What do gays really want?

jeffchr said:

congratulations. you've managed to convince yourself that all gays are liberals. how convenient. talk about dogma.

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Very true. A gay person does not a liberal make. Most of my gay friends are more conservative then me. The ONLY reason they tend to vote democrat is because of the scary hateful message that comes from the right. Why vote for someone who thinks it is fine to treat you like a second class citizen?

upnorth2505 said:

Yeah, right.

You mean acquaintances don't you? I’m sure that “friend” is a big stretch. I honestly can imagine why a gay person would want to be “friends” with someone who basically hates their guts.

I bet posting that gross picture really gave you a feeling of superiority.

EDIT: You got rid of your initial picture that looked like a rotting corpse from Auschwitz. Were you afraid it was too controversial or it make make you look like a complete heartless jerk?

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Number one: I didn't "get rid" of the picture. Your guess as to what happend to it is as good as mine. I don't have a clue.

Number two: Its true ... I've had a lot of GAY friends over the years, and with the exception of two, they are all dead. One is HIV positive and the other is clean. The one who is clean is in his 80s now, and attributes his longivity to the fact that he has been celebit and out of the bar scene for over 30 years now.

Number three: I don't hate Gays. In fact, I hate no one. If those pictures offended you, or illustratred the rammifications of the Gay life style for you, then somehow frightened you, then that's your problem, not mine. So, if you, or anyone else, wants to promote the Gay lifestyle as something sophisticated, artsy, wonderful, or anything else ... perhaps its time to wake up to reality. Most Gay men end up alone and as lonely old men ... if they survive, that is.

At the very least, you might want to do some introverted thinking and think about why your response was a personal attack on me. I was only the messenger, my friend.

ViRedd said:

Number one: I didn't "get rid" of the picture. Your guess as to what happend to it is as good as mine. I don't have a clue.

Sorry, but I do not believe you. I know what I saw. I am guessing you may have thought you would get a -Rep or sanction so you replaced it with something that was not as appalling and horrifying.

Number two: Its true ... I've had a lot of GAY friends over the years, and with the exception of two, they are all dead. One is HIV positive and the other is clean. The one who is clean is in his 80s now, and attributes his longivity to the fact that he has been celebit and out of the bar scene for over 30 years now.

You may have led them to believe that you were their friend, but face reality. If they had known what your true thoughts were about them, they would have had nothing to do with you.

Number three: I don't hate Gays. In fact, I hate no one. If those pictures offended you, or illustratred the rammifications of the Gay life style for you, then somehow frightened you, then that's your problem, not mine. So, if you, or anyone else, wants to promote the Gay lifestyle as something sophisticated, artsy, wonderful, or anything else ... perhaps its time to wake up to reality. Most Gay men end up alone and as lonely old men ... if they survive, that is.

Yes, you do hate gays. You may persuade yourself that it merely disapproval, but hate is hate.

The illustrated "ramifications" of the "gay lifestyle" you posted were repugnant. To imply that your average everyday gay person frequently gets these horrible diseases is false and you know it. The fact that these people were most likely gay and sick is just unfortunate; not indicative of someone "getting what they deserve." Straight people get aids too. It is horrible no matter who gets it.

I, nor anyone I know, promote the "gay lifestyle" as something hip, artsy, cool, or whatever. If this is happening at all, it is an image that is being portrayed by the mostly straight media. We do not promote a god damn thing. Almost all gays only want to fit in and nothing more. Finally, I know many gay couples who have been together years. They are not dying lonely.

At the very least, you might want to do some introverted thinking and think about why your response was a personal attack on me. I was only the messenger, my friend.

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You ARE NOT "my friend". No need for "introverted thinking" here. This is the thought that gays are too "out there" to know who their enemies are: People like you. Of course, the last thing I would want is for a "messenger" is to fuck off and die.

And as always, may the Great Spirit profoundly influence your life.

ViRedd said:

If those pictures offended you, or illustratred the rammifications of the Gay life style for you, then somehow frightened you, then that's your problem, not mine. So, if you, or anyone else, wants to promote the Gay lifestyle as something sophisticated, artsy, wonderful, or anything else ... perhaps its time to wake up to reality. Most Gay men end up alone and as lonely old men ... if they survive, that is.

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What is the argument here? That homosexual men are more susceptible to STD's than heterosexual men? There are certain STD's that are more common amongst heterosexual couples (genital herpes) and there are those that are more common amongst homosexual couples (anal warts).

How would two monogamous homosexual people contract an STD?

Or are you implying that homosexual people are less monogamous than heterosexual people?

You're welcome! And don't worry, I'll get to the rest of the bigots, too.

laughingduck said:

Thanks Stoney! I guess the anti israel, marriage, conservative, american, whitey, military, is ok. I'll be sure to read all that and never ever speak of a "gay american" again.

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ViRedd said:

Number one: I didn't "get rid" of the picture. Your guess as to what happend to it is as good as mine. I don't have a clue.

Number two: Its true ... I've had a lot of GAY friends over the years, and with the exception of two, they are all dead. One is HIV positive and the other is clean. The one who is clean is in his 80s now, and attributes his longivity to the fact that he has been celebit and out of the bar scene for over 30 years now.

Number three: I don't hate Gays. In fact, I hate no one. If those pictures offended you, or illustratred the rammifications of the Gay life style for you, then somehow frightened you, then that's your problem, not mine. So, if you, or anyone else, wants to promote the Gay lifestyle as something sophisticated, artsy, wonderful, or anything else ... perhaps its time to wake up to reality. Most Gay men end up alone and as lonely old men ... if they survive, that is.

At the very least, you might want to do some introverted thinking and think about why your response was a personal attack on me. I was only the messenger, my friend.

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In my view of life, there are things we do that bring us happiness and fulfillment and things we do that bring us pleasure, but ultimately bring sorrow. I, like you, see the gay lifestyle as being in the latter category.

I am sure there are gays who are happy being gay, but a distinction should be made between those no longer living "the gay lifestyle" and those promoting it.

Liberals, such as the ones posting here, do not understand our view of the world. They can not understand the subtle differences between seeking pleasure and seeking happiness and they can not comprehend how we could make these observations based on objectivity.

To them, all of life is dogma and all opinions contrary to their own are simply hateful. That is the great Liberal cop-out. Never address an issue, just call the person making the argument a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe or Islamophobe. That way you dismiss their argument with out having to even consider it.

Rick, we have all considered your argument and come to the same conclusion: you are a bigot.

Anyone who makes a statement like this:

"...there are things we do that bring us happiness and fulfillment and things we do that bring us pleasure, but ultimately bring sorrow. I, like you, see the gay lifestyle as being in the latter category..."

is a bigot. How does being homosexual ultimately bring sorrow? Explain this to me. I guess I just must not be able to see yoursupreme reasoning behind all my dogma about equal rights and live and let live.

Respect to the people who have the patience to respond to this shit.

here are things we do that bring us happiness and fulfillment and things we do that bring us pleasure, but ultimately bring sorrow. I, like you, see the gay lifestyle as being in the latter category..."

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If anything brings sorrow it's the crap you spew out.

just ignore him


if he disagrees with you, your either wrong, or an idiot (no matter how right you are, or how much sense you make)


head in a brick walled box

i see A LOT of gay people complain about there lack of a fulfilling life. always crying about wanting to be accepted, married, in the military... seems only logical that all this would lead to sadness. i could be wrong. anyone have suicide stats?

Wow. And so now calling someone names constitutes intelligent argument? Somebody needs their meds.

RickWhite said:

And we have all come to the conclusion that you are a brain dead moron. Why don't you go hang out in a gay bar and see what goes on there and you will not need me to explain it to you.

You know, I have never once seen you make a single post that demonstrated that you have any ability to do more than just toss out smart ass challenges to what the other person says. Show me a single post in which you have said anything thought provoking or intelligent.

And you seem to spend most of your time chasing my posts around so that you may make snide, smart ass remarks. One might even get the impression you crave my attention. I bet you even search for my posts by name just so you can try to tear down everything I say. In other words, you are constantly sucking my balls. Where are the threads that you have started? Where are the questions you have posed or the thoughts that came from your head?

There are none. You are not a big enough man to create and compile thoughts and ideas. All you know how to do is run around like a little coward and try to undermine my ideas with cheap shot, weasel challenges.

Any idiot can toss out one cheap weasel challenge after the next - you prove nothing except for what a little weasel you are and how intellectually lacking you really are.

Why don't you put down some of your own thoughts and stop sucking my balls already.

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RickWhite said:

And we have all come to the conclusion that you are a brain dead moron. Why don't you go hang out in a gay bar and see what goes on there and you will not need me to explain it to you.

You know, I have never once seen you make a single post that demonstrated that you have any ability to do more than just toss out smart ass challenges to what the other person says. Show me a single post in which you have said anything thought provoking or intelligent.

And you seem to spend most of your time chasing my posts around so that you may make snide, smart ass remarks. One might even get the impression you crave my attention. I bet you even search for my posts by name just so you can try to tear down everything I say. In other words, you are constantly sucking my balls. Where are the threads that you have started? Where are the questions you have posed or the thoughts that came from your head?

There are none. You are not a big enough man to create and compile thoughts and ideas. All you know how to do is run around like a little coward and try to undermine my ideas with cheap shot, weasel challenges.

Any idiot can toss out one cheap weasel challenge after the next - you prove nothing except for what a little weasel you are and how intellectually lacking you really are.

Why don't you put down some of your own thoughts and stop sucking my balls already.

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I may be mistaken, but that post seemed to have made no contribution and was also insulting. You called him out on these two exact things.

RickWhite said:

And we have all come to the conclusion that you are a brain dead moron. Why don't you go hang out in a gay bar and see what goes on there and you will not need me to explain it to you.

You know, I have never once seen you make a single post that demonstrated that you have any ability to do more than just toss out smart ass challenges to what the other person says. Show me a single post in which you have said anything thought provoking or intelligent.

And you seem to spend most of your time chasing my posts around so that you may make snide, smart ass remarks. One might even get the impression you crave my attention. I bet you even search for my posts by name just so you can try to tear down everything I say. In other words, you are constantly sucking my balls. Where are the threads that you have started? Where are the questions you have posed or the thoughts that came from your head?

There are none. You are not a big enough man to create and compile thoughts and ideas. All you know how to do is run around like a little coward and try to undermine my ideas with cheap shot, weasel challenges.

Any idiot can toss out one cheap weasel challenge after the next - you prove nothing except for what a little weasel you are and how intellectually lacking you really are.

Why don't you put down some of your own thoughts and stop sucking my balls already.

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Dude... weren't you just saying in another thread how "liberals" are the ones who resort to personal attacks... they never have any evidence... etc...

Fuck man, double hypocrite tonight...

Also, that bold bit, have you ever been inside a straight bar? Next time one of these bigoted thoughts pops up in your brain, and you go through it to the conclusion, to save the rest of us some time so we don't have to keep pointing it out to you, replace that second gay dude with a straight chick... then play the same scenario out, if you think it's acceptable in the one man, one woman one, but not the one man, one man one, then that's a clear indication of bigotry. You're treating the same situation different because of either a personal insecurity you might have, a lack of female attention... a hug? Idk... but there ya go, use that test next time, I for one would appreciate it. Thanks buddy!

And we have all come to the conclusion that you are a brain dead moron.

Personal attack. Perhaps something substantive is coming, something which refutes my point. Empirical evidence seems to indicate otherwise, but let's see...

Why don't you go hang out in a gay bar and see what goes on there and you will not need me to explain it to you.

I have never been to a gay bar, so why don't you just tell me what goes on in there, since you are the expert?

You know, I have never once seen you make a single post that demonstrated that you have any ability to do more than just toss out smart ass challenges to what the other person says. Show me a single post in which you have said anything thought provoking or intelligent.

Point of confusion: am I a brain dead moron, or a smart ass? Being a smart ass takes quick wit and a keen eye for bullshit, a brain dead moron has neither.

And you seem to spend most of your time chasing my posts around so that you may make snide, smart ass remarks. One might even get the impression you crave my attention. I bet you even search for my posts by name just so you can try to tear down everything I say. In other words, you are constantly sucking my balls.

I guess me sucking your balls is your new fantasy, as clearly the thought is delusional. Go look at my posts and tell me if you think I am following you around. What you are noticing is that the shit you conceive of and type is outlandish enough to provoke outrage, and not just from me. Take a look at who else responds to your mierda

Where are the threads that you have started? Where are the questions you have posed or the thoughts that came from your head? There are none. You are not a big enough man to create and compile thoughts and ideas. All you know how to do is run around like a little coward and try to undermine my ideas with cheap shot, weasel challenges.

If I am such a 'little coward' trying to 'undermine your ideas' with my 'cheap shot, weasel challenges', then why don't you be the 'big enough man' to call out the idiocy, like I do with you?

Despite being unemployed, my life still keeps me busy enough so that I do not have the time to spell out my manifesto. Rather, when I find myself bored and lingering, I sometimes end up in the politics section and find it an enjoyable past time to find the most outrageous shit I can and call it out. You happen to say the most outrageous shit with regularity. I am not taking cheap shots, I articulate why you are wrong. Why don't you do the same? Not just bullshit like this post of yours that I am dissecting

Any idiot can toss out one cheap weasel challenge after the next - you prove nothing except for what a little weasel you are and how intellectually lacking you really are.

More personal attack, which rings especially hollow coming from you. YAWN

Why don't you put down some of your own thoughts and stop sucking my balls already.

Again with the ball sucking?

dukeofbaja said:

Despite being unemployed, my life still keeps me busy enough so that I do not have the time to spell out my manifesto. Rather, when I find myself bored and lingering, I sometimes end up in the politics section and find it an enjoyable past time to find the most outrageous shit I can and call it out...

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all day, everyday.

fdd2blk said:

all day, everyday.

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Now I am starting to see your ways....and they are good.

dukeofbaja said:

Now I am starting to see your ways....and they are good.

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don't know what you are on about, i simply clicked your profile.


i'm onto calling EVERYONE out on their bullshit. it's so obvious but those caught up in it don't even see it. i laugh all day. while i admittedly sit here.

like this knee slapper, ....


"Personal attack. Perhaps something substantive is coming, something which refutes my point. Empirical evidence seems to indicate otherwise, but let's see..."

immediately followed with, ...

"I have never been to a gay bar, so why don't you just tell me what goes on in there, since you are the expert?"







this site is for entertainment purposes only.

Irony is everywhere. Good call...I couldn't help myself