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Roger A. Shrubber

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It could end up being a condition for a peace deal, one they might end up desperately needing. I don't see a peace deal while Putin is in power, and I don't see one without them returning kidnapped Ukrainian kids either. Peace might be harder for Russia to obtain than merely returning to their 1991 borders. If they can't be brought to justice, Ukraine might want to hunt the murders down inside Russia and might not sign a peace until they do. Let the sonofabitches roast for a while. Revolution in Russia might be desirable and the only way to effect political change in Russia and break up what's left of the evil empire.
That's a oxymoronic situation....You can't get putin out of power till it happens, and it can't happen with putin in power.
what the hell word am i trying to think of, Canna?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That's a oxymoronic situation....You can't get putin out of power till it happens, and it can't happen with putin in power.
what the hell word am i trying to think of, Canna?
since those washed out, the best I got is not a word but the phrase “double bind”, for which impasse is a “soft” synonym.

Neither dilemma nor paradox fit.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
How about 60N. Lot of empty space in Alaska ya know. Muskeg and moose and not a lot else but oil. ;)

:peace:
There is something utterly solitary about the few bits of land around 60S that the comparatively crowded line of demarcation between the provinces and the territories cannot match.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
That's a oxymoronic situation....You can't get putin out of power till it happens, and it can't happen with putin in power.
what the hell word am i trying to think of, Canna?
How can you make a deal with Putin when he is in violation of several treaties and international law already? It's why they never bothered treating with Hitler, what would be the point? He has already proven on several occasions that he can't be trusted to keep any agreement. So, Ukraine drives the Russians from their land back to the 1991 borders and shells the fuckers inside Russia on the way out. The next move should be the destruction of Russian rail bridges well inside Russia to keep them inside their own country and then build a modern airforce and multilayered air defense system to keep them out. Since no treaty can be signed with Putin, who is a war criminal anyway, the war will continue in other places, most likely Belarus and by clandestine means inside Russia. The Ukrainians want their stolen children back and the Russians won't have peace until they are all accounted for at least.

No deals with Putin to end the war because no deals can be made with him, he must be deposed and there has to be genuine regime change for the war to end or the sanctions to come off. It's like getting into a relationship with a woman, sometimes it is easier to get into one than to end one! Some wars are like that too and supporting Ukraine won't cost the west much once the Russians are gone from Ukraine and their military power is broken along with their economy. It looks like the Ukrainian airforce will be surplus F16s as we transition to the next generation of fighters, and they will standardize their army equipment at some future point. If they can get Russian money as reparations, restore their agricultural exports and develop their oil and gas, they should do ok economically. Europe will need petroleum and NG for industrial, petrochemical and power generation purposes at least, Ukraine has it and it is right next door.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Like a fighter they need some kind of radar like system to find targets beyond visual range and superimpose the info onto the pilots googles or the OSD of the FPV drone. Perhaps they could use the transmissions of the enemy drone to track it, but if they could an FPV "fighter drone" might be useful for dealing with such enemy surveillance drones. That's how things evolved in WW1 reconnaissance planes were attacking each other until fighters were developed to deal with reconnaissance planes and defend them.


Amazing FPV Drone Strike on a Russian Drone (DJI Matrice 30) -- Incredible Accuracy
 

DIY-HP-LED

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How Ukrainian mastermind is humiliating Russia's army (for a TINY salary) | Ukraine Russia update

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How Russian soldiers are being humiliated by Ukrainian hero earning $17,000 | Russia Ukraine update. It was a moment that people had been waiting months to see: Russians fleeing from their trenches around Bakhmut as Ukrainian troops charged forward. Ukrainian soldiers drove the Russian back more than a mile on Russia’s Victory Day, dealing a ‘powerful blow’ to their attempts to take the city. Among the first to cheer their success was Ukraine's Colonel General Syrski, the Ukrainian commander who, his advocates says, could eventually earn a spot among the greatest generals in history. Whether the advances turn out to be part of Kyiv’s long-awaited counter-attack remains to be seen. But, as the commander of Ukraine’s ground forces, General Syrski has already masterminded two of Ukraine’s most improbable victories: The counter-attack out of Kharkiv and the defence of Kyiv. Now the general who earns $17,000 a year and drives a 2017 Renault Megane, has been overseeing the defences on Ukraine’s eastern frontline, including the bloody Battle of Bakhmut.

This is the story of one of Kyiv’s best commanders, who has brought death and defeat to Russian forces up and down the length of Ukraine.
 
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