What can be done in four years!

CunningCanuk

CunningCanuk

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Rottedroots said:
Can it be undone? The divisions, distrust and partisan politics are going to last for years and that's what his legacy will be. Trump and his senate Republicans made lying and the disembowelment of uncontestable truths the norm to the refrain of alternative facts and a biased media Let's be fair, the media is/was biased but for good reason. The main stream media WAS biased when it came to the narcissistic demagogue that was our president. I think the politically shallow Trump supporters have demonstrated their willingness to follow even the most evil of men and chalking it up to to that fact Don wasn't a politician. The Democratic party WILL be seeking retribution and punishment. The Democrats occupying the Senate are going to remember how badly they were run roughshod over and are going to do the same. There are no shortage of hate-mongering non-voters who may be more inclined to not only vote but to buy into the simple one-liners that Trump spewed without delving any deeper for the truth. This forum is a great example of an unwillingness to mend bridges and reconciling differing opinions. Either tow the line or be ousted under a barrage of insults and name calling. Biden will make an effort to be the president for all with the exception of 75 million voters who have no interest in reconciliation. I can point to one or two things he was successful in doing. He solidified the BLM movement and got more young voters to the polls like never before. I hope your right that the damage done can be undone but it's not going away anytime soon. If Trump had been successful in retaining the presidency I can't fathom where our country would be. At every level he's been a rude uncouth lying cheating dog and four more years would have solidified his base of haters and if the Senate is not able to prevent him from running for office again get ready because it's going to be a bumpy ride and we could we'll see him regain his throñe and surround himself with people who agree with his actions or else but they'll still be using the mantras of lock her up, Benghazi Benghazi, and making America great again whatever that means. Let us pray. Well you pray and I'll hope that Cruz gets the well deserved boot.
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Sir Napsalot

Sir Napsalot

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topcat said:
Both my parents taught me as much by what they did, maybe more, as what they said. Both voracious readers...of anything, it didn't matter if it was history, or a novel.
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That may well be one of the greatest songs I'm totally burned out on

Still, the message endures
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Rottedroots said:
You gotta give the guy credit. Trump has accomplished more in four years than pretty much any president in history. If he hadn't been his own worst enemy and had reined in his minions with a refrain to be patient he would still be eating burgers in the oval office. What would it have taken for him to remain in office for another four and where the hell would we be headed now. It's hard to imagine but his followers will be following someone cut from the same cloth the next time around. Be afraid.. be very afraid.
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Gotta give you credit for posting the biggest douchebag post I've read. I'm not even going to bother explaining how trump was the worst President in history. He accomplished nothing worth mentioning. Fortunately the damage he did will be repaired and America will move on leaving trump nothing more than a bad memory.
 
Rottedroots

Rottedroots

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DIY-HP-LED said:
A lot was undone in the past 48 hours, ya can't undo 400,000 deaths, but you can try to prevent as many more new ones as possible. Normalcy, decency and integrity has returned with Biden and considering what we've seen these past 4 years that's quite a bit of undoing.
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Putting a gentleman in the Whitehouse doesn't undo shit. How does normalcy, decency and integrity returning with Biden change anything. If that alone is change your dreams and expectations are lacking Having the most diverse cabinet in our history led by a man who knows first hand the tragedies of life and politics looks good on paper but doesn't change shit in the big picture. I can say again that Trump accomplished more in four years than any president in history. He brought the haters from out from the shadows and when it was over he had corrupted the minds of close to half of the country. He alienated our allies and befriended our traditional enemies. If your suggesting that the media wasn't biased against Trump your kidding yourself. So tell me oh great political savants? How long did it take Trump to UNDO Obama's achievements. Climate accord, keystone, healthcare, environment protection, Iran nuclear proliferation sure didn't hold up. Biden will try to build things back up only to have the next Republican administration take them apart and so on and so on. Everyone of Trump's followers will be back at the polls for the next cycle and there's nothing cup of Joe can do about it. Kumbaya
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Rottedroots said:
Putting a gentleman in the Whitehouse doesn't undo shit. How does normalcy, decency and integrity returning with Biden change anything. If that alone is change your dreams and expectations are lacking Having the most diverse cabinet in our history led by a man who knows first hand the tragedies of life and politics looks good on paper but doesn't change shit in the big picture. I can say again that Trump accomplished more in four years than any president in history. He brought the haters from out from the shadows and when it was over he had corrupted the minds of close to half of the country. He alienated our allies and befriended our traditional enemies. If your suggesting that the media wasn't biased against Trump your kidding yourself. So tell me oh great political savants? How long did it take Trump to UNDO Obama's achievements. Climate accord, keystone, healthcare, environment protection, Iran nuclear proliferation sure didn't hold up. Biden will try to build things back up only to have the next Republican administration take them apart and so on and so on. Everyone of Trump's followers will be back at the polls for the next cycle and there's nothing cup of Joe can do about it. Kumbaya
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Sore loser: a person who becomes very upset or angry when he or she loses a game, contest, etc.
 
V256.420

V256.420

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Rottedroots said:
Putting a gentleman in the Whitehouse doesn't undo shit. How does normalcy, decency and integrity returning with Biden change anything. If that alone is change your dreams and expectations are lacking Having the most diverse cabinet in our history led by a man who knows first hand the tragedies of life and politics looks good on paper but doesn't change shit in the big picture. I can say again that Trump accomplished more in four years than any president in history. He brought the haters from out from the shadows and when it was over he had corrupted the minds of close to half of the country. He alienated our allies and befriended our traditional enemies. If your suggesting that the media wasn't biased against Trump your kidding yourself. So tell me oh great political savants? How long did it take Trump to UNDO Obama's achievements. Climate accord, keystone, healthcare, environment protection, Iran nuclear proliferation sure didn't hold up. Biden will try to build things back up only to have the next Republican administration take them apart and so on and so on. Everyone of Trump's followers will be back at the polls for the next cycle and there's nothing cup of Joe can do about it. Kumbaya
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hanimmal

hanimmal

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Rottedroots said:
Putting a gentleman in the Whitehouse doesn't undo shit. How does normalcy, decency and integrity returning with Biden change anything. If that alone is change your dreams and expectations are lacking Having the most diverse cabinet in our history led by a man who knows first hand the tragedies of life and politics looks good on paper but doesn't change shit in the big picture.
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I would not look at the diversity first, but the incredible amount of experience and competence in their positions. Biden got the very best and brightest in these roles. And empathy is never a bad thing.


Rottedroots said:
I can say again that Trump accomplished more in four years than any president in history.
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Naive. Outside of cutting taxes for the mega wealthy and passing the Democrats prison reform bill, and screwing up the softball's that Obama left for the next president Trump really just said he did a lot and people bought it.

America is a very big nation. Lots of moving parts that have nothing to do with politics at all. Trump doesn't get to pretend like he is Jordan.


Rottedroots said:
He brought the haters from out from the shadows and when it was over he had corrupted the minds of close to half of the country. He alienated our allies and befriended our traditional enemies.
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Not half the country. About 23% max with the full weight of the executive branch propping that number up.

And yeah he did his worst to our global alliances. But other democracies are in the same boat from this attack that the Russian military has conducted on us. But fortunately the really important treaties are already signed into law and there wasn't shit he could do about it outside of embarrassing our nation.


Rottedroots said:
If your suggesting that the media wasn't biased against Trump your kidding yourself.
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This is nonsense. What is 'media'?

You are 'media' when you make that post.


Rottedroots said:
So tell me oh great political savants? How long did it take Trump to UNDO Obama's achievements.
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Trump and the Republicans werent able to take away Obama's biggest accomplishment.


Obama and the Democrats had 2 years to fix the economy, shore up the legislation on the non-bank financial institutions that tanked the Bush/Republican economy, and he still brought health insurance to over 23 million people.

Pretending like anything he tried to do when the Republicans won back the house with their Koch-funded "Tea-Party" troll about the deficit.

Rottedroots said:
Climate accord, keystone, healthcare, environment protection, Iran nuclear proliferation sure didn't hold up. Biden will try to build things back up only to have the next Republican administration take them apart and so on and so on. Everyone of Trump's followers will be back at the polls for the next cycle and there's nothing cup of Joe can do about it. Kumbaya
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Unless they get signed into law.

This is why 2022 is so important.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/2022-elections-the-steady-march-for-sanity-continues.1036620/


If the Democrats can pick up enough seats to stop the filibuster in 2022, they can get a lot done in those last 2 years of Biden's term.

If things are going as well as they could be, and our politics are free of foreign militaries attacking them, dark money, and troll candidates, Biden can ride off into the sunset in 2024.

I don't think the Republicans will have a serious candidate at that point, because of the Ted Cruz's and other political trolls that still will have seats. Hopefully by 2028 the Republicans understand they need to actual start legislating for 100% of the population and have a actually well qualified field of candidates.
 
Rottedroots

Rottedroots

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I didn't say he accomplished any thing good. I guess by media I was referring to CNN vs FOX and the like who are clearly biased toward the candidates they support and not reporting as much unbiased reporting.
They were not successful in replacing Obama care. To many Republicans utilizing the program. Keystone should have been canceled. A horribly invasive use of eminent domain and the pipe we manufactured in the Ukraine not in the USA.
Until there is so reconciliation between the parties nothing wil ultimately change. Nothing except the party's working with each other will have any effect in the long term. It will be tit for tat and you did this to me so I'm going to do this to you.
Trump suck and did accomplish a shitload of stuff. All of which need to be repealed. I guess the need to unq
He did destroy our relationships with our allies and those can and will be rebuilt.
Wattzzup said:
Sore loser: a person who becomes very upset or angry when he or she loses a game, contest, etc.
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I'm not a sore loser but thanks for the deffinition. I can't stand Trump and have never voted Republican. Trump is a dirty vile man with no class what so ever. Lying hateful SOB. The problem is his supporters and well as Senate Republicans afraid to alienate Trump and his supporters in the name of doing the right thing. They're just protecting their political future and if they can get Trump elected who knows what the next Republican candidate will bring us. Mike Pence? He's a gentleman but is so far right wing he will be worse than Trump as far as promoting so-called right-wing ideals. Trump took credit for the economy. Even after having as black man as President didn't really help race relations. Rub the noses of their enemies in shit will not help in the long term. I'm glad you're so optimistic.
 
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