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What if aliens...

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
you said aliens to start and cant be changing to ghosts and goblins mid discussion, start a new fucking thread, LMAO
And aliens and goblins are the same thing anyways.

One would just have the ability to travel to us, while the other is a dumb "dark age" monster that could become an "alien" visitor in the future.

And ghosts could be aliens too.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
This just isn't true.

Aliens did and do exist. It is foolish to believe we are alone in, or the main focus of the stars.

Ghosts/Spirits of some sort, maybe people on another light spectrum DO exist. People see them, are changed by them, gain help from/help them, get scared by them all the time.

And people in the future WILL/do exist.

And species underground DO exist. To say one may be as conscious as us isn't crazy. Any surviving dinosaurs would have gone towards the core if the sun was blotted out. So dinosaurs, and underground species could be one in the same.
Nobody has found a single bit of evidence for extraterrestrial life let alone intelligence. How can you say that aliens did and do exist? It's possible that alien life exists/existed somewhere, but speculation and fact are two nonoverlapping categories.

i won't even ask you why you say they do, because there simply isn't any evidence. The other problem here is that the concept of aliens and supernatural agencies is somehow irresistible to the human psyche. (Un)fortunately, you can't weigh a wish. cn
 
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Play the smoking game, liek the drinking game just smoke instead

o play this game you, obviously, need some episodes of X-Files and something to drink. Here at RIU, we smoke If you want to get tanked, we recommend a constantly supply of good cannabis.

Do not be shy about yelling out, "toke[/COLOR"] if no one else is paying attention. Whoever yells "toke[/COLOR"] first does not have to take a toke
One toke
Mulder utters a wry witticism or "Mulderism" (two toke if Scully actually smiles as a result).
Mulder or Scully smile.
See numbers 10, 13, or 10/13 (Chris Carter's wife's birthday), or 11/21 (Chris Carter's birthday). We don't really know which is whose birthday.
Any character, including Mulder or Scully, shows their badge.
Mulder s called "Fox."
Scully is called "Dana."
Mulder eats sunflower seeds.
Reference is made to Mulder's obsession with porn.
Mulder talks to Deep Throat or Mr. X.
A computer does something computers cannot do.
You see Smoking Man (smoking or not).
Mulder or Scully call each other on cell phone and say, "It's me" or "Where are you?"
Scully gives some long "scientific" explanation.
Scully does an autopsy.
Mulder or Scully is using a car-battery-powered Super-Flashlight.
Mulder happens to know/notice some obscure fact which later helps solve the case.
Scully misses the proof of a paranormal event.
Mulder goes into a dark room and yells, "SCULLY!?!"
Scully goes into a dark room and yells, "MULDER!?!"
Scully calls a connection/evidence "purely circumstantial" or "scientifically impossible."
Skinner is seen outside of FBI Headquarters.
Lone Gunmen appear/are consulted.
Mulder loses or destroys his overcoat, and later appears wearing it again as if nothing had happened.

Two toke:

Scully happens to know/notice some obscure fact which later helps solve the case.
Scully gets kidnapped.
Mulder and Scully actually touch each other, anywhere, anyhow.
Smoking Man smokes in front of a "No Smoking" sign.
Mulder's sister is mentioned (by him or anyone else).
Mulder actually watches porn, or there is physical evidence of porno.
Mulder puts a masking-tape X on the window.
Scully wears any footwear other than pumps.
Scully tells Mulder to "get some sleep."
A mutant/alien/monster kills someone.
Mulder is called "Spooky."
Scully is called "Starbuck."
Mulder is seen in his underwear or a Speedo swimsuit.
Scully smokes a cigarette, or Mulder has a drink.
Mulder or Scully actually shoot their guns.
They drive a car other than a Ford Taurus.
Scully drives.
Credits say something other than "The Truth is Out There."
Mulder or Scully have a date or romantic encounter (not with each other).
Well-Manicured Man (or any other of the mysterious cabal) appears.

One Big bowl
Mulder and Scully kiss or say, "I love you."
You actually see an alien or UFO.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
Nobody has found a single bit of evidence for extraterrestrial life let alone intelligence. How can you say that aliens did and do exist? It's possible that alien life exists/existed somewhere, but speculation and fact are two nonoverlapping categories.

i won't even ask you why you say they do, because there simply isn't any evidence. The other problem here is that the concept of aliens and supernatural agencies is somehow irresistible to the human psyche. (Un)fortunately, you can't weigh a wish. cn
Because dinosaurs were here.
Now we are here.
Bacteria is here.
Plants are here.

We are not the only planet that got all of this.


Even if we ARE the only planet that got humans, the amount of life that has come and gone on this planet alone, is evidence enough that another planet somewhere has SOME KIND of alien life.
Be it plant, bacteria, or something we have NEVER found.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
Nobody has found a single bit of evidence for extraterrestrial life let alone intelligence. How can you say that aliens did and do exist? It's possible that alien life exists/existed somewhere, but speculation and fact are two nonoverlapping categories.

i won't even ask you why you say they do, because there simply isn't any evidence. The other problem here is that the concept of aliens and supernatural agencies is somehow irresistible to the human psyche. (Un)fortunately, you can't weigh a wish. cn
And aliens isn't the only thing you claimed didn't exist that I said existed.

You are forgetting that you said like 6 other things didn't exist that I replied to. Then you dropped.

Aliens did and do exist. It is foolish to believe we are alone in, or the main focus of the stars.

Ghosts/Spirits of some sort, maybe people on another light spectrum DO exist. People see them, are changed by them, gain help from/help them, get scared by them all the time.

And people in the future WILL/do exist.

And species underground DO exist. To say one may be as conscious as us isn't crazy. Any surviving dinosaurs would have gone towards the core if the sun was blotted out. So dinosaurs, and underground species could be one in the same.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Because dinosaurs were here.
Now we are here.
Bacteria is here.
Plants are here.

We are not the only planet that got all of this.


Even if we ARE the only planet that got humans, the amount of life that has come and gone on this planet alone, is evidence enough that another planet somewhere has SOME KIND of alien life.
Be it plant, bacteria, or something we have NEVER found.
The first four lines are correct, but I do not see how they lead to the bolded statement.
We have no evidence for that being fact. it is at best speculation, and at worst leads to magical thinking.

I disagree with the part below the bolded. You are somehow turning speculation and an argumentum ad ignorantiam into "evidence". This is closely akin to the abortive logic of the Fine-tuned Universe doctrinaires. Evidence is something that can be inspected by the senses, and for life away from this planet, there is simply noneat this time. cn
 

shrigpiece

Well-Known Member
Thers some spooky carvings in stone in south america that resembles dinosaurs. You know what dinosaurs were known as before the 1800s?
Dragons. Theres no evidence that man didn't walk along side dragons/dinosaurs.
Speacking of spooky south american stone carvings, what about the dude sat in what resembles a rocket? And the various cave drawings that resemble aliens or travellers of some kind. Some dated 30,000 years old?
Teres some strange and wonderfal mysteries on planet earth.
PEACE
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
The first four lines are correct, but I do not see how they lead to the bolded statement.
We have no evidence for that being fact. it is at best speculation, and at worst leads to magical thinking.

I disagree with the part below the bolded. You are somehow turning speculation and an argumentum ad ignorantiam into "evidence". This is closely akin to the abortive logic of the Fine-tuned Universe doctrinaires. Evidence is something that can be inspected by the senses, and for life away from this planet, there is simply noneat this time. cn
I'm not "turning speculation into evidence" I just "Presented evidence"
We have to much diversity on this single planet. And tons of other forms of life could have developed tons of other ways.


Dinosaurs could be aliens. One could have left and come back later. OR got dropped off here, as an alien species, by other aliens.
Ghosts could be aliens that came to earth, but are a completely different form of life.
Those were speculations.


What has happened, and does happen on our planet is evidence enough to show that things DO, have, and will happen on planets in this universe to make life.
That is NOT speculation.

And even if not a single other planet has gotten life, how can you say it is fact that not one species has left this planet? Is that a fact you would protect?
 

PeyoteReligion

Well-Known Member
Nobody has found a single bit of evidence for extraterrestrial life let alone intelligence. How can you say that aliens did and do exist? It's possible that alien life exists/existed somewhere, but speculation and fact are two nonoverlapping categories.

i won't even ask you why you say they do, because there simply isn't any evidence. The other problem here is that the concept of aliens and supernatural agencies is somehow irresistible to the human psyche. (Un)fortunately, you can't weigh a wish. cn
I measure wishes in my hand. Unfortunately the one I shit in always fills up first...
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
If you can say it is fact that not one species has gone from our planet to somewhere else, or from somewhere else to out planet, except man on the moon.

Then you can go ahead and say that it is fact that aliens don't exist.

But it doesn't make you right either way. You just CAN say it. :D
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
And aliens isn't the only thing you claimed didn't exist that I said existed.

You are forgetting that you said like 6 other things didn't exist that I replied to. Then you dropped.

I do not know of a single clear, demonstrable case of people being contacted or aided by spirits. Stories abound, yes. However absolving those of the usual difficulties that trouble eyewitness account (even of utterly mundane things) has so far yielded nothing as far as i know. Claims of the superatural are extraordinary, and require MUCH more than someone's personal story to qualify as possessing evidence.

I don't want to get into an argument about articles of faith. But I will ask that you not present things ranging from unproven to unlikely as established fact - especially the usual suspects: things that pander to our talent for finding pattern and meaning where none exist. cn
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
I do not know of a single clear, demonstrable case of people being contacted or aided by spirits. Stories abound, yes. However absolving those of the usual difficulties that trouble eyewitness account (even of utterly mundane things) has so far yielded nothing as far as i know. Claims of the superatural are extraordinary, and require MUCH more than someone's personal story to qualify as possessing evidence.

I don't want to get into an argument about articles of faith. But I will ask that you not present things ranging from unproven to unlikely as established fact - especially the usual suspects: things that pander to our talent for finding pattern and meaning where none exist. cn
I have PERSONALLY had experience with other spectrum/bodied/or spirit beings.

Repeatedly, and outside third person people have come in, and had the SAME experiences in the SAME place.

There IS some kind of people whether they are made of shadows, light doesn't bounce off them (so we can't see them), they are from some sort of heaven/hell or other dimension, or another planet.

THEY ARE REAL.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
Come March once I reveal who I am (show my face) to RIU, me an you can have a telethon and talk to everyone that ever saw anything in my old house.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
I can also get you in contact with some people who have family in Jordan who have had experience with demons, and visual deception magic type stuff.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I'm not "turning speculation into evidence" I just "Presented evidence"
No.
We have to much diversity on this single planet. And tons of other forms of life could have developed tons of other ways.
Speculation.
Dinosaurs could be aliens. One could have left and come back later. OR got dropped off here, as an alien species, by other aliens.
Ghosts could be aliens that came to earth, but are a completely different form of life.
Those were speculations.


What has happened, and does happen on our planet is evidence enough to show that things DO, have, and will happen on planets in this universe to make life.
That is NOT speculation.
I think this is where we have an insoluble difference of method.
Saying "life is too complex to have evolved from nothing on this one planet" is neither fact nor necessarily correct. So i do maintain that you're dressing up unsupported speculation as fact. I think it is eminently possible that life started here and stayed here.
And even if not a single other planet has gotten life, how can you say it is fact that not one species has left this planet? Is that a fact you would protect?
We visited our local satellite, very briefly and at great expense. We have a space station that is a large resource drain. We are by no useful measure a spacefaring species. i hope "yet" applies.

<edit> I am trying to see where I said that. I am not succeeding. Are you asking me to defend something I didn't say? cn
 
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