What can be accomplished with a 3x3?

OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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pahpah-cee said:
I have a tendency to over do it. I respect your super mellow approach. It works and will get the job done.
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I've been at it for 20 years steady here so have accumulated way more stuff than I use/need but recall the early days growing under T-12 fluoros in a cardboard box. The little tent I have now is the first one I've owned and I much prefer my grow room downstairs but needed a bit more space for vegging in while flowering down there. I'd like to add a 4x8' tent downstairs but have a wooden support beam in the way that's 3" too low for an 80" tent which is all there is in that size. VivoSun makes one that size that is 72"h but has a hip-roof design I don't like. I need to get off my ass and clean it out down there then just frame in a room that size. I plan to run two 600W Hortilux back to back on my Light Rail to light the whole thing up and use that space just for flowering.

For me it's just a means to grow decent meds that I share with friends in need and a great hobby that there is so much to learn about and experiments to do that keep it interesting. If I were doing it as a job or for profit I probably wouldn't enjoy it at all. If yields were important I'd go back to DWC and double my output easily. High THC wonderweed doesn't impress me. I want the medical effects and have no use for any strain that doesn't address that issue and I've grown plenty of those.

I'm growing a strain that a buddy across the country sent me clones of a strain called Cherry Noir. He also sent along a 1/4oz of the bud and it is really nice and very different than any other strain I've sampled. Better be special at $550 for 5 or 10 seeds. They don't say on the website or the packs in the pics there so will have to ask him how many seeds he got for his money. He split them with a buddy. I got 4 clones from two different mothers so can make F1 or S1 fem seeds from them.

Growing with LITFA can be hard to do but works. More plants die from too much care than by neglect. LITFA - Leave It The Fuck Alone! :D

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Er3

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OldMedUser said:
If all you have is a single grow spot I'd consider growing autos. Start a fem seed every month and just keep your light on 18/6 or even 24/0 if that helps keep the temps in the tent steady.

They grow smaller and in something like 2gal pots wouldn't likely get more than 2ft tall. Once your first plant reaches harvest in 3 - 4 months you'd have another to harvest every month so a perpetual grow scenario. In Canada with the 4 plant limit it would stay legal too.

You don't need a fancy light either. I bet my little COB LED would do a fair job and they are barely over $100 on amazon and mine pulls 200w from the wall. I'm using it in a VivoSun 2x4x5'h tent for veg and clones and wish I had a 3x3 instead but it was used gear I got for cheap so it is what it is.

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My exhaust fan for it is a little USB powered desk fan stuck in the vent on the top that vents right into the room. I just crack the bedroom window if it gets too warm in there. Keeping the humidity up is a bitch if I vented outside. No carbon filter as they're just vegging but you'll want a good one for flowering plants. Exhaust fan noise can be annoying so try to get one with a speed control. Even a 4" inline fan running half speed will be enough for that size tent and would blow a lot more air than my little one. You can get or make a silencer for the fan too. Just a box stuffed with insulation around the fan quiets them a lot. My main grow room in the basement has all the bells and whistles to maintain the environment and where the plants go for flowering.

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I use the same cob as you do. I use it to flower outside my tent and it does the trick
 

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Lenin1917

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If you’re running led you might not need the extra ceiling. 6-8 plants with 2-3 weeks of veg lighting flip to 12/12 once they’re about a foot tall. Right genetics and it ain’t hard to hit 2oz+/plant even if you keep ‘em short
 
Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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I wouldn't shell out for a gorilla. They're really no better than a cheap tent, and have just as many pinholes/light leaks to fix up.

Build a base (table) from lumber/pallets that is an extra 1.5 ft high for the 3x3 to sit on instead, as high as you can without hitting the ceiling..

Or use a free 3x3 coffee table of something.

Then put a DWC\hydroponic reservoir inside the base, and cut holes in the tents floor liners for the netpots, so they are flush to it. There is your extra height, allowing you to run any light you want.

Hit a pound easy with one or 2 scrogged plants in there, and even stagger the harvest so you perpetually
pull out half to trim up every month or so.
 
DrDukePHD

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OldMedUser said:
If all you have is a single grow spot I'd consider growing autos. Start a fem seed every month and just keep your light on 18/6 or even 24/0 if that helps keep the temps in the tent steady.

They grow smaller and in something like 2gal pots wouldn't likely get more than 2ft tall. Once your first plant reaches harvest in 3 - 4 months you'd have another to harvest every month so a perpetual grow scenario. In Canada with the 4 plant limit it would stay legal too.

You don't need a fancy light either. I bet my little COB LED would do a fair job and they are barely over $100 on amazon and mine pulls 200w from the wall. I'm using it in a VivoSun 2x4x5'h tent for veg and clones and wish I had a 3x3 instead but it was used gear I got for cheap so it is what it is.

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My exhaust fan for it is a little USB powered desk fan stuck in the vent on the top that vents right into the room. I just crack the bedroom window if it gets too warm in there. Keeping the humidity up is a bitch if I vented outside. No carbon filter as they're just vegging but you'll want a good one for flowering plants. Exhaust fan noise can be annoying so try to get one with a speed control. Even a 4" inline fan running half speed will be enough for that size tent and would blow a lot more air than my little one. You can get or make a silencer for the fan too. Just a box stuffed with insulation around the fan quiets them a lot. My main grow room in the basement has all the bells and whistles to maintain the environment and where the plants go for flowering.

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Thanks, you brought my anxiety level down by making it sound so simple I just wish someone had a "full parts" list for their entire 3x3 setup that was cost effective & had all links/cost. Perhaps I'll do that when I get mine done
 
OldMedUser

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DrDukePHD said:
Thanks, you brought my anxiety level down by making it sound so simple I just wish someone had a "full parts" list for their entire 3x3 setup that was cost effective & had all links/cost. Perhaps I'll do that when I get mine done
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There's plenty of tent kits on places like Amazon that come with everything but pots, soil and seeds for cheap but like most things you get what you pay for.

Not a bad option for people who are totally new to growing any plants but after seeing all the great plants growers at places like this pull off decide to dive in. I have acquaintances in the hydro industry and when pot first became legal in Canada were selling basic grow gear by the truckload and now are shutting their doors. The smaller black market growers are shutting down all over and the market is flooded with used grow gear so it's going for pennies on the dollar. 3 years ago while out in BC to visit family I wandered into a hydro store in Chilliwack and found 24 slightly used 600w sets for sale from a closed grow-op. E-ballast, Hortilux Super HPS bulb and open bat-wing style reflector for $60 so I bought 5 sets and gave 2 to my buddy for a Xmas present. I'm using one right now to flower a bunch of plants in my main grow room.

Once you have the basic kit like tent, light(s), exhaust fan, carbon filter if odour is an issue you need to decide what method you will use to grow. Actually knowing that at the start can help decide on what kit to get but most everything is adaptable. How deep one's pockets are is also a determining factor.

I have to run to town right now my wife informs me so I'll be sure to get back to you if you have any more questions. There are lots of little things to think about too. Some are indispensable and some you can live without but can make things easier.

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Jjgrow420

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Ill run 9 plants in 3 gals in my 3x3, under a few cobs. Short veg and flip.
Got 8 in right now.
It's generally the 'test tent'. Start a few strains and just flower 1 cut off each to see if it's worth keeping and doing in the big room
 
Rurumo

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I would keep researching before you order at this point, you're getting some good advice but it's all over the place. Better to research each component you'll need, so you won't have regrets later. Keep looking at grow journals, look into soil vs soiless media, fabric vs air pots, trays/risers, circulation fans, ventilation fans, ph/ec probes, nutrients, etc. If you buy before you have some working knowledge about all the different things that go into a successful grow, you're almost certain to waste some money and end up buying something else later. I'd focus on a simple soil or promix grow with maxibloom, short veg time, and just focus on keeping your leaves looking nice and healthy-don't push high EC, don't use bloom boosters, etc. Don't buy cheap PH/EC pens either, you need reliable readings. Don't get caught up in more advanced techniques like defoliation-just get a few healthy plants across the finish line. You'll learn a ton and you'll gain a solid basis on what to do differently in the following grow. Btw, I have a gorilla tent and a Mars Hydro 3x3, and I wouldn't spend the $$$ on another gorilla-I'm very happy with the Mars tent as well as the FC3000 light. Good luck, there is a lot to learn but you're doing the right thing by asking here before you buy. For a 3x3 I also like the 6" AC infinity vent fan (buy some 6" ducting), 6" Lasko fans for circulation, either 2 gal or 3.5 gal air pots, and Squarefarmer trays (trays with built in risers)-but those are just what I use and like, there are plenty of other options out there for all of that stuff. Bluelab makes the best test pens, but you can get away with using $40 Apera pens too, be sure to buy KCL solution to store your PH pen (not necessary for EC pen.) Depending on where you live, you may need to invest in a humidifier and/or a dehumidifier-don't forget a couple of combo thermometer/hygrometers! Here is a thread on the Maxibloom KISS method that's easy for beginning growers: https://www.icmag.com/threads/the-k-i-s-s-method.189616/
 
DrDukePHD

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Rurumo said:
I would keep researching before you order at this point, you're getting some good advice but it's all over the place. Better to research each component you'll need, so you won't have regrets later. Keep looking at grow journals, look into soil vs soiless media, fabric vs air pots, trays/risers, circulation fans, ventilation fans, ph/ec probes, nutrients, etc. If you buy before you have some working knowledge about all the different things that go into a successful grow, you're almost certain to waste some money and end up buying something else later. I'd focus on a simple soil or promix grow with maxibloom, short veg time, and just focus on keeping your leaves looking nice and healthy-don't push high EC, don't use bloom boosters, etc. Don't buy cheap PH/EC pens either, you need reliable readings. Don't get caught up in more advanced techniques like defoliation-just get a few healthy plants across the finish line. You'll learn a ton and you'll gain a solid basis on what to do differently in the following grow. Btw, I have a gorilla tent and a Mars Hydro 3x3, and I wouldn't spend the $$$ on another gorilla-I'm very happy with the Mars tent as well as the FC3000 light. Good luck, there is a lot to learn but you're doing the right thing by asking here before you buy. For a 3x3 I also like the 6" AC infinity vent fan (buy some 6" ducting), 6" Lasko fans for circulation, either 2 gal or 3.5 gal air pots, and Squarefarmer trays (trays with built in risers)-but those are just what I use and like, there are plenty of other options out there for all of that stuff. Bluelab makes the best test pens, but you can get away with using $40 Apera pens too, be sure to buy KCL solution to store your PH pen (not necessary for EC pen.) Depending on where you live, you may need to invest in a humidifier and/or a dehumidifier-don't forget a couple of combo thermometer/hygrometers! Here is a thread on the Maxibloom KISS method that's easy for beginning growers: https://www.icmag.com/threads/the-k-i-s-s-method.189616/
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Cool, ill cross the $291 Gorilla off the list. You've made some great points, I think I will continue researching/asking questions for at least another week before i pull the trigger on a purchase. I need the medicine soon for my health issues but I also have limited funds & can't afford mistakes.. so i need to go slow.. buy exactly what I need the first time. Every day that passes i double my knowledge, since im starting from zero All I know for sure is... no corporate-ran dispensary is taking $300 from me for a weeks worth of Medicine, I'd rather remain in pain

Thank you all for the tips! This is a really great community, everyone is super friendly.
 
OldMedUser

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You should go here for lots of free e-books about pot and damn near anything else you can think of. Just enter 'cannabis' in the search box and away you go. PDFdrive.com

I'm getting more into breeding and making fem seeds and found great books for that there.

The guys who make ProMix have a great training centre with tons of good scientifically based articles all about growing. Lots of stuff about pot and well worth exploring to advance your growing knowledge.

Something to start you off.

Good luck!

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OldMedUser

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Jjgrow420 said:
Ill run 9 plants in 3 gals in my 3x3, under a few cobs. Short veg and flip.
Got 8 in right now.
It's generally the 'test tent'. Start a few strains and just flower 1 cut off each to see if it's worth keeping and doing in the big room
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I bought a few 10L square pots a year ago then after measuring found that I could fit 25 in a 5x5 block inside a 4x4 space with a few inches all around. So then I go back and buy a bunch more so now I have 26 of them and one day will get around to doing either a 25 or 16 plant SoG. Build a 4x4 tray out of 1x4s and line with panda film then bulk water by mixing up enough nutes and flooding the tray. With careful calculations I should never have to get rid of runoff. As the side branches grow out cut them off with 2 nodes each to keep them tall and skinny so light gets all the way to the bottom buds. Flip to flower when they're 12" tall or so with no topping. Just park one of my 600w hortilix hps lights overhead and let 'er rip. Shuffle the plants around every couple of days so they all get equal time in the sweet spot and hopefully grow evenly tho that's not a problem.

That's one of those pots I had to drill a hole in the side of to water a too tall plant I was training to be able to fit it in a ScroG with the other one. That's why I needed 26 instead of just 25. :D

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It worked pretty good if I do say so myself and I do. I up-potted both into 7gal containers before flowering. That was tricky and the other one went in a bit on it's side to fit.

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Bagginski

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You could MAKE it work, but with a 3x3 seems to me you’ll be wasting light and tent space, so not optimal.

I’d rethink the dimensions of one of ‘em…actually, I think it’d be smart to think about EACH PIECE of gear, in terms of your space and your situation. You don’t just need “one of these” and “one of those”, you need ones that will make your grow work in your space, so you need to spend time with each item in that list & decide on the right light / tent configuration, the right filter, the right electrics, waterproofing, how you plan to rig stuff, security, etc.

I’ve had to rework & refigure so many times because I *didn’t* think things through, I just thought I’d say something.
 
Hollatchaboy

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Boatguy said:
It is tough to find a premade led fixture for a 3x3... Not sure why.
I did a semi diy with a couple of hlg's to cover mine.
Almost went with a timber 4vs dimmed, but it was too much cash for me at the time. Figured it would do for now, and could handle a 4x4 if i moved up a size again
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I use a timber 4vs not dimmed. Works great.
 
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