What do you know about aliens?

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Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Kervork said:
"I have a degree in Philosophy,"

I rest my case. I can't think of a more worthless degree. No wonder you feel compelled to argue anything and everything with anyone or a lamp post. You have to somehow make yourself feel good about having wasted countless years and dollars studying that cesspool of systematic abuse of language and logic they call philosophy.

Be gone foul creature.
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Philosophy teaches critical thinking in all aspects of your life, a faculty you're demonstrably void of.

Just because you can't hang with the big boys, and talk about the grown up ideas, doesn't mean the rest of us can't. If you're ideas can't withstand basic scrutiny and criticism, they probably suck.

You still can't fix stupid...

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NietzscheKeen

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Actually, in all seriousness and honesty. Anyone that has taken more than the Intro to Philosophy course will tell you that Philosophy is probably the most useful degree out there. I once saw a list of how many CEOs have philosophy degrees. People that know, will tell you that a philosophy degree really is the best kept secret in academia.
Philosophy prepares you for so much in life; just look at the GRE and LSAT scores based on major. It also has the broadest subject matter; history, language, epistemology, mind, science, ethics, art, technology, religion, music, etc.

Those that make the statement that "philosophy is a useless degree" most likely have never taken anything beyond Intro to Philosophy.

Forgive me, but I do take it a little personally when people say that.
 
kpmarine

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Kervork said:
"I have a degree in Philosophy,"

I rest my case. I can't think of a more worthless degree. No wonder you feel compelled to argue anything and everything with anyone or a lamp post. You have to somehow make yourself feel good about having wasted countless years and dollars studying that cesspool of systematic abuse of language and logic they call philosophy.

Be gone foul creature.
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Yeah, philosophy is totally useless... I guess epistemology and ethics are worthless concepts.
 
Padawanbater2

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Kervork said:
"I have a degree in Philosophy,"

I rest my case. I can't think of a more worthless degree. No wonder you feel compelled to argue anything and everything with anyone or a lamp post. You have to somehow make yourself feel good about having wasted countless years and dollars studying that cesspool of systematic abuse of language and logic they call philosophy.

Be gone foul creature.
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What I don't understand is why anyone would think "why do you care what other people believe?" would be a good question to ask

What people believe affects the world in which they live, monumentalfacepalm.jpg, I would have thought that's obvious

If you believe, for example, like the majority of Christians that live in the United States do, that Jesus Christ will return in their lifetime, chances are you probably won't give much of a shit about the planet Earth because you'll be leaving shortly anyway to go to Heaven. It's obvious how this would cause an issue with non believers who believe everyone they love who would still be alive and their descendants after that would remain on the Earth the believers didn't give a shit about and left to rot.

This one example, among a long list of other things, are why we care what you believe. What you believe makes the world a worse place for everyone else, it's not fair, and we don't have to sit quiet and let it happen. What you're experiencing is the first stage of the shit that worked in the past to stop the questioning fall flat on its teeth and fail in the face of a generation who came up and decided to educate themselves instead of let the establishment do it for them. Like I tell everyone else, get the fuck used to it.
 
cannabineer

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mindphuk said:
For example?
Don't forget what we have told you, 'science' is not a monolith that only holds certain positions, it is a method of inquiry. Science will accept what DMT users experience as real and not merely a construction of our own minds when there is good evidence to accept it.

Let me quote from an interesting blog of one that would like to find the answer -

I encourage you to read the entire blog
The question you should be asking yourself is why do you believe such a thing? Do you believe it because of overwhelming evidence or because it would be cool and desirable?
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The part that didn't carry over in the quoted touches upon a somewhat recent thread here ... "what would convince you a religion was real?" I settled on a definite difference, a positive increment in fitness, happiness, correctness among its adherents. that would be excellent indirect evidence of an engaged divine at work. Similarly, if a consistency turns up in the experiences of many many people, this could be good evidence that a contact with an informative Other is being made. I do warn that we'd have to figure out and apply some rigorous controls to make sure we weren't simply contacting ... ourselves, ordinarily occluded bits of our deep unconscious.

I have taken DMT on numerous occasions. I never got an impression of contacting anOther that couldn't be explained by applying Jung. cn
 
tyler.durden

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cannabineer said:
The part that didn't carry over in the quoted touches upon a somewhat recent thread here ... "what would convince you a religion was real?" I settled on a definite difference, a positive increment in fitness, happiness, correctness among its adherents. that would be excellent indirect evidence of an engaged divine at work. Similarly, if a consistency turns up in the experiences of many many people, this could be good evidence that a contact with an informative Other is being made. I do warn that we'd have to figure out and apply some rigorous controls to make sure we weren't simply contacting ... ourselves, ordinarily occluded bits of our deep unconscious.

I have taken DMT on numerous occasions. I never got an impression of contacting anOther that couldn't be explained by applying Jung. cn
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Great post, but I fear you may be written off as another 'troll'...
 
ineverveg

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kpmarine said:
And the scientific method, of course.
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kiss-ass

cannabineer said:
The part that didn't carry over in the quoted touches upon a somewhat recent thread here ... "what would convince you a religion was real?" I settled on a definite difference, a positive increment in fitness, happiness, correctness among its adherents. that would be excellent indirect evidence of an engaged divine at work. Similarly, if a consistency turns up in the experiences of many many people, this could be good evidence that a contact with an informative Other is being made. I do warn that we'd have to figure out and apply some rigorous controls to make sure we weren't simply contacting ... ourselves, ordinarily occluded bits of our deep unconscious.

I have taken DMT on numerous occasions. I never got an impression of contacting anOther that couldn't be explained by applying Jung. cn
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This article may be confusing or unclear to readers. whom have not taken DMT
Machine elves (also known as fractal elves, self-transforming machine elves) is a term coined by the late ethnobotanist, writer and philosopher Terence McKenna to describe the apparent entities (described as "elves") that have been reported by users of dimethyltryptamine.[SUP][1][/SUP] References to such encounters can be found in many cultures ranging from shamanic traditions of native Americans to indigenous Australians and African tribes, as well as among western users of these substances

tyler.durden said:
Great post, but I fear you may be written off as another 'troll'...
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WHY? HE HAS A VALID OPINION AS HE STATES HE HAS TRIED IT ,NO TROLLING THERE MATEY,HAVE A LOOK CLOSER TO HOME!
 
ineverveg

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kpmarine said:
And the scientific method, of course.
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kiss-ass

cannabineer said:
The part that didn't carry over in the quoted touches upon a somewhat recent thread here ... "what would convince you a religion was real?" I settled on a definite difference, a positive increment in fitness, happiness, correctness among its adherents. that would be excellent indirect evidence of an engaged divine at work. Similarly, if a consistency turns up in the experiences of many many people, this could be good evidence that a contact with an informative Other is being made. I do warn that we'd have to figure out and apply some rigorous controls to make sure we weren't simply contacting ... ourselves, ordinarily occluded bits of our deep unconscious.

I have taken DMT on numerous occasions. I never got an impression of contacting anOther that couldn't be explained by applying Jung. cn
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This article may be confusing or unclear to readers. whom have not taken DMT
Machine elves (also known as fractal elves, self-transforming machine elves) is a term coined by the late ethnobotanist, writer and philosopher Terence McKenna to describe the apparent entities (described as "elves") that have been reported by users of dimethyltryptamine.[SUP][1][/SUP] References to such encounters can be found in many cultures ranging from shamanic traditions of native Americans to indigenous Australians and African tribes, as well as among western users of these substances

tyler.durden said:
Great post, but I fear you may be written off as another 'troll'...
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WHY? HE HAS A VALID OPINION AS HE STATES HE HAS TRIED IT ,NO TROLLING THERE MATEY,HAVE A LOOK CLOSER TO HOME!
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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I've known about the "machine elves" and have been on the lookout whenever I chose to Dimetripp™. Never encountered any such, and i freely admit that it could be just the way the drug and I interact. I did encounter something vaguely similar once while I was bombed flat on bupropion. Cute little fuckers, even though I only sensed "presence" and not any audiovisuals. cn
 
Heisenberg

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You guys are interrupting a mutual mental masturbation session between two people who are not concerned with anything but the pleasure of fantasy. These people depend on farce to make sense of the world. When I jerk off, I do not care if my fantasies are real, and this is how I would respond to anyone trying to interrupt my pleasure with realistic thinking.

If the masturbators do not want to be interrupted while stroking each others mental pleasure centers, they should do it in private.
 
ineverveg

ineverveg

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cannabineer said:
I've known about the "machine elves" and have been on the lookout whenever I chose to Dimetripp™. Never encountered any such, and i freely admit that it could be just the way the drug and I interact. I did encounter something vaguely similar once while I was bombed flat on bupropion. Cute little fuckers, even though I only sensed "presence" and not any audiovisuals. cn
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17ml socket filled with steel wool
200mg melted into steel wool
1 gallon drum with hole at base the size of your thumb nail
fill with water and apply flame and let out water while constant flame is applied
drain water,lie down and use a straw to take in all the vapour
i believe this to be the strongest poss delivery and everytime i feel the presence!
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

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Im too tired and lazy to catch up with the thread. Is the subject still aliens or did it get side tracked?

Weather balloons... Give me a break :lol:
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Heisenberg said:
You guys are interrupting a mutual mental masturbation session between two people who are not concerned with anything but the pleasure of fantasy. These people depend on farce to make sense of the world. When I jerk off, I do not care if my fantasies are real, and this is how I would respond to anyone trying to interrupt my pleasure with realistic thinking.

If the masturbators do not want to be interrupted while stroking each others mental pleasure centers, they should do it in private.
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I think I will wash my hands now. cn
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Heisenberg said:
You guys are interrupting a mutual mental masturbation session between two people who are not concerned with anything but the pleasure of fantasy. These people depend on farce to make sense of the world. When I jerk off, I do not care if my fantasies are real, and this is how I would respond to anyone trying to interrupt my pleasure with realistic thinking.

If the masturbators do not want to be interrupted while stroking each others mental pleasure centers, they should do it in private.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Heisenberg again.
 
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