We do grow in HS
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rory420420
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the veggin ones,and next round of clones,the tall plant in the back is a sleeskunk..i have high hopes for..
rory420420
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it may have duck,id have to look at the bucket..well,it was first of jan in flower and middle of april..maybe 120?...
Timeissmoney1
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Boy sorry for saying something... Ill watch my play on words better next time
Bublonichronic
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Only day 17 in flower so not much to see but seem to be frosting up nice this run
rory420420
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whats the flavor?..i want a strain that puts out dishes fulla bho..lol
Bublonichronic
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There a couple strains in there, power Africa is prolly the stinkiest and puts out most resin, I can't get enough of that strain
Mad Hamish
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Yeah African land races are fabulous for BHO too. Insane yields and excellent terpene profile in the shatter. Anyhow, my pic of the week:
Salvador x Mendo Montage
Salvador x Mendo Montage
Mad Hamish
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I am not too mad about the BHO myself, to be quite honest I smoke too much to smoke something THAT strong. I am bit of a freak for good old bubble hash though.
I tried Breedbay member Flacaent's method exactly, and the results blew my mind:
As for the extraction process we have gone about it pretty much the same way. Our system is as follows
We have 2 20 gal trash cans
In the work can is the 160u, the 200u, ice starting material and water. We layer our starting product and homemade Ro ice until all of our product is in the can and fully covered in ice. Then we add enough Ro water to fully cover the materials in the werk can. As for agitation we have yet to do what would be considered a “gently” stir but will do one soon and get back to you. We usually left the water ice and starting product sit for 20 min before our first mix. once this 20min is passed we mix w an oar in a front to back manner for ~10/15 min and let sit another 20 min before mixing again. We repeat this once more for a total of there mixtures over about an 1 and 20 min period give or take a few. Once our given time period has elapsed we move to our 2nd set of trash cans.
In the 2nd can from bottom to top is the 25u, 38u, 70u, 120u bags. The werk bag from can one is removed and the 160u is strained and collected. We then take the water with all of our goodies in it and pour the contents into can 2. The water filter through the bags and into a collection bucket which w save for the second wash. from here the extraction is much the same as always- werk the water out the bags and collect. We use a foliar spray filled w ro ice and water to help collect our trichomes and then place each bags slab of gold onto a sheet of parchment paper. Once all the bags have been collected and each slab is on its parchment paper its immediately to the freezer!!
After this is done we prepare for our second wash. I should note- after we finish w each bag they are cleaned and pre-prepped for the second wash for a smooth transition once the collection from the first run is done. With the clean bags we setup our system, add our saved water from the first one back to our werk can long w the werk bag and material from the first run. At this point we add more ice, and more BUD!. usually bout a half p worth. Once its all in the water we let it sit and repeat our mixing cycle once more for a second wash and collect our trichomes the same way as the first. Once all bags are collected to the freezer it goes.
I can definitely see there being some truth to re running trichs through an ice bath but i have no experience in doing so but it would be a great side by side exp. I don’t see why taking a pretty pure product and running it through another water extraction wouldn't further purify it.
So we have these fat golden globs of joy and what do we do w them? Well we toss them blobs in the freezer and wait for them to freeze over completely. I would consider this the start of our drying process—from collection to freezer immediately. Once the blobs are completely frozen your going to want to break out your awesome new kitchen gadget called a MicroPlane. Before this year i’ve never heard of it but it is essentially a zester for the pith/ skin of fruits or a super refined cheese grader. Whatever you consider it, is absolutely perfect for grading your hash into the smallest grains for drying. This is where I believe makes the difference— the amount of time between collection and micro planning. There is a debate on whether it is better to micro plane immediately after your hash slab has frozen or too wait a full 24 hours before microplanning. We have tried both ways and it seems to me that immediately after collection produces the best consistency/ most full melt hash that we are looking for. I cannot say this is completely conclusive though as i would like to compare a few more documented runs to form a true conclusion which will be done this month.
Once you decide when you want to microplane the next step it to jus get it done. Take a nice sized sheet of parchment paper and grade your blocks onto it. you want to spread it as evenly across the parchment as possible to allow for the quickest drying. We let ours sit for at least ~12 hours before storing for cure. ~12 weeks best for our environment, a simple way to test if your hash is dry is to flame it and listen for a sizzle. The sizzle will occur when moisture is trapped in the hash much like burning wet wood. Listen for it if its there let it dry a little longer. if the hash catches flame or melts w no sound she's dry to be cured. You can pretty much tell after looking at it whether its dry or not by the change in color. This microplanning step is also i believe a great way to prevent the oxidation of your bubble hash. Once it is dried we scrap it up, weight it, and store it in glass containers for x amount of time. unfortunately we have not been able to do extensive cure research w full melt but it is something we are werking on.
While drying our environment is usually ~60-70F and RH <40%. When curing the glass jars are stored in a dark cool closet next to flowers. never burped, jus left to sit until used. We consider usable product as 70u, and below. Many people do not understand the difference in bag size and the importance of running different sizes to find whats perfect for your strains. The 70u and 90u are the bags which collect mature trich heads from most strains along w a few contaminates(plant matter) . 40u and below usually contains immature trich heads,broken heads, trich stalks, but less contaminants than the 70u or 90u bags.
As for the translucent amber color i would consider it to be strain, micron size, and microplane time dependent. Micorplanning immediately seems to produce a somewhat lighter color hash at each bag size, while waiting the 24 has almost always produced an amber/brown color fullmelt.
To me the secrets of success lie in the details. Collecting trichomes w the coolest and cleanest water you can in a foliar sprayer is definitely something I would recommend. Performing runs in the coldest environment possible is also highly beneficial. When micro planning at this time i would recommend to do it as soon as the slabs are completely frozen. I would break big slabs up into manageable pieces as you will see how fast the slab melts once grading. Aside from these things the only thing i can say to best sure of it so have the cleanest technique and equipment possible and too use to best quality you can. You reap what you sew and you really leaner that lesson w running bubble. A side note- we usually run 2 lbs at a time and toss a half p in before the 2nd wash. We only do 2 washes because we have done a third before and the excess yield was not worth the extra effort—but it may be for you!
I tried Breedbay member Flacaent's method exactly, and the results blew my mind:
As for the extraction process we have gone about it pretty much the same way. Our system is as follows
We have 2 20 gal trash cans
In the work can is the 160u, the 200u, ice starting material and water. We layer our starting product and homemade Ro ice until all of our product is in the can and fully covered in ice. Then we add enough Ro water to fully cover the materials in the werk can. As for agitation we have yet to do what would be considered a “gently” stir but will do one soon and get back to you. We usually left the water ice and starting product sit for 20 min before our first mix. once this 20min is passed we mix w an oar in a front to back manner for ~10/15 min and let sit another 20 min before mixing again. We repeat this once more for a total of there mixtures over about an 1 and 20 min period give or take a few. Once our given time period has elapsed we move to our 2nd set of trash cans.
In the 2nd can from bottom to top is the 25u, 38u, 70u, 120u bags. The werk bag from can one is removed and the 160u is strained and collected. We then take the water with all of our goodies in it and pour the contents into can 2. The water filter through the bags and into a collection bucket which w save for the second wash. from here the extraction is much the same as always- werk the water out the bags and collect. We use a foliar spray filled w ro ice and water to help collect our trichomes and then place each bags slab of gold onto a sheet of parchment paper. Once all the bags have been collected and each slab is on its parchment paper its immediately to the freezer!!
After this is done we prepare for our second wash. I should note- after we finish w each bag they are cleaned and pre-prepped for the second wash for a smooth transition once the collection from the first run is done. With the clean bags we setup our system, add our saved water from the first one back to our werk can long w the werk bag and material from the first run. At this point we add more ice, and more BUD!. usually bout a half p worth. Once its all in the water we let it sit and repeat our mixing cycle once more for a second wash and collect our trichomes the same way as the first. Once all bags are collected to the freezer it goes.
I can definitely see there being some truth to re running trichs through an ice bath but i have no experience in doing so but it would be a great side by side exp. I don’t see why taking a pretty pure product and running it through another water extraction wouldn't further purify it.
So we have these fat golden globs of joy and what do we do w them? Well we toss them blobs in the freezer and wait for them to freeze over completely. I would consider this the start of our drying process—from collection to freezer immediately. Once the blobs are completely frozen your going to want to break out your awesome new kitchen gadget called a MicroPlane. Before this year i’ve never heard of it but it is essentially a zester for the pith/ skin of fruits or a super refined cheese grader. Whatever you consider it, is absolutely perfect for grading your hash into the smallest grains for drying. This is where I believe makes the difference— the amount of time between collection and micro planning. There is a debate on whether it is better to micro plane immediately after your hash slab has frozen or too wait a full 24 hours before microplanning. We have tried both ways and it seems to me that immediately after collection produces the best consistency/ most full melt hash that we are looking for. I cannot say this is completely conclusive though as i would like to compare a few more documented runs to form a true conclusion which will be done this month.
Once you decide when you want to microplane the next step it to jus get it done. Take a nice sized sheet of parchment paper and grade your blocks onto it. you want to spread it as evenly across the parchment as possible to allow for the quickest drying. We let ours sit for at least ~12 hours before storing for cure. ~12 weeks best for our environment, a simple way to test if your hash is dry is to flame it and listen for a sizzle. The sizzle will occur when moisture is trapped in the hash much like burning wet wood. Listen for it if its there let it dry a little longer. if the hash catches flame or melts w no sound she's dry to be cured. You can pretty much tell after looking at it whether its dry or not by the change in color. This microplanning step is also i believe a great way to prevent the oxidation of your bubble hash. Once it is dried we scrap it up, weight it, and store it in glass containers for x amount of time. unfortunately we have not been able to do extensive cure research w full melt but it is something we are werking on.
While drying our environment is usually ~60-70F and RH <40%. When curing the glass jars are stored in a dark cool closet next to flowers. never burped, jus left to sit until used. We consider usable product as 70u, and below. Many people do not understand the difference in bag size and the importance of running different sizes to find whats perfect for your strains. The 70u and 90u are the bags which collect mature trich heads from most strains along w a few contaminates(plant matter) . 40u and below usually contains immature trich heads,broken heads, trich stalks, but less contaminants than the 70u or 90u bags.
As for the translucent amber color i would consider it to be strain, micron size, and microplane time dependent. Micorplanning immediately seems to produce a somewhat lighter color hash at each bag size, while waiting the 24 has almost always produced an amber/brown color fullmelt.
To me the secrets of success lie in the details. Collecting trichomes w the coolest and cleanest water you can in a foliar sprayer is definitely something I would recommend. Performing runs in the coldest environment possible is also highly beneficial. When micro planning at this time i would recommend to do it as soon as the slabs are completely frozen. I would break big slabs up into manageable pieces as you will see how fast the slab melts once grading. Aside from these things the only thing i can say to best sure of it so have the cleanest technique and equipment possible and too use to best quality you can. You reap what you sew and you really leaner that lesson w running bubble. A side note- we usually run 2 lbs at a time and toss a half p in before the 2nd wash. We only do 2 washes because we have done a third before and the excess yield was not worth the extra effort—but it may be for you!
rory420420
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i love making bubble,and do it well!
MrEDuck
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A second run shouldn't do anything to purify. Maybe help disperse and then get any fines that didn't go through because they got stuck to larger bits but if you do your sieving well that shouldn't really be a concern. It's not an extraction but a mechanical separation and once it's done well it should be done. At least that's my hypothesis.
Timeissmoney1
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Heres where my outdoor grow stands at this point in time. Windy outside. hard to get a pic
from Top left to bottom right. Starting at top 1st
Blue dream seedling. Trainwreck seedling. Northern Lights. Bubblelicious. Ak48
from Top left to bottom right. Starting at top 1st
Blue dream seedling. Trainwreck seedling. Northern Lights. Bubblelicious. Ak48
Bublonichronic
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I got the idea bout the spray bottle to clean the bags from rize, I couldn't believe I didn't think of that, brilliant...heh, haven't made water hash in forever, need to get on that
rory420420
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made enough for a quarter about 2 weeks ago...cleaned the bags and still have a few lbs of trim left..lol,i get lazy when it comes to hash,i usually only make it for myself,but sometimes i get a nice streak..lol
Bublonichronic
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Hope it's cool to post non MJ plants in here, these my babies I'm pretty proud of
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
here's a few snaps of the so'cal bubba i got as a cut from a fine farmer friend of mine..
she was a super slow vegger, but she's coming along quite nicely after a bit of topping on my part imvho..
here she is how i got her.
and here she is as of tonight.
she was a super slow vegger, but she's coming along quite nicely after a bit of topping on my part imvho..
here she is how i got her.
and here she is as of tonight.
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racerboy71
bud bootlegger
oops, here she was as a baby.
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