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ViRedd

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GENIUS, THY NAME IS OBAMA
by Ann Coulter
November 19, 2008

With Time magazine comparing Obama to Jesus, I guess we should be relieved that, this week, liberals are only comparing him to Abraham Lincoln.

The one thing every liberal on TV seems to know about Lincoln is that he put rivals in his cabinet, as subtly indicated in the title to historian and plagiarist Doris Kearns Goodwin's book: "Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln." Like Lincoln, Goodwin is always open to contributions from her rivals, although Lincoln was better at crediting their words.

And hasn't Obama talked to former rival Hillary about becoming his secretary of state? Hasn't he had a sit-down with Sen. John McCain? Did I imagine this, or is he even now brokering peace talks between Joy Behar and Elisabeth Hasselbeck?

Ergo: Obama is a genius.

Indeed, historians have just named Obama the best president-elect ever.

I don't recall the media swooning when President George W. Bush reached out to rivals, such as Sen. Teddy Kennedy, who was asked to co-write Bush's education bill. In fact, the way I remember it, Bush is liberals' most hated president ever (only because they can't remember George Washington or they'd hate him, too).

And yet no modern president has ever done more to bridge partisan divides and show respect to his opponents than George W. Bush. I do not say this with admiration; it is simply a fact.

Throughout the year and again in his convention speech during the 2000 presidential campaign, Gov. Bush bragged that he had "no stake in the bitter arguments of the last few years. I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."

(As a side note: Bush would never have been elected president if not for the "bitter arguments of the last few years," in which Republicans exposed and impeached Bill Clinton, which then killed Al Gore's presidential ambitions. So you're welcome.)

But the point is: Bush was massively chummy with his enemies -- Democrats, communists and the Congressional Black Caucus. So chummy that even they began to wonder if he was a little daft.

In his first few weeks in office, Bush met with more than 150 members of Congress, half of them Democrats -- including five events with America's leading liberal menace, Sen. Teddy Kennedy.

Bush's very first social event at the White House was movie night with the Kennedy family to watch "Thirteen Days," a falsely heroic portrayal of JFK's disastrous handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis. This suggests to me that Obama's first social move as president will have to be to invite Lindsey Graham over to a screening of "Larry the Cable Guy Saves Christmas."

Naturally, Bush also had primary rival John McCain and his wife, Cindy, over to dinner at the White House.

Bush was the first president in memory to attend the congressional retreats of the opposing party. After two weeks in office, a Wall Street Journal column noted that Bush's charm offensive was "disorienting the local Hatfields and McCoys." (Again: You're welcome.)

Bush even made a special point to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus upon taking office, which -- given their feelings toward Bush -- would be the equivalent of Obama holding a special meet-and-greet session with the upper management of the Ku Klux Klan.

Bush invited the Democratic black mayor of the District of Columbia to the White House, attended a majority black District church service and appointed the first black secretary of state.

And that was all before Feb. 1, 2001. (By the end of his presidency, he would have appointed the first two black secretaries of state.)

Though it was small potatoes after all that palling around with Teddy Kennedy, this is the same George W. Bush who had Muslim "spiritual leaders" to the White House a week after 9/11.

Bush also famously said of then-Russian president, former KGB agent Vladimir Putin, that he looked him in the eye and "was able to get a sense of his soul."

(This made Bush's critics almost as apoplectic as if he had said, "I looked into Putin's eyes and, frankly, I just don't trust the guy." No matter what Bush did, liberals were incensed.)

As president, Bush scuttled the playing of "Hail to the Chief" in his honor and repeatedly reminded his staff to act humbly.

This is as opposed to Obama, who I believe is the first president-elect in history to have his own "Office of the President-elect" seal commissioned.

Like I always say, even if you don't like the current president-elect, you should still have some respect for the office of the presidency-elect.

 

stalebiscuit

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dude......if you want to show off the conservative side.....dont quote anne coulter

granted, she says some things that are very agreeable, but shes just to bellicose for my taste

but i will say its an ok article
 

ElBarto

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She and Limbaugh and Hannity and all the rest of them must be thanking thier lucky stars Obama won.
 

Doctor Pot

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You don't have to be a liberal to know Ann Coulter is full of shit. :roll:

For the record, Bush's biggest problem wasn't excessive partisanship, it was incompetence. Plus, all those examples of "reaching out to Democrats" that Ann Coulter mentions are entirely superficial.
 

VTXDave

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I find it interesting that people would want to compare Obama to Lincoln. I suppose if Obama eventually gets around to suspending Habeas Corpus for US citizens without congressional approval then the analogy would hold some weight.
 

Doctor Pot

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I find it interesting that people would want to compare Obama to Lincoln. I suppose if Obama eventually gets around to suspending Habeas Corpus for US citizens without congressional approval then the analogy would hold some weight.
Well, they were both Illinois congressmen without a whole lot of experience when they were elected. They both took office right after two of our worst presidents. They were both really good public speakers. And they both received practically all of the black vote. I'd venture to say Obama is more like Lincoln than he is like any other president, at least so far.
 

ViRedd

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Hey, maybe Obama will start another civil war ... only this time it will be between the socialists and the conservatives. Kinda like this forum. :lol:

And don't you libbies say I didn't warn you about this thread. :mrgreen:

Vi
 

tinyTURTLE

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I find it interesting that people would want to compare Obama to Lincoln. I suppose if Obama eventually gets around to suspending Habeas Corpus for US citizens without congressional approval then the analogy would hold some weight.
he doesnt have to. Bush already did it with the patriot act (WITH congresional approval)
 

stalebiscuit

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Well, they were both Illinois congressmen without a whole lot of experience when they were elected. They both took office right after two of our worst presidents. They were both really good public speakers. And they both received practically all of the black vote. I'd venture to say Obama is more like Lincoln than he is like any other president, at least so far.
i didnt know negros could vote when lincoln was elected
 

ViRedd

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Maybe Obama will emancipate the economically enslaved from IRS thuggery. Well, we can hope, right?

Vi
 

bradlyallen2

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The extent to which this post is a wishful retrospective account of the actions of Bush is phenomonal. Vi you appear to be wistfully recounting old times here? And this "Throughout the year and again in his convention speech during the 2000 presidential campaign, Gov. Bush bragged that he had "no stake in the bitter arguments of the last few years. I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect." The gulf that exists between this description and the 8 years that followed is stunning. George Bush was quick to veil himself in secrecy and blame dems for being partisan everytime his actions were questioned. This became manifest with the patriotism litmus test preceeding the Iraq invasion. Remember? You were not a patriot if you questioned his judgement and rationale for war, he is the "decider" after all. And then the secrecy of his administration, hindsight now shows it was his only defense against ongoing public scrutiny of his presidential ineptitude. Lets not confuse Bush's early rhetoric as fact because nothing could be further from the truth.
 

joepro

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Well, they were both Illinois congressmen without a whole lot of experience when they were elected. They both took office right after two of our worst presidents. They were both really good public speakers. And they both received practically all of the black vote. I'd venture to say Obama is more like Lincoln than he is like any other president, at least so far.
Lincoln interweaved chess and politics like no other past or present.
To think Obama could be placed at Lincolns table, is only setting Obama up for failure.
Both IL congressmen, that's where comparison starts and stops.
I've been hearing Obama/FDR references.:o
(Will see if Obamas first 100 days are anything like FDRs.)
Camelot white house/JFK references.:shock:
It's laughable at this point with all the false references.




This statement shows the insight of a master political chess player.
;My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.........
 

Doctor Pot

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As far as what type of person is, Obama isn't much like FDR. The similarity comes from the fact that they both took office during an economic crisis, and may have to implement similar plans. Obama is more like JFK, in that both are inspirational and charismatic, both represented a break with the past, and both represented 'the first X president', ie, Kennedy was Catholic and Obama black. People compared Kennedy and Lincoln too, at the time. But Kennedy came from a wealth background with his family heavily involved in politics. Obama and Lincoln were both fairly poor growing up, and both were lawyers who later got into politics.

Of course, we won't really be able to compare them until after Obama's been president for a while.
 
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