What do gays really want?

Mrs. Worm

Active Member
Seems like generalizing to me. Maybe if you said "this is what a tiny fraction of gays want" it would have been accurate.
I don't think most gay people want parades like that.
Might as well say that christians want to kill doctors, if someone asks what christians want. Or, if someone asks what straight women want, you could say that they want to flash their tits at mardi gras.

That was exactly my point. Most people apply crazy shit like that to ALL gay men, thinking they're ALL crazy, flamboyant, leather & chain wearing wackos when that isn't the case at all. If straight people did that I'd still think it was disgusting. But again, that's my OPINION.
 

Mrs. Worm

Active Member
The activities are different, but the situations are extremely similar.

Cannabis users and homosexuals conduct activities traditionally shunned by the mainstream.

Neither activity is inherently harmful and does not affect other people whatsoever.

They rally, march, and protest. We rally, march, and protest.

They have GLAAD. We have the MPP.

You fail to see the similarity between the figurative gay closet and our literal grow closet.

So other than the actual activities, how are the two movements completely dissimilar?

I agree, very well said. I'm pretty sure that's the point Katawnic was trying to make, but apparently some people don't have the mental capabilities to understand that.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Seems like generalizing to me. Maybe if you said "this is what a tiny fraction of gays want" it would have been accurate.
I don't think most gay people want parades like that.
Might as well say that christians want to kill doctors, if someone asks what christians want. Or, if someone asks what straight women want, you could say that they want to flash their tits at mardi gras.
except the parade is sponsored and condoned by a lot of the gay community. i don't see any gays protesting the parade.

this IS the gay image. it's not up to me to change it.
 

Leothwyn

Well-Known Member
San Francisco and the rest of the world are two different places. Where I live there are no parades like that, and that is not the gay image.

Anyway, the amount of people who take part in that parade (or anything like that), or who sponsor such things is a SMALL fraction of the gay population on this planet. So, I would still disagree that this is what the general gay population wants. I think if we could poll the entire gay population all over the world about what they want, things like equal rights would be quite a bit higher on the list than flamboyant, assless chaps parades would. Just a wild guess...
 

Leothwyn

Well-Known Member
Why the fuck are you reading it if it gets your panties in such a bunch?! Find a thread that you like.
 
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PadawanBater

Guest
gays want ....NUTS SLAMMED IN THEIR MOUTHS EVERY FUCKING HOUR ON THE HOUR!!!!!!!! FAGGOTS!!!!! quit posting on this stupid thread so it can close already!!!!

If I were gay, I'd probably want nuts slammed in my mouth every once in a while too... Probably not every hour, but pretty often.

As a straight guy, I love me some motorboating! Why wouldn't a gay guy like the same thing?
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
amazing that someone could think that these 2 subjects (and my comment) have any similarities at all! smoking pot, and smoking a cock, have absolutely "nothing" to do with each other. we don't have straight pride parades. but if we did, wouldn't you find it strange if the participants marched down the streets naked and dressed like fools?!?! and trying to make a comparison to pot smoking, that's beyond a stretch. if you want to have your shit packed in, by all means, go for it! but don't try and compare it to smoking weed. i think maybe that last dick in your ass pierced your brain, cause you ain't making no sense gaylord, lol!
It was an analogy. Look it up.

Just because we don't see pot smokers marching naked down the streets doesn't mean there aren't a lot of "us" (i.e., the minority) that constantly behave in ways that mainstream society shun. They make the rest of us look bad, simply because they share our love for pot. That was part of my point. The other part simply goes to show that we can take any scenario generalizing any group of people, change just a few of the words, and suddenly it's a completely different group of people being generalized.

Stereotypes exist for valid reasons, but they're still only stereotypes... images put out there by the minority of any given group, that then become pinned onto anyone of that group. Guilt by association does not automatically make one guilty.

BTW, just because this is a pot growing forum dominated by men doesn't mean that all of us are men. :roll: That said, you can lay off the "dick in the ass" and other "gay" remarks you tossed at me. They don't, and can never, apply. I'd have to be a man first.

The activities are different, but the situations are extremely similar.

Cannabis users and homosexuals conduct activities traditionally shunned by the mainstream.

Neither activity is inherently harmful and does not affect other people whatsoever.

They rally, march, and protest. We rally, march, and protest.

They have GLAAD. We have the MPP.

You fail to see the similarity between the figurative gay closet and our literal grow closet.

So other than the actual activities, how are the two movements completely dissimilar?
Took the words right outta my keyboard, Johnny. ;)

That was exactly my point. Most people apply crazy shit like that to ALL gay men, thinking they're ALL crazy, flamboyant, leather & chain wearing wackos when that isn't the case at all. If straight people did that I'd still think it was disgusting. But again, that's my OPINION.
I've seen crazy, flamboyant, leather & chain wearing wacko straight men. And women, for that matter. No matter the gender or orientation, it's still stupid, disgusting, and pitiful cries for attention. IMNSHO. ;)

I agree, very well said. I'm pretty sure that's the point Katawnic was trying to make, but apparently some people don't have the mental capabilities to understand that.
Yep, that was indeed my point. :mrgreen:

except the parade is sponsored and condoned by a lot of the gay community. i don't see any gays protesting the parade.

this IS the gay image. it's not up to me to change it.
That's because the gays that reject that lifestyle wouldn't grace displays like that with their presence. Trust me, "normal" gays (i.e., the majority) resent that this image has been forced upon them thanks to the minority putting themselves out there like that and claiming they "speak" for the GLBT community.

Again with the pot smokers analogy... of all the pot smokers I've known (which have been many), I've only known a very small handful that define the Stoner Image. I've never come close to fitting that image, and it drives me crazy that so many people assume I must be "one of those stoners" just because I happen to use pot.
 

UNICRONLIVES

Well-Known Member
If I were gay, I'd probably want nuts slammed in my mouth every once in a while too... Probably not every hour, but pretty often.

As a straight guy, I love me some motorboating! Why wouldn't a gay guy like the same thing?

cause their GAY!!! DUH...padawan!!!! duh!!!....and im str8 and aint to hip on the motorboatin shit either!!! LOL!!
 

Miss MeanWeed

Active Member
[FONT=Comic Sans MS, Arial]100 Reasons to be Gay[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS, Arial]

1. You truly don't care who Julia Roberts is sleeping with.
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3. You can call anyone "honey" including pets.
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6. You can be at a crowded disco the size of two football fields and still spot a toupee.
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d) You hate people who hate Judy Garland.
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b) Chita
c) Barbra
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a) Your grandma
b) Your face lift
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Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member


It was an analogy. Look it up.

Just because we don't see pot smokers marching naked down the streets doesn't mean there aren't a lot of "us" (i.e., the minority) that constantly behave in ways that mainstream society shun. They make the rest of us look bad, simply because they share our love for pot. That was part of my point. The other part simply goes to show that we can take any scenario generalizing any group of people, change just a few of the words, and suddenly it's a completely different group of people being generalized.

Stereotypes exist for valid reasons, but they're still only stereotypes... images put out there by the minority of any given group, that then become pinned onto anyone of that group. Guilt by association does not automatically make one guilty.

BTW, just because this is a pot growing forum dominated by men doesn't mean that all of us are men. :roll: That said, you can lay off the "dick in the ass" and other "gay" remarks you tossed at me. They don't, and can never, apply. I'd have to be a man first.



Took the words right outta my keyboard, Johnny. ;)



I've seen crazy, flamboyant, leather & chain wearing wacko straight men. And women, for that matter. No matter the gender or orientation, it's still stupid, disgusting, and pitiful cries for attention. IMNSHO. ;)



Yep, that was indeed my point. :mrgreen:



That's because the gays that reject that lifestyle wouldn't grace displays like that with their presence. Trust me, "normal" gays (i.e., the majority) resent that this image has been forced upon them thanks to the minority putting themselves out there like that and claiming they "speak" for the GLBT community.

Again with the pot smokers analogy... of all the pot smokers I've known (which have been many), I've only known a very small handful that define the Stoner Image. I've never come close to fitting that image, and it drives me crazy that so many people assume I must be "one of those stoners" just because I happen to use pot.
There are nekkid people at cannabis events, rallies, and protests, too.

I've seen them.

But for some reason, nobody complains about nekkid or half-nekkid hippy chicks.

There are exhibitionists all over the place. The trait is no way limited to the gay movement.
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
although it's a weak analogy, i'll defer.
Differences in an analogy don't make it weak. If there are no differences between two different things, then they are not similar; they're identical. An analogy is using similarities to demonstrate how differing scenarios can be compared. Therefore, the differences in minute details are redundant.

Actually it was a perfect analogy, considering the type of forum this is.
Which is, of course, exactly why I used that particular analogy. :lol:

There are nekkid people at cannabis events, rallies, and protests, too.

I've seen them.

But for some reason, nobody complains about nekkid or half-nekkid hippy chicks.

There are exhibitionists all over the place. The trait is no way limited to the gay movement.
This is true. I didn't really think about that; I stand corrected. :mrgreen: Of course this only goes to show that the "Gay Image" stereotype currently being discussed is, in reality, the "Human Image."
 
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