What do you know about aliens?

Beefbisquit said:

If they are UFOs, or UNIDENTIFIED flying objects, how do you know they're aliens? If we knew they were aliens, wouldn't they be IFO's? Or Identified Flying Objects?

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I don't know for a fact that they were aliens, but I assume that since I saw the UFOs and then about a month later I saw a being that was (what I call) wearing an invisibility/translucent suit on top of My neighbors roof; I'd say that I saw some aliens. If they weren't aliens than they were alien posers because what person has that kind of technology to fly a craft with such bright lights, and about 8 of them at night. Also, if you only saw what I saw when I saw that being than you would have to say that they were aliens too. I tried to explain it the best I could in this thread but whos listening? If it was not aliens than it was a top secret government project but I doubt that. If it was the government than they were trying to fly craft that look like UFOs or very bright lights in the sky. And if it was the government than they have some very cool invisibility technology and they like to spy on people from (My neighbors) roof. Either way, I know what I saw and I might be jumping to conclusions by saying that I saw aliens, but I'm using My best discernment and best conclusion.

EDIT- The only thing I can conclude about the UFOs is that there were about 8 of them and all I could see were bright bluish lights high up in the sky. At first I thought they were just bright stars but then I looked at it for a second and realized that they were too bright and also they were bluish in color and slowly moving around. And as far as the being goes, all I can conclude is that it was a person, whether alien or human and it had this amazing invisibility/translucent technology. And the being was on top of My neighbors roof. But I don't believe a person would be wearing an invisibility suit on My neighbors roof.

Beef, do you believe there were people or aliens in the UFOs that I saw? And what about the being? Do you believe that it was a human or an alien WEARING AN "INVISIBILITY SUIT" on top of My neighbors roof?

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 said:

Did you really? That's crazy, talking about the movie "Independence Day".

How long did you watch the UFOs for? I only watched the ones in Massachusetts, USA for like less than 5 minutes. The UFOs I saw were mostly blue, but had some green and purple in the lights too. The reason why I only watched them for less than 5 minutes was because I didn't have insurance on My Jeep at the time and I was driving. I didn't want to pull over and park to get "pulled over" by the cops and get a ticket.

Did you get a photo of the UFOs? I was going to take a picture of the UFOs I saw with My cell phone but the street light turned green before I could bust out My cell phone from My pocket.

I wonder if there were other UFO sightings on July 2 of 2012?

I never saw UFOs before or since July 2 of 2012, but I do know that it didn't look anything like an airplane in the night sky. The lights were very bright and blue and flashing. I have never seen anything like it before or since. I didn't have time to count the UFOs but I believe there was about 8 of them. I saw them at around 11:30PM at night.

I hope if I ever see UFOs again, I will have a video camera with Me so that I can get it on tape and have actual proof.

So did you really see UFOs that night or are you just kidding? If you really did see UFOs, what can you tell Me about your sighting?

EDIT- But the alien I saw about a month after I saw the UFOs was much cooler. The UFOs were "just lights" in the sky BUT the alien was a humanoid person that was wearing a suit that made him invisible and than I saw him when he went translucent. It was the coolest thing I ever experienced. I believe the alien that I saw came off of one of the UFOs that I saw a month prior to that. He was cool.

~PEACE~

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sorry my mistake i thought it was july now lol, it was june 2 just gone at 3am, clear skies, i saw what looked like stars moving in zig zags, moving very fast but only the same size of stars to the naked eye, one went in a very large triangle stopping for an instance at the corners of said triangle. a few went straight across the sky and i could reason those to be satellites or such like but some of them moved very strange, no camera though and too small to get on the iphone

ineverveg said:

sorry my mistake i thought it was july now lol, it was june 2 just gone at 3am, clear skies, i saw what looked like stars moving in zig zags, moving very fast but only the same size of stars to the naked eye, one went in a very large triangle stopping for an instance at the corners of said triangle. a few went straight across the sky and i could reason those to be satellites or such like but some of them moved very strange, no camera though and too small to get on the iphone

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I saw My UFOs on July 2 of 2012, so that was about a year ago.

What color were the UFOs that you saw?

~PEACE~

ineverveg said:

kiss-ass

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If you smoked more weed, you would understand. You just don't get it because you haven't smoked enough.

Nevaeh420 said:

I saw My UFOs on July 2 of 2012, so that was about a year ago.

What color were the UFOs that you saw?

~PEACE~

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just exactly like a star same size to the naked eye moving amongst the stars but going in zig zags and triangles

kpmarine said:

If you smoked more weed, you would understand. You just don't get it because you haven't smoked enough.

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yeah, i guess im the dick!

ineverveg said:

yeah, i guess im the dick!

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Not a dick, you just don't seem to fathom how burden of proof works.

Nevaeh420 said:

I don't know for a fact that they were aliens, but I assume that since I saw the UFOs and then about a month later I saw a being that was (what I call) wearing an invisibility/translucent suit on top of My neighbors roof; I'd say that I saw some aliens. If they weren't aliens than they were alien posers because what person has that kind of technology to fly a craft with such bright lights, and about 8 of them at night. Also, if you only saw what I saw when I saw that being than you would have to say that they were aliens too. I tried to explain it the best I could in this thread but whos listening? If it was not aliens than it was a top secret government project but I doubt that. If it was the government than they were trying to fly craft that look like UFOs or very bright lights in the sky. And if it was the government than they have some very cool invisibility technology and they like to spy on people from (My neighbors) roof. Either way, I know what I saw and I might be jumping to conclusions by saying that I saw aliens, but I'm using My best discernment and best conclusion.

EDIT- The only thing I can conclude about the UFOs is that there were about 8 of them and all I could see were bright bluish lights high up in the sky. At first I thought they were just bright stars but then I looked at it for a second and realized that they were too bright and also they were bluish in color and slowly moving around. And as far as the being goes, all I can conclude is that it was a person, whether alien or human and it had this amazing invisibility/translucent technology. And the being was on top of My neighbors roof. But I don't believe a person would be wearing an invisibility suit on My neighbors roof.

Beef, do you believe there were people or aliens in the UFOs that I saw? And what about the being? Do you believe that it was a human or an alien WEARING AN "INVISIBILITY SUIT" on top of My neighbors roof?

~PEACE~

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I think the Unidentified Flying object is still 'unidentified'. It's possible it was aliens, but unlikely.

As for the 'invisible outline' you saw, I don't know. According to you, it was invisible; so I'm miffed at how you know it was an alien. Unless you could positively ID it as 'an alien', it could have been anything. Taking stabs in the dark at what it might be is pointless.

kpmarine said:

Not a dick, you just don't seem to fathom how burden of proof works.

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This might help him out..... then again, you can't cure stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Holder_of_the_burden

Holder of the burden

When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim. "If this responsibility or burden of proof is shifted to a critic, the fallacy of appealing to ignorance is committed".[SUP][1][/SUP] This burden does not necessarily require a mathematical or strictly logical proof, although many strong arguments do rise to this level (such as in logical syllogisms). Rather, the evidential standard required for a given claim is determined by convention or community standards, with regard to the context of the claim in question.[SUP][2][3][/SUP]

Beefbisquit said:

I think the Unidentified Flying object is still 'unidentified'. It's possible it was aliens, but unlikely.

As for the 'invisible outline' you saw, I don't know. According to you, it was invisible; so I'm miffed at how you know it was an alien. Unless you could positively ID it as 'an alien', it could have been anything. Taking stabs in the dark at what it might be is pointless.

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That's right, I saw Unidentified Flying Objects! Basically I saw about 8 bright bluish flashing lights high up in the sky that looked like stars at first but they were too bright and they were bluish and flashing and also moving slowly. I have looked at the night sky since I was born and I never saw anything that resembled the lights that I saw on July 2 of 2012. But they were just that to Me, just lights. I don't know what was behind the lights or even how big the craft was. Its a good assumption to say that it was aliens in an alien space ship because I have never seen anything like that before or since. But it could have been some top secret government project that had some special craft, but why would the lights be so bright if "they" didn't want to be seen? Speaking of "they", to be honest, I don't know if "they" were even in the craft that were flying. It could have been remotely controlled for all I know. But I FIGURE that since I saw the UFOs and than about a month later I saw the being on My neighbors roof, I assume they were BOTH alien. Alien to Me, anyways.

And speaking of the alien, at FIRST, for the first 10-30 minutes or so of looking at that direction with My BB gun, it was totally invisible. BUT AFTER, it became translucent so that I could see a figure. And after looking at it for a couple hours, I concluded that it was a being. The reason why I believe it was an alien is because it had technology that the public does not have. I don't know all the top secret technology that the government has, but the population most definitely does not have this type of invisibility technology. So all I can conclude is that it was either an alien or some top secret government project. And I don't know why the government would put a person on My neighbors roof to spy on Me. The government would be able to track My cell phone calls and track My internet activity and watch Me on the street cameras. The government could watch Me on their satellites from space with infrared technology. With infrared they could see right through walls and watch whatever is going on. I just don't see why the government would put a person on My neighbors roof. I don't know why aliens would put an alien on My neighbors roof either, but that's what I have concluded. But it could have been an alien job or a top secret government job. But I would think the government has bigger fish to fry and why would the government go to those lengths to spy on Me when they would be able to in more covert ways?

I may never know if it was an alien or a top secret government job, but I can reason that it most likely was NOT a government job and it just might have been aliens. But I might never will be sure who or what it was. All I know is that it was super cool and I feel blessed to have been able to witness what I saw and I'm grateful that I had that encounter. It was something that I will never forget.

This is how I think anyways.

EDIT- If it was the government than they know how to pose as aliens. If it was the aliens than they visited Me.

And whoever it was, they wanted to be seen or I wouldn't have seen the lights- UFOs. And if the being didn't want to be seen than he could have stayed invisible.

EDIT- This question is for all of you... What do you think I saw? An alien or a human wearing an "invisibility suit on top of My neighbors roof?

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 said:

That's right, I saw Unidentified Flying Objects! Basically I saw about 8 bright bluish flashing lights high up in the sky that looked like stars at first but they were too bright and they were bluish and flashing and also moving slowly. I have looked at the night sky since I was born and I never saw anything that resembled the lights that I saw on July 2 of 2012. But they were just that to Me, just lights. I don't know what was behind the lights or even how big the craft was. Its a good assumption to say that it was aliens in an alien space ship because I have never seen anything like that before or since. But it could have been some top secret government project that had some special craft, but why would the lights be so bright if "they" didn't want to be seen? Speaking of "they", to be honest, I don't know if "they" were even in the craft that were flying. It could have been remotely controlled for all I know. But I FIGURE that since I saw the UFOs and than about a month later I saw the being on My neighbors roof, I assume they were BOTH alien. Alien to Me, anyways.

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The chance of it being of terrestrial origin is exponentially more likely than something extraterrestrial.

And speaking of the alien, at FIRST, for the first 10-30 minutes or so of looking at that direction with My BB gun, it was totally invisible. BUT AFTER, it became translucent so that I could see a figure. And after looking at it for a couple hours, I concluded that it was a being. The reason why I believe it was an alien is because it had technology that the public does not have. I don't know all the top secret technology that the government has, but the population most definitely does not have this type of invisibility technology. So all I can conclude is that it was either an alien or some top secret government project. And I don't know why the government would put a person on My neighbors roof to spy on Me. The government would be able to track My cell phone calls and track My internet activity and watch Me on the street cameras. The government could watch Me on their satellites from space with infrared technology. With infrared they could see right through walls and watch whatever is going on. I just don't see why the government would put a person on My neighbors roof. I don't know why aliens would put an alien on My neighbors roof either, but that's what I have concluded. But it could have been an alien job or a top secret government job. But I would think the government has bigger fish to fry and why would the government go to those lengths to spy on Me when they would be able to in more covert ways?

I may never know if it was an alien or a top secret government job, but I can reason that it most likely was NOT a government job and it just might have been aliens. But I might never will be sure who or what it was. All I know is that it was super cool and I feel blessed to have been able to witness what I saw and I'm grateful that I had that encounter. It was something that I will never forget.

This is how I think anyways.

EDIT- This question is for all of you... What do you think I saw? An alien or a human?

~PEACE~

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That's great question; Why would the government sit on a roof and spy on you? I mean they have tons of technology that would allow them to spy on you from satellites, or your cellphone, or computer, etc... It does see kind of silly, doesn't it?


Now as yourself the same question, but about aliens.

Why the fuck would an alien dawn an invisibility suit and chill out on your neighbor's roof to watch you? If it was an alien, they possess the ability for intergalactic travel at light speed, or faster; but you think they need to jump ship, pop on an invisibility cloak, and spy on you? It seems so PLAUSIBLE.... Aliens; masters of space travel, but can't seem to figure out a telescope....

If our government can monitor you remotely, wouldn't it make sense that beings that are vastly more advanced than us could as well?

Sitting on a roof, watching you the old fashioned way... lol Maybe you have a secret admirer alien that wants some sweet sweet man love....

Beefbisquit said:

The chance of it being of terrestrial origin is exponentially more likely than something extraterrestrial.

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I would say that's a good guess to say that its far more likely that things be terrestrial rather than extraterrestrial. But space is a big place and everything outside of our planet is (I believe) considered extraterrestrial. My guess is that even a shooting star would be extraterrestrial before it enters the atmosphere. No? And shooting stars show up on the daily.

Beefbisquit said:

That's great question; Why would the government sit on a roof and spy on you? I mean they have tons of technology that would allow them to spy on you from satellites, or your cellphone, or computer, etc... It does see kind of silly, doesn't it?

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That's right, it sounds very silly that the government would send someone to spy on Me on My neighbors roof out of all places. And wearing some sort of invisibility suit. The government could spy on Me from satellites in outer space, with infrared technology, if they wanted to. They could probably do it from their laptops, smart phone or tablets.

Beefbisquit said:

Now as yourself the same question, but about aliens.

Why the fuck would an alien dawn an invisibility suit and chill out on your neighbor's roof to watch you? If it was an alien, they possess the ability for intergalactic travel at light speed, or faster; but you think they need to jump ship, pop on an invisibility cloak, and spy on you? It seems so PLAUSIBLE.... Aliens; masters of space travel, but can't seem to figure out a telescope....

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I don't know why aliens do anything. I don't know what aliens do but I'm sure they have their reasons.

I don't think they needed to "jump ship, pop on an invisibility cloak, and spy on you". But I have a funny feeling that they WANTED to GET SEEN by Me. At first I was just looking at why the trees leaves were blowing funny, with My BB gun. The being was totally invisible and then he just showed up. I than watched him until it got dark out and I could barely see him.

Once again, I don't know why aliens do anything because I'm not an alien. But I do know that I saw some being that has the coolest invisibility/translucent technology and he (or she) was on top of My neighbors roof. It was NOT like anything that I have seen in person or even on the internet. It seems like it was out of this world but I don't know where the technology came from to be honest.

Beefbisquit said:

If our government can monitor you remotely, wouldn't it make sense that beings that are vastly more advanced than us could as well?

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I wonder that Myself. I'm sure they could watch Me from space IF THEY WANTED TO but I don't know why they would want to UNLESS I really am the Christ. Its not like I was planning on seeing that being, I didn't invite them over or anything. I'm glad he came because it was very cool to watch and now I have a story to talk about but I don't know why I had that encounter. The only thing I can think of is that MAYBE I am the Son of God and they know about it. I believe that I am the Son of God and I have believed that since August of 2008. Maybe the aliens read our internet too? I have no idea what they do and your guess is as good as Mine.

Maybe they wanted Me to see them? If they didn't want Me to see than I wouldn't have been "allowed" to.

Beefbisquit said:

Sitting on a roof, watching you the old fashioned way... lol Maybe you have a secret admirer alien that wants some sweet sweet man love....

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It all sounds crazy, and it is, but its a true story.

I don't know who was on top of the roof that day, but I'm just guessing by saying it was an alien. It doesn't seem logical but its either that or a human wearing a type of invisibility suit. I don't see any other options. I know you guys can only go by what I say, and I wish I had a video of the encounter but I don't. I'm trying to explain it the best possible way that I can. I wish I had more answers for you all and some kind of evidence but I don't have a video camera STILL.

Thanks for listening all.

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 said:

I would say that's a good guess to say that its far more likely that things be terrestrial rather than extraterrestrial. But space is a big place and everything outside of our planet is (I believe) considered extraterrestrial. My guess is that even a shooting star would be extraterrestrial before it enters the atmosphere. No? And shooting stars show up on the daily.

That's right, it sounds very silly that the government would send someone to spy on Me on My neighbors roof out of all places. And wearing some sort of invisibility suit. The government could spy on Me from satellites in outer space, with infrared technology, if they wanted to. They could probably do it from their laptops, smart phone or tablets.



I don't know why aliens do anything. I don't know what aliens do but I'm sure they have their reasons.

I don't think they needed to "jump ship, pop on an invisibility cloak, and spy on you". But I have a funny feeling that they WANTED to GET SEEN by Me. At first I was just looking at why the trees leaves were blowing funny, with My BB gun. The being was totally invisible and then he just showed up. I than watched him until it got dark out and I could barely see him.

Once again, I don't know why aliens do anything because I'm not an alien. But I do know that I saw some being that has the coolest invisibility/translucent technology and he (or she) was on top of My neighbors roof. It was NOT like anything that I have seen in person or even on the internet. It seems like it was out of this world but I don't know where the technology came from to be honest.



I wonder that Myself. I'm sure they could watch Me from space IF THEY WANTED TO but I don't know why they would want to UNLESS I really am the Christ. Its not like I was planning on seeing that being, I didn't invite them over or anything. I'm glad he came because it was very cool to watch and now I have a story to talk about but I don't know why I had that encounter. The only thing I can think of is that MAYBE I am the Son of God and they know about it. I believe that I am the Son of God and I have believed that since August of 2008. Maybe the aliens read our internet too? I have no idea what they do and your guess is as good as Mine.



It all sounds crazy, and it is, but its a true story.

I don't know who was on top of the roof that day, but I'm just guessing by saying it was an alien. It doesn't seem logical but its either that or a human wearing a type of invisibility suit. I don't see any other options. I know you guys can only go by what I say, and I wish I had a video of the encounter but I don't. I'm trying to explain it the best possible way that I can. I wish I had more answers for you all and some kind of evidence but I don't have a video camera STILL.

Thanks for listening all.

~PEACE~

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So, if aliens exist and Jesus was real - does that mean god sent Jesus to all the other planets in the universe dying again, and again, and again to save other species from sin? Or was that just us?

If aliens exist, and the god of the bible exists - then god created aliens at the same time he created us. How come there's no mention of that in the bible?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that when the bible was written, it pretty much only mentions things within a few hundred kms of the illiterate goat herders it was written about. People a few thousand years ago didn't know about aliens, so it didn't make it into the bible.... but that's crazy talk, right? The bible was written by god! *sarcasm*

If God created us in his image, who created aliens, a different god?

Is there a King James Alien bible floating around in some other galaxy?

If god created everything for humans, why did he bother with aliens at all? Were they his failed experiments?

How can you hold the belief that the universe was created by god, for humans - and that aliens also exist?

If the bible is the true word of god, and outlines all of his creation; where's the bits about creating other species on other planets? If the bible really was the true word of god, that's not something he'd forget to mention.

After all, god is perfect - so the bible was written by a perfect being. How could he possibly forget to mention something this important?

Beefbisquit said:

So, if aliens exist and Jesus was real - does that mean god sent Jesus to all the other planets in the universe dying again, and again, and again to save other species from sin? Or was that just us?.

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I'm sure there was a man named Jesus that lived ~2,000 years ago and claimed He was the Messiah but I don't know what He said or did. I doubt He could perform the miracles alleged in the Bible. I'm sure other planets have had "people" that claimed to be the Savior there too; and I'm sure most of them died too, unless they are still alive.

Beefbisquit said:

If God created us in his image, who created aliens, a different god?.

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I personally believe that a Higher Power created everything from people on the earth to all the planets with all the aliens on them. I believe we are all gods in a very funny way.

Beefbisquit said:

Is there a King James Alien bible floating around in some other galaxy?.

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Maybe, the aliens might have written some of the Bible too. Its plausible but maybe not probable.

Beefbisquit said:

If god created everything for humans, why did he bother with aliens at all? Were they his failed experiments?.

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I don't believe God created everything for humans, but I do believe most of the earth was created for humans. Maybe the aliens are the next level in evolution, they could be very cool and friendly but they could be more advanced than us in technology. I'm sure there are more aliens in space than there are earthlings in space and they could be waiting for us to reach their level. But that's just a guess.

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Your belief in the Christian god, and belief in Aliens seem completely at odds with one another. How can you hold the belief that the universe was created by god, for humans - and that aliens also exist?.

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I believe the universe was created by a Higher Power, that I call God, for all life. I believe space is too big for there not to be any other life out there. I just don't know how much life there is in space but I'm sure its a lot.

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If the bible is the true word of god, and outlines all of his creation; where's the bits about creating other species on other planets? If the bible really was the true word of god, that's not something he'd forget to mention.

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I don't believe the Bible is infallible. I believe God would have more to say than just whats written in the Bible. I believe there is much truth in the Bible but God could say more. Who knows how much God would want to say to us? Whos to say that the Bible is the final Word of God? Everything is always updating and changing so I'm sure Gods true book would be like a never ending novel. But whos to say what God would say anyways?

~PEACE~

In 2009 I saw 5 signs in the clouds too. I have been wondering if the aliens made that happen too?

I talk about the signs in the clouds in the last part of the video but feel free to watch the whole thing. And click on My signature and read the whole thread.

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~PEACE~

ineverveg said:

Nevaeh420 ; beefy is just a troll i went deep into his posts, his pal marine is aswell and they regulary team up to to be better trolls, they arent interested in anything you put forward but like to over analize anything you write objectifying and come up with nonsense arguments!

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Pointing out mystical thinking and logical fallacies in peoples reasoning is hardly trolling. Don't get all butt hurt because you suck at debate and you can't defend your ideas. That's your problem, not mine.

Troll is as troll does. In this case it's running around starting up shit with anyone whom you don't happen to agree with under the guise of endlessly proving them wrong in an attempt to boost your self importance. I'm guessing this is a deep seated issue which plagues and taints most aspects of your life and makes people dislike you. The picture you have chosen for your profile no doubt reflects the inner you. You seem to have quite a bit of pent up hostility towards the world. No doubt it has been very unkind to you.

I feel sorry for someone who believes he needs to correct everyones thinking to conform to his own norms. Why do you even give a shit what people believe to the point you continually desire to argue with them? You seem to question everyones thinking but your own, and that is the only one worth questioning.


Neveah saw aliens and I'm fucking happy for him because most people never get to see them. He doesn't need to have his experience analyzed by some twit who has never even smoked DMT.

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Troll is as troll does. In this case it's running around starting up shit with anyone whom you don't happen to agree with under the guise of endlessly proving them wrong in an attempt to boost your self importance. I'm guessing this is a deep seated issue which plagues and taints most aspects of your life and makes people dislike you. The picture you have chosen for your profile no doubt reflects the inner you. You seem to have quite a bit of pent up hostility towards the world. No doubt it has been very unkind to you.

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Nah, bro. I'm muchos happy. I grow bomb weed, have an amazing wife and family. I hardly ever work, and I spend most of my days enjoying life and being in the sun.

I do have a vested interest in squashing magical thinking however. I have a degree in Philosophy, and this is the Philosophy section, so I spread my wings a bit. Don't like the heat? Get outta the kitchen.

I feel sorry for someone who believes he needs to correct everyones thinking to conform to his own norms. Why do you even give a shit what people believe to the point you continually desire to argue with them? You seem to question everyones thinking but your own, and that is the only one worth questioning.

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If people continually make outlandish claims and fail to provide any form of evidence, I will continue to criticize and question them.

Neveah saw aliens and I'm fucking happy for him because most people never get to see them. He doesn't need to have his experience analyzed by some twit who has never even smoked DMT.

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So, in order to 'analyze' someones 'alien story', you need to smoke DMT... right.

You just can't fix stupid. LOL

"I have a degree in Philosophy,"

I rest my case. I can't think of a more worthless degree. No wonder you feel compelled to argue anything and everything with anyone or a lamp post. You have to somehow make yourself feel good about having wasted countless years and dollars studying that cesspool of systematic abuse of language and logic they call philosophy.

Be gone foul creature.