Was my powder nutes causing lockout this whole time?

NICK72690

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Ok so for a few years been running the same 3 strains, all in Ffof under mars hydro led, great results except right at the 2 week mark in flower I always see problems, been puzzling me for years, however I give my plants only water until flower when I introduce maxibloom powder, hardly ever use maxi grow in veg maybe top dress with ewc or lobster compost from coast of Maine, now I had always thought it was the stretching into the led and being somewhat close, but I’m doing a run in my scorpion Diablo and it’s a tad worse, my bud is always very good but I really want to figure out this mid flower nutrient problem, I just tested my runoff ph and it’s mid 6,s give or take nothing to be too alarmed about however I never really give my powder nutes time to mix I just add it shake it ph it and pour, could this be causing the nuts problem the whole time? I’m over here looking for pests and everything for multiple grows now, my ppm meter should be here any day and I will test my tap my runoff and what I usually mix for nutes, I only have a little over 2 weeks left on my current flowering tent so only plain water but could this be my problem? I should also add I have a bad habit of letting them sit in a little runoff
 

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hotrodharley

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Ok so for a few years been running the same 3 strains, all in Ffof under mars hydro led, great results except right at the 2 week mark in flower I always see problems, been puzzling me for years, however I give my plants only water until flower when I introduce maxibloom powder, hardly ever use maxi grow in veg maybe top dress with ewc or lobster compost from coast of Maine, now I had always thought it was the stretching into the led and being somewhat close, but I’m doing a run in my scorpion Diablo and it’s a tad worse, my bud is always very good but I really want to figure out this mid flower nutrient problem, I just tested my runoff ph and it’s mid 6,s give or take nothing to be too alarmed about however I never really give my powder nutes time to mix I just add it shake it ph it and pour, could this be causing the nuts problem the whole time? I’m over here looking for pests and everything for multiple grows now, my ppm meter should be here any day and I will test my tap my runoff and what I usually mix for nutes, I only have a little over 2 weeks left on my current flowering tent so only plain water but could this be my problem? I should also add I have a bad habit of letting them sit in a little runoff
They’re hungry. What dry nutes are you using? If just Maxibloom how much are you using? Just mix it with hot water and stir well.
 

PJ Diaz

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With the issue presenting in a certain area, it could be VPD or light intensity related.
It appears strain specific to me. Some plants are super dark which leads me to believe that it's an over nute issue, likely related to poor runoff management, and the yellow plant is getting locked out.
 

stnr420

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Ok so for a few years been running the same 3 strains, all in Ffof under mars hydro led, great results except right at the 2 week mark in flower I always see problems, been puzzling me for years, however I give my plants only water until flower when I introduce maxibloom powder, hardly ever use maxi grow in veg maybe top dress with ewc or lobster compost from coast of Maine, now I had always thought it was the stretching into the led and being somewhat close, but I’m doing a run in my scorpion Diablo and it’s a tad worse, my bud is always very good but I really want to figure out this mid flower nutrient problem, I just tested my runoff ph and it’s mid 6,s give or take nothing to be too alarmed about however I never really give my powder nutes time to mix I just add it shake it ph it and pour, could this be causing the nuts problem the whole time? I’m over here looking for pests and everything for multiple grows now, my ppm meter should be here any day and I will test my tap my runoff and what I usually mix for nutes, I only have a little over 2 weeks left on my current flowering tent so only plain water but could this be my problem? I should also add I have a bad habit of letting them sit in a little runoff
Yes....and honestly...if you are running synthetics i would use coco or promix....if i was in soil...organic only for me....i see threads all the time with foxfarm and synthetics causing problems....make sure each powder is fully dissolved before adding....this will prob solve 90 per"nt of your problem
 

7CardBud

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Yes....and honestly...if you are running synthetics i would use coco or promix....if i was in soil...organic only for me....i see threads all the time with foxfarm and synthetics causing problems....make sure each powder is fully dissolved before adding....this will prob solve 90 per"nt of your problem
Yes, it does seem like a high percentage of problems that pop up here are people in soil using salts. I agree, if you will be feeding synthetics you might as well do the whole run in a soilless mix from the start. You'll have a much better idea "where your at" if a problem arises. In soil it could be numerous things. In a soilless mix, do a flush with 1/4 strength feed, check EC and pH, then make the needed adjustments.
 

ilovetoskiatalta

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Ok so for a few years been running the same 3 strains, all in Ffof under mars hydro led, great results except right at the 2 week mark in flower I always see problems, been puzzling me for years, however I give my plants only water until flower when I introduce maxibloom powder, hardly ever use maxi grow in veg maybe top dress with ewc or lobster compost from coast of Maine, now I had always thought it was the stretching into the led and being somewhat close, but I’m doing a run in my scorpion Diablo and it’s a tad worse, my bud is always very good but I really want to figure out this mid flower nutrient problem, I just tested my runoff ph and it’s mid 6,s give or take nothing to be too alarmed about however I never really give my powder nutes time to mix I just add it shake it ph it and pour, could this be causing the nuts problem the whole time? I’m over here looking for pests and everything for multiple grows now, my ppm meter should be here any day and I will test my tap my runoff and what I usually mix for nutes, I only have a little over 2 weeks left on my current flowering tent so only plain water but could this be my problem? I should also add I have a bad habit of letting them sit in a little runoff
Hey I am not being disrespectful, is it possible the medium is staying too wet? Don't fear the dry back lol.
 

waterproof808

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Yes, it does seem like a high percentage of problems that pop up here are people in soil using salts. I agree, if you will be feeding synthetics you might as well do the whole run in a soilless mix from the start. You'll have a much better idea "where your at" if a problem arises. In soil it could be numerous things. In a soilless mix, do a flush with 1/4 strength feed, check EC and pH, then make the needed adjustments.
Type of medium and nutrients usually aren’t the problem. More often it’s people doing weird things like doing water only the entire veg period, poor watering practices, bottom feeding, letting pots sit in runoff, etc.
 
Ok so for a few years been running the same 3 strains, all in Ffof under mars hydro led, great results except right at the 2 week mark in flower I always see problems, been puzzling me for years, however I give my plants only water until flower when I introduce maxibloom powder, hardly ever use maxi grow in veg maybe top dress with ewc or lobster compost from coast of Maine, now I had always thought it was the stretching into the led and being somewhat close, but I’m doing a run in my scorpion Diablo and it’s a tad worse, my bud is always very good but I really want to figure out this mid flower nutrient problem, I just tested my runoff ph and it’s mid 6,s give or take nothing to be too alarmed about however I never really give my powder nutes time to mix I just add it shake it ph it and pour, could this be causing the nuts problem the whole time? I’m over here looking for pests and everything for multiple grows now, my ppm meter should be here any day and I will test my tap my runoff and what I usually mix for nutes, I only have a little over 2 weeks left on my current flowering tent so only plain water but could this be my problem? I should also add I have a bad habit of letting them sit in a little runoff
Cannabis has a tremendous nutrient requirement during the stretch in the first 3 weeks of flower. Nitrogen is still needed in abundance for rapid growth during this time. I'm guessing since you feed water only up till the flip your ladies have used up a lot of the N.

I would suggest supplementing with veg nutrients for the a week before the flip and for a week after. Then switch over to flower nutrients. A lot of the new research suggests cannabis likes more Nitrogen in flower than previously thought. I uses Jack's RO 12-4-16 throughout the grow with the exception of two weeks of 10-30-20 at the flip and 7-15-30 at the end.
 

hotrodharley

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Cannabis has a tremendous nutrient requirement during the stretch in the first 3 weeks of flower. Nitrogen is still needed in abundance for rapid growth during this time. I'm guessing since you feed water only up till the flip your ladies have used up a lot of the N.

I would suggest supplementing with veg nutrients for the a week before the flip and for a week after. Then switch over to flower nutrients. A lot of the new research suggests cannabis likes more Nitrogen in flower than previously thought. I uses Jack's RO 12-4-16 throughout the grow with the exception of two weeks of 10-30-20 at the flip and 7-15-30 at the end.
My first feeding after flip is a full veg feed including cal mag. They need it for the stretch.
 

BeastGrow

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Ok so for a few years been running the same 3 strains, all in Ffof under mars hydro led, great results except right at the 2 week mark in flower I always see problems, been puzzling me for years, however I give my plants only water until flower when I introduce maxibloom powder, hardly ever use maxi grow in veg maybe top dress with ewc or lobster compost from coast of Maine, now I had always thought it was the stretching into the led and being somewhat close, but I’m doing a run in my scorpion Diablo and it’s a tad worse, my bud is always very good but I really want to figure out this mid flower nutrient problem, I just tested my runoff ph and it’s mid 6,s give or take nothing to be too alarmed about however I never really give my powder nutes time to mix I just add it shake it ph it and pour, could this be causing the nuts problem the whole time? I’m over here looking for pests and everything for multiple grows now, my ppm meter should be here any day and I will test my tap my runoff and what I usually mix for nutes, I only have a little over 2 weeks left on my current flowering tent so only plain water but could this be my problem? I should also add I have a bad habit of letting them sit in a little runoff
looks like plain over watering to me, which will cause deficiencies.
 
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