their circumstances.”

  • The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, the largest Lutheran body in the United States, supports the use of safe, effective birth control methods and believes that they encourage “responsible procreation.”

  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or the Mormon church, supports all methods of contraception except surgical sterilization. In fact, church-owned Brigham Young University’s student health center offers premarital health classes that present a range of birth control options, and affordable contraception is dispensed at the on-site pharmacy.

In addition to supporting contraception, some religious organizations have taken public stands supporting contraception as a basic part of health care, with a role for government in providing it.

  • Presbyterian Church USA supports “full and equal access to contraceptive methods,” and in a recent resolution endorsed coverage for contraceptives as a “part of basic health care.” The church said that “unintended pregnancies lead to higher rates of infant mortality, low birth weight, and maternal morbidity, and threaten the economic viability of families.”


  • The Mennonite Church USA believes access to contraception provides an alternative to abortion and calls on the church and government to promote teen pregnancy prevention programs, family planning, and contraceptive services, in order to reduce the need for abortion.
I think birth control pills are great. It keeps libtards from breeding. It also has a chance of causing a serious reaction, cancer, or even death. So it's a win win.
 

Rob Roy

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yeah, just a $7000 pregnancy instead of a $30 packet of pills.

:clap:

misogyny make smart.
The amount stolen does not change the fact any money taken against anothers will is still theft. Are you in favor of making people pay for things that their religion forbids?
 

schuylaar

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To top it off, an appeals court reinstated the Texas abortion law. Queue the scary music. Tax payers won't pay for contraceptives... Tax payers will only provide hundreds of abortion clinics in Texas. What's a girl to do?
wrong. of the 40 (forty) or so clinics 1/3 have now been closed.

Women get pregnant because they refuse to pay $30... That groovethang make smart.
do you know the meaning of "then, let them eat cake"?

Hormones to control illness are covered. Contraceptives are not. Cry in your wheaties. An employer who has a legitimate religious objection to contraceptives should not be forced to subsidize those who violate his religious principles. This is fucking constitution 101.
wrong..all contraceptives are covered with co-pay..

If you really want to help women with birth control then make them over the counter. They are less dangerous than aspirin, and dirt cheap. I would absolutely support that. Why won't you progs support that? The obvious answer is because you don't want to give up the wedge issue, i.e. you could give a fuck less about women unless they are fodder for your control of the world.
are you a physician?..i'm so glad "men understand" how to "really help a womEn"..if only we had more like you..we would be complete..

Apparently, the DC court of appeals sees it the same way I see it. You work for me, I set the pay and benefits. You are free to resign if the terms are unacceptable. Constitution 101, first amendment.
:lol: i just love employers with this attitude..one letter from my employment attorney(on contingency like personal injury) usually nets me $10k, in addition to severance as my contract stipulates:mrgreen:

BC pills are dirt cheap. They are free to poor women through any number of outlets and have been for decades. Women are not having babies because they can't afford BC pills. Don't be duped by this gen'ed up war on women, at's all bullshit.
I'm starting to think this was part of the negotiations with Big Pharma we all saw on C-SPAN. There is no logical reason why BC pills shouldn't be OTC. Please consult with your doctor before beginning birth control pills is a simple message.
perhaps it is for the same reason that Andro-Gel is not:dunce:

Yep, wanting to protect people's first amendment rights is the same as being against abortion. What a tool you are.

And what on earth did women do for BC pills before? OMG!!! why did it take so long? we've been suppressing women's rights to pay a co-pay for pills or get them free at a clinic! since the dawn of time!!

they did this:
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You had to have a severely weak mind to fall for this still.
Hey lookie here, proof I pay taxes, just like UnckleBuck

$10k gross by july is nothing to write home about..neither is the 800$ bi-weekly gross..

Our method of medicine needs to evolve. Community based care is shown over and over to be the most effective. We could have free clinics tied to schools where part of your core curriculum is doing so many rotations there. Tuition paid for medical degrees could cover costs as well as a small 3 or 4 dollar fee to the patient to combat SOME of the abuse. Working a year after graduation at a reduced salary could be seen as your internship. Just one of many things that would have better outcomes. When communities focus on care, the people in Appalachia will have care catered to them and people in Miami will have care catered to them. One size fits all only works when we are all the same size.

This country is declining in health thanks to our FDA and USDA allowing our food supply to become either hopped up on hormones or processed. Allowing this same entity to completely take over health care is a recipe for disaster in this country. Big Pharma sits on FDA and makes policy, Hospital corporations and insurance companies helped write Obamacare, we're being played. I can't even pretend to know how to combat this. How do we reduce corruption in a growing power?

I believe in universal catastrophic care at the most.
yeah, you might want to ask our UK or Irish friends how that's working out for them..

The amount stolen does not change the fact any money taken against anothers will is still theft. Are you in favor of making people pay for things that their religion forbids?

is it "theft" you are concerned with or just your fairweather christianity that you leverage for just such an occasion?
 
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