HGK420
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sooo i just grabbed an entire run of house and garden today...... I've been very very curious about all the hubbub this stuff is causing. I've ran just about every "Line" in the book and they really are no different. just different combinations of the same stuff. like mexican vs italian food... 90% the same ingredients in different proportions.
house and garden on the other hand seems to be promising an awful lot that will differentiate it from the rest. NO SALT BUILD UP is the number one OMG in my book. thats my biggest headache with a DTW system and why i have only ran automated twice.
Drip clean is another one that is interesting. supposedly if i were to use it in a system that hasn't been using H&G nutes from day 1 it would kill my plants because all the salts will break loose and all go to the plants at once.... this sounds to me to be a flush type product? like clearex maybe?
i got a big ole batch of all organic soil cooking up at the moment too so lets not let this thread turn into a YOU SHOULD DO THIS!! type of thing. lets just talk about the issues we've came across and what you did to fix it. maybe someone else has ideas if said issues still plague you.
now the whole organic vs synth debate is a big one that could blow this thread all out too. for some very complicated reasons organics or synths might just be the perfect method for someone to grow, maybe not you, but for someone else it might be the only thing thats worked good for them. maybe just read why it worked and take this into acct before we go on the attack. properly grown synth weed is just as quality as organics is and organics has a whole set of its own issues to contend with. so lets just keep it fun and talk about things that we PERSONALLY have experience with. no hear say please. we could build a nice pile of info here.
the H&G run cost $518 dollars for anyone who was wondering..... yes $518... now i know what your thinking rrog..... "I coulda bought so many damn mushrooms with that $518!" But hear me out! like i said i wanna automate some stuff so i got more time for the little tikes! yes tikeS, we just found out my ole lady is pregnant again so I'm just trying to get a nice automated setup all tuned in before i got my hands really full with 2 kids in diapers!
Im gonna run with Hellraizers setup with the corrugated roof table to drain any overflow off into some gutters then off to a drain. hellraizer has some great info over at TSD. i thought their was a thread here too but i cant seem to find it. if anyone could steer me that way that would be cool!
another strange thing quick, The house and garden schedule says to "mix A then let stand, mix B then let stand" "NEVER mix a and B in concentrate!" so thats cool..... and it also says to adjust my PH after adding the bases then to add the "Stimulants" and go. no more adjusting after the bases... the stimulants will cause it to drop but thats ok its a "Natural" process...... if i haven't read and seen so much good done by these guys id for sure say they are full of shit but damn.... idk... every instinct tells me not to listen to it but what do you guys think? should i?
house and garden on the other hand seems to be promising an awful lot that will differentiate it from the rest. NO SALT BUILD UP is the number one OMG in my book. thats my biggest headache with a DTW system and why i have only ran automated twice.
Drip clean is another one that is interesting. supposedly if i were to use it in a system that hasn't been using H&G nutes from day 1 it would kill my plants because all the salts will break loose and all go to the plants at once.... this sounds to me to be a flush type product? like clearex maybe?
i got a big ole batch of all organic soil cooking up at the moment too so lets not let this thread turn into a YOU SHOULD DO THIS!! type of thing. lets just talk about the issues we've came across and what you did to fix it. maybe someone else has ideas if said issues still plague you.
now the whole organic vs synth debate is a big one that could blow this thread all out too. for some very complicated reasons organics or synths might just be the perfect method for someone to grow, maybe not you, but for someone else it might be the only thing thats worked good for them. maybe just read why it worked and take this into acct before we go on the attack. properly grown synth weed is just as quality as organics is and organics has a whole set of its own issues to contend with. so lets just keep it fun and talk about things that we PERSONALLY have experience with. no hear say please. we could build a nice pile of info here.
the H&G run cost $518 dollars for anyone who was wondering..... yes $518... now i know what your thinking rrog..... "I coulda bought so many damn mushrooms with that $518!" But hear me out! like i said i wanna automate some stuff so i got more time for the little tikes! yes tikeS, we just found out my ole lady is pregnant again so I'm just trying to get a nice automated setup all tuned in before i got my hands really full with 2 kids in diapers!
Im gonna run with Hellraizers setup with the corrugated roof table to drain any overflow off into some gutters then off to a drain. hellraizer has some great info over at TSD. i thought their was a thread here too but i cant seem to find it. if anyone could steer me that way that would be cool!
another strange thing quick, The house and garden schedule says to "mix A then let stand, mix B then let stand" "NEVER mix a and B in concentrate!" so thats cool..... and it also says to adjust my PH after adding the bases then to add the "Stimulants" and go. no more adjusting after the bases... the stimulants will cause it to drop but thats ok its a "Natural" process...... if i haven't read and seen so much good done by these guys id for sure say they are full of shit but damn.... idk... every instinct tells me not to listen to it but what do you guys think? should i?
I'm an organic guy, self proclaimed connoisseur of the finer flavors and more natural approach-I do soil mostly and compost and all that but if I stop trying, I stop evolving and won't ever be the best (ultimate goal, grow the best in the world and be the best I can be as a grower) so I try this and that. These nutes are over 3 years old, the hydroton is about 5 years old and the bucket was nearly free. with almost 0$ into this trial any pot from it is a huge score. Rrog, I still read the organic section and living soil and my recipe expands often on your advice so don't feel like I'm stepping out on you LOL. I aint broke up with soil yet but like a horny teenager I take my bone down the easiest path to get me where I gots to get ROTFL dig? I assume I'll find that this shit grows well in hydro the way I'm rolling right now clan-style apparently-HIPPY U THE MAN- but there will be something missing or lacking in the final product. if its not obvious what was dro and what was soil I'll likely fold up my garbage bins of dirt and be a dro man 90% with 10% refining my soil recipe. I likely won't stop either one cold but the path of least resistance is me and drop is just easier.....assuming I can get the same quality