Waterfarm Closet Grow [PICS]

Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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NeoAnarchist said:
wow...um...i really like ur setup man, thats like...a freakin DREAM op of mine. but is that ur flowering room? u got some blues and reds in there lol (mh an hps) what kinda fan are you using?
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thanks i appreciate the love. its my GROW room haha. its a closet in a spare room here. i am strict CFL grower, as I'm growing for personal use, and don't care much about bag appeal or anything like that, I'm going for the most cost effective grow. take what i can get from the harvest. don't want to deal with the electric bills that come along with running/cooling a MH or HPS. as far as fan goes... just the one i have attached in the photo, its actually a window mount fan, that happens to fit snugly across the closet haha. i run it 24/7. pretty sweet, actually has a switch on each fan independent exhaust/intake controls. but for this application is it blowing air directly at the plants and indirectly by pulling it away. it sits directly across from the waterfarm in the closet.
 

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NeoAnarchist

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heck ya, i actually need to get me a fan like that for my flower room, i turned my closet into a flower room, just gonna run one 400w HPS, i just have some cfls and some flouros in the cab, its pretty badass if i say so myself haha
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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BBBUUUMMMPP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shackleford.R said:
quick note... i crunched a few numbers... if my calculations are correct, between the new CFL reflector and my plans for the 8 aux lamps, i can expect... are you ready for this??

22,125 LUMENS in the 2700-3500K light spectrum!!! given the dimensions of my grow area i think i have an awesome harvest ahead.
also, do you think these kids are ready for a more aggressive nute recipe? also anyone use any of the following General Hydroponics products..

-Liquid KoolBloom
-FloraNectar
-FloraBlend
-Floarlicious

...if so, what do they do? do they do it well? worth it for my grow setup??
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anybody got anything for me... about the lights... good lumens? the nutes? eh? eh? yeah?
 
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blueberry1

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oh yeah, great choice on the bubbly metallic hood....that is the same texture mine has and its supposed to be the BEST :)
 
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blueberry1

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Shackleford.R said:
quick note... i crunched a few numbers... if my calculations are correct, between the new CFL reflector and my plans for the 8 aux lamps, i can expect... are you ready for this??

22,125 LUMENS in the 2700-3500K light spectrum!!! given the dimensions of my grow area i think i have an awesome harvest ahead.
also, do you think these kids are ready for a more aggressive nute recipe? also anyone use any of the following General Hydroponics products..

-Liquid KoolBloom
-FloraNectar
-FloraBlend
-Floarlicious

...if so, what do they do? do they do it well? worth it for my grow setup??
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i've heard the General Hydoponics are a great brand of nutes. I use their cal-mag...not really sure how it works because i've had a couple different brown spotting of my leaves and still do. I use the NSR Greenleaves Grow, Bloom & Boost Juice... which are highly recommended for newbies and I know a few people who use them. I can't say if I am satisfied because I have yet to harvest, right ;) My stuff is bout $32-42/gallon

So far, so good:peace:
 
growman3666

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Shackleford.R said:
Alright man.. haha i appreciate everything you're showing me and all. But this is direction I'm going with, this is just a small personal use grow, so I'm not really concerned with a perpetual setup.

Moving right along as promised here are the photos.. They are a bit out of order.
:hump::hump::hump:

(just saw they posted out of order... you can figure it out i'm sure)

PIC 1 That's right folks!!! 125 ACTUAL CFL wattage!

PIC 2 Check it out!! Lower branching is revving up. Also why are my stems shedding? Assume its good, just means its getting bigger and stronger

PIC 3 There she is! My flowering bulb in its housing. 2700K, don't plan on flipping it on until flowering, I will also have some auxiliary bulbs surrounding the lower branches

PIC 4 The straggler, still waiting to be topped. Those sexy leaves in the middle will top out the 5th node

PIC 5 This is my only concern, the small yellowing on the top edge.. early signs of N deficiency??

PIC 6 Just another view of the hood. I guess its actually called a "wing" i've heard it is AWESOME though

PIC 7 Red circles are topped, blue is waiting to be topped...

That's all for now, off to the flea market to get some fake ID's haha maybe...
Leave your thoughts, and input on PIC 5


:peace: and keep :joint:
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fucken looking righteous man
good job ;)
 
GypsyBush

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You're doing good man...

The light will help out tremendoulsy...

As for nutes, I have used the Greenleaves line up, it works great!

Here are the first buds I grew with that line of nutes...





 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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those are some beautiful frosty little nugs. i'm already invested in GH Flora and FloraNova, i picked up the floralicious nutrient additive today. check out the bottom of page 1 for a rundown of my nutrient library.
 
NeoAnarchist

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dude, that flora nova is AWESOME, it works out great, a buddy of mine had some he used in his grow, its a little pricey but its worth it, i do the 3 part GH tho, so grow, micro , and bloom, i also go the flouralicious and the MagiCal. everything is just fine!
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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So the kids have reached new heights of shrubbiness in just 36 hours! The last overhead view you saw posted here, is now dwarfed by the gardens current incantation. :hump:



There is the garden currently. I circled a few of my concerns and numbered them.. in case quality is low, a brief explanation of what I saw, so you know what you're looking for...

1 A soft yellowing around the edges of the leaf
2 Yellowing tips of the leaf (see earlier pics post, seems to have progressed)
3 Burning of the leaf edges, similar to the photos on Post #1 of this thread
4 Tiny, tiny holes in the leaf, looks like I may have an inset problem? Although I haven't spotted any little pesties on the plant or in the grow closet (in the house is a different story.. :shock:)

The non bad news about all this is that I'm nearing the end of my veg, They have had a solid 4 weeks of veg, and I'm actually surprised how much growth has occurred in those 4 short weeks. I intend now, regardless of sexual maturity, to adjust to a 12/12 lighting schedule by the end of week 6. The angry teenagers are already getting about as bushy as I had planned for them to be, but I don't want to push/stress them before bloom. I'll just let them be angry teenagers for another week or two.

Most feeding schedules I have seen for any nutrient, details a "transition" phase. If I were to force 12/12 on the kids do I start transitional phase nutes on the first day of 12/12 or the day before or the day after?

When do YOU start your transitional phase, I guess is the better question?
 

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blueberry1

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Crap Gypsy those are some tine plants and fatty nugs. how old were they when u started flowering!?!?!
check out my grow i am flowering starting today :)
~blue
 
GypsyBush

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Shack... People do all kinds of transitions...

I don't...

When I switch, I just go to 12/12 and switch my nutes...

The plant will take a few days to adjust, but it will...

The 12/12 light schedule is the trigger... the bloom nutes will help it stop growing and make flowers...

Your plants are going to double in size during flowering..

Growth will only intensify if you keep it in veg...

Not telling you what to do here, but just making sure you are not going to run out of room because they vegged too long...

Just my 2 cents...

And BlueBerry, they were 3" clones put into flower the day I saw roots...
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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GypsyBush said:
Shack... People do all kinds of transitions...

I don't...

When I switch, I just go to 12/12 and switch my nutes...

The plant will take a few days to adjust, but it will...

The 12/12 light schedule is the trigger... the bloom nutes will help it stop growing and make flowers...

Your plants are going to double in size during flowering..

Growth will only intensify if you keep it in veg...

Not telling you what to do here, but just making sure you are not going to run out of room because they vegged too long...

Just my 2 cents...

And BlueBerry, they were 3" clones put into flower the day I saw roots...
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I dont give you enough cred gypsy.. seems every question i would like answered, you offer timely advice. i did some pruning, completely took off two large leaves that covered the canopy, and snipped a few leaf tips in half here and there to open things up a little bit. i figure they are going to be stressed for a bit. so i'll give them the weekend to recover, and take a drink of a fresh batch of veg nutes i mixed up today. then come monday i guess its transition nutes and first day of 12/12

+rep gypsy. thanks!!
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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Be careful of pruning leaves...

We think of feeding the plants with nutes...

But in reality, the LEAVES ARE THE FOOD FACTORY..

The leaves process the nutes with the energy from the light...

Cut off the leaf, cut off one food factory...

You will notice that later on, pretty much every budsite will have a fan leaf "attatched" to it...

Remove that fan leaf and you will hurt that bud along with the plant's over all ability to convert light and nutes into the food it needs...

Lst is good because it allows you to spread you canopy, instead of trimming, to get rid of shading...

Move the leafs under others, tie the to the branch... do whatever, but I do not recommend taking leaves off...

Unless you have a very specific plan, which usually includes cleaning the bottom the bottom, never the top...

Your buds will need the fan leaves.. trust me...lol..

Oh and thanks for the rep!
Did you see my latest update?


Cheers...




https://www.rollitup.org/2472369-post746.html
 
dopewear

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hey shackle all looks well how tall are they now? flowering come monday sounds good remember the can grow 2-3x their size in flowering, but hey the bigger the better.
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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dopewear said:
hey shackle all looks well how tall are they now? flowering come monday sounds good remember the can grow 2-3x their size in flowering, but hey the bigger the better.
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they are beastly haha. well not truly, they are wide as they are tall, and around 7-9" roughly.

over the weekend i'm going to keep an eye on whats making the most shade and do some tie down (LST) work. I trimmed today, and may have OVERtrimmed one plant, took TWO of her largest fan leaves. I'm kicking myself in the ass for that one, but oh well, the girl is still really bushy so we'll see.

i think so long as i don't snip or trim back anymore leaves i should be alright.
 
GypsyBush

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Oh... they'll be fine...

You would be surprised the kind of abuse they will take...

But the idea is to minimize the fuck ups in order to maximize the yield...

Cheers...
 
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