What do you think is an appropriate raise for someone working minimum wage?

NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
$7.25 an hour

1 year of work, no sick days. I work 1 year at minimum wage without calling out once, receiving 0 customer complaints, totally ideal minimum wage worker in every respect.. How much do you think, MAXIMUM, should I be compensated for, if at all? Why?
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It is not about what they pay you. It is about what you are worth. Successful people work on their job not just at their job.

So, over the last year of work with no sick days and no customer complaints, what have you learned that makes you a more valuable employee to your current employer and to other employers. What job skills have you improved, what technical training have you gained or learned on the job?

If you have worked to make yourself a more valuable employee and gained responsibility and trust/loyalty you should be worth more to your company. Unfortunately in many cases the value the employee feels he has added is not the same as the employer.

Your strength comes from your ability to offer your skills to other employers. If you are valuable to one company you will be valuable to another company. So, if you are not being compensated fairly it is time to go look elsewhere for a new job with more responsibility and consequently more income.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
It is not about what they pay you. It is about what you are worth. Successful people work on their job not just at their job.

So, over the last year of work with no sick days and no customer complaints, what have you learned that makes you a more valuable employee to your current employer and to other employers. What job skills have you improved, what technical training have you gained or learned on the job?

If you have worked to make yourself a more valuable employee and gained responsibility and trust/loyalty you should be worth more to your company. Unfortunately in many cases the value the employee feels he has added is not the same as the employer.

Your strength comes from your ability to offer your skills to other employers. If you are valuable to one company you will be valuable to another company. So, if you are not being compensated fairly it is time to go look elsewhere for a new job with more responsibility and consequently more income.
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speaking of job skills, don't you scrape shit off of pools for $20 a pop?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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NLXSK1 said:
It is not about what they pay you. It is about what you are worth. Successful people work on their job not just at their job.

So, over the last year of work with no sick days and no customer complaints, what have you learned that makes you a more valuable employee to your current employer and to other employers. What job skills have you improved, what technical training have you gained or learned on the job?

If you have worked to make yourself a more valuable employee and gained responsibility and trust/loyalty you should be worth more to your company. Unfortunately in many cases the value the employee feels he has added is not the same as the employer.

Your strength comes from your ability to offer your skills to other employers. If you are valuable to one company you will be valuable to another company. So, if you are not being compensated fairly it is time to go look elsewhere for a new job with more responsibility and consequently more income.
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What do you think about this?

 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
What do you think about this?
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Why would I think anything about it? I just explained to you that you and everyone else is worth what they make themselves worth in terms of value.

You seem to think your employer is your parents somehow and they MUST pay you an increasing wage to suit your lifestyle. it doesnt work that way. If you do not like what your boss is paying you and you have developed skills then you go somewhere else. If your boss wants to keep you he meets or exceeds the new job offer.

A burger flipping job at McDonalds will never be worth paying the employee 40K no matter how good they are, the income from the job simply does not support it. So if the burger flipper wants to make more money he becomes a manager, not demands that McD's pay him 40K as a burger flipper.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
Why would I think anything about it? I just explained to you that you and everyone else is worth what they make themselves worth in terms of value.

You seem to think your employer is your parents somehow and they MUST pay you an increasing wage to suit your lifestyle. it doesnt work that way. If you do not like what your boss is paying you and you have developed skills then you go somewhere else. If your boss wants to keep you he meets or exceeds the new job offer.

A burger flipping job at McDonalds will never be worth paying the employee 40K no matter how good they are, the income from the job simply does not support it. So if the burger flipper wants to make more money he becomes a manager, not demands that McD's pay him 40K as a burger flipper.
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again, isn't your skill set scrubbing shit off of pools?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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NLXSK1 said:
Why would I think anything about it? I just explained to you that you and everyone else is worth what they make themselves worth in terms of value.

You seem to think your employer is your parents somehow and they MUST pay you an increasing wage to suit your lifestyle. it doesnt work that way. If you do not like what your boss is paying you and you have developed skills then you go somewhere else. If your boss wants to keep you he meets or exceeds the new job offer.

A burger flipping job at McDonalds will never be worth paying the employee 40K no matter how good they are, the income from the job simply does not support it. So if the burger flipper wants to make more money he becomes a manager, not demands that McD's pay him 40K as a burger flipper.
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It's funny you can't define a reasonable dollar amount for a raise for a minimum wage employee with only good marks..
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
It's funny you can't define a reasonable dollar amount for a raise for a minimum wage employee with only good marks..
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I am not sure why you are for minimum wage. It simply means the government forbids you to take a job for any less. They are taking your freedom away, not giving you anything.

I keep trying to explain how it is about you and your abilities and you keep going back to some socialist mathematical formula that does not take into account the revenue the job generates and the individual skill levels, knowledge and experience of the workers. Do you really wish to be lumped in with every other minimum wage worker? Dont you have some skills that set you apart and above?

In certain parts of the country right now the minimum wage is 30+ dollars an hour because the market has created a lack of employees and thus market forces have driven the wages up to an unsustainable level. Is that unfair to the people making a lot of money?

There is no reasonable nor unreasonable dollar amount raise for a minimum wage employee, only what you have negotiated with your employer when you voluntarily accepted the position.

If you only make 7.25 an hour you could go get a job like Schuylarr and make between $9 and $12.00 per hour. If it is a sales telephone job you could get more. That is entry level.

See how quickly you can raise your own wages?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
I am not sure why you are for minimum wage. It simply means the government forbids you to take a job for any less. They are taking your freedom away, not giving you anything.

I keep trying to explain how it is about you and your abilities and you keep going back to some socialist mathematical formula that does not take into account the revenue the job generates and the individual skill levels, knowledge and experience of the workers. Do you really wish to be lumped in with every other minimum wage worker? Dont you have some skills that set you apart and above?

In certain parts of the country right now the minimum wage is 30+ dollars an hour because the market has created a lack of employees and thus market forces have driven the wages up to an unsustainable level. Is that unfair to the people making a lot of money?

There is no reasonable nor unreasonable dollar amount raise for a minimum wage employee, only what you have negotiated with your employer when you voluntarily accepted the position.

If you only make 7.25 an hour you could go get a job like Schuylarr and make between $9 and $12.00 per hour. If it is a sales telephone job you could get more. That is entry level.

See how quickly you can raise your own wages?
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again, don't you scrub shit off of pools?
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Padawanbater2 said:
$7.25 an hour

1 year of work, no sick days. I work 1 year at minimum wage without calling out once, receiving 0 customer complaints, totally ideal minimum wage worker in every respect.. How much do you think, MAXIMUM, should I be compensated for, if at all? Why?
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How old are you pada?
 
TBoneJack

TBoneJack

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Padawanbater2 said:
$7.25 an hour

1 year of work, no sick days. I work 1 year at minimum wage without calling out once, receiving 0 customer complaints, totally ideal minimum wage worker in every respect.. How much do you think, MAXIMUM, should I be compensated for, if at all? Why?
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Somebody this good and hard working and attentive should not be wasting their time working a minimum wage job. They should be in school.

Independent living pay for meager minimum wage jobs is a crazy pipe dream.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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TBoneJack said:
Somebody this good and hard working and attentive should not be wasting their time working a minimum wage job. They should be in school.

Independent living pay for meager minimum wage jobs is a crazy pipe dream.
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A living wage is not a pipe dream, it's common sense
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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NLXSK1 said:
Then go out and start a company and pay a living wage. You seem unwilling to do the very thing you demand from other people.
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What kind of silly ass absence of logic is that? So unless I own a company and pay my employees a living wage I can't support raising slave wages to living wages?

You think that one all the way through?
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
What kind of silly ass absence of logic is that? So unless I own a company and pay my employees a living wage I can't support raising slave wages to living wages?

You think that one all the way through?
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The government allows the payment of slave wages?

How does voluntary employment equal slavery? Seriously?

You think that one all the way through. Past the slogans...

Going around in circles. The higher you make mandatory wages the less jobs are available and the higher the unemployment is.

I will just wait for you to post this again in a few months.
 
TBoneJack

TBoneJack

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Padawanbater2 said:
A living wage is not a pipe dream, it's common sense
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It's not common sense that a bus boy or waitress or McDonald's line worker should be paid enough for housing, car, child care, and necessities for working a meager, unskilled job that even most 9th grade high school kids could do.

And furthermore, continually subsidizing these people just perpetuates their continued below-standard contribution to the gene pool.
 
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